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Hey. It's Private Simmons, and I'm back from my self-imposed exile. I have a question for you. Why do you think that so many games look so good in the planning stages, then come out badly? Fable is an example. It wasn't a bad game, but think about it. Peter Molyneux said that you would be able to free roam, have long conversations, and do other wonderful things. It was going to be like a real-time, mideival KOTOR. What went wrong?


My personal opinion of why these things happen: Sometimes, you have a really good idea, right? But then, you have to compromise in order to make ends meet. I mean, It's great if you can fly a hovercraft, but if it's only usable for a third of one level, and not in multiplayer, wouldn't you want to take that out and put something else in?

Another big problem: Time itself. If you can't meet a deadline, then you're probably going to have to take things out to get the game out on time. For instance, Halo 2 had some things that were probably taken out during crunch time.

Numero tres: Producers. If the producer says that they don't like it, you can't have it. If the producer says that you have to make a deadline, you have to make it.


What do you guys think? I value your opinions very much. (This does not go for Texas Ben.)

  • 12.30.2004 8:32 AM PDT
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I'm sorry but Halo 2 is the best game ever made by far. Anyone that was disappointed by is has no taste in games.

  • 12.30.2004 8:38 AM PDT
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euch, i still prefer combat evolved

  • 12.30.2004 8:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: madcow2021
I'm sorry but Halo 2 is the best game ever made by far. Anyone that was disappointed by is has no taste in games.




Let me clarify, Cow. Halo 2 to is my favorite game to date. If anyone thinks otherwise, I will sick my Tri'Xeem on them. I'm just saying that there was a whole lot of hype surrounding it, and some people seem to think that it didn't make it out alive.

  • 12.30.2004 8:45 AM PDT
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  • 12.30.2004 9:51 AM PDT

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Yeah, why don't you like Texas Ben...Well anyway, Enter the Matrix was a horribly hyped game, and then it sucked. And actually, Halo 2 was developed almost completely after the E3 New Mombasa demo. So they had to cut a lot.

  • 12.30.2004 10:11 AM PDT
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HALO 2 greatest game ever made (besides contra im sorry but i love that game) the only thing wrong with it is that ts isnt at all in depth to the story line its like a whole diff game but same name and characters. and we are gonna have to wait like 2 more years for h3 to come out, but XBL and the kik bootay muliplayer modes should hold me over.

  • 12.30.2004 10:53 AM PDT
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did anyone play panzer dragoon orta? that game was great and never got the attention it deserved

  • 12.30.2004 11:26 AM PDT

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Posted by: madcoconut
did anyone play panzer dragoon orta? that game was great and never got the attention it deserved


Same with Otogi and Metal Arms: Glitch in the system.

  • 12.30.2004 11:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: Xeroh
Posted by: madcoconut
did anyone play panzer dragoon orta? that game was great and never got the attention it deserved

I couldent beat a boss there, I forgot, but he had a bird.
Freaking hard. But cool.

i got a little confused near the end of the game, weird acid trip dream sequence stuff. it was weird but just so cool

  • 12.30.2004 11:32 AM PDT
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The games that are all hyped up are the ones that spend most on advertizing, not necesarely the best.

  • 12.30.2004 11:42 AM PDT
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I also agree that alot of stuff was taken out due to the release date for Halo 2. Mainly the story, and I'm hoping a few options in multiplayer*wink, wink*. But this is why Halo 2.5 is coming...if you don't know about this by now you are a complete and total NON Halo fan/gamer/nerd.

  • 12.30.2004 1:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: flamechu
I also agree that alot of stuff was taken out due to the release date for Halo 2. Mainly the story, and I'm hoping a few options in multiplayer*wink, wink*. But this is why Halo 2.5 is coming...if you don't know about this by now you are a complete and total NON Halo fan/gamer/nerd.

Frankie said no Halo 2.5 I heard...and until Bungie announces it I won't believe it

[Edited on 12/30/2004 1:26:43 PM]

  • 12.30.2004 1:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: flamechu
I also agree that alot of stuff was taken out due to the release date for Halo 2. Mainly the story, and I'm hoping a few options in multiplayer*wink, wink*. But this is why Halo 2.5 is coming...if you don't know about this by now you are a complete and total NON Halo fan/gamer/nerd.

Frankie said no Halo 2.5 I heard...and until Bungie announces it I won't believe it


Well guess what, he hasn't said -blam!- yet. If so, give us a damn link. Oh wait, you can't cause hasn't said anything yet.

  • 12.30.2004 1:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: flamechu
Posted by: Kroenen
Posted by: flamechu
I also agree that alot of stuff was taken out due to the release date for Halo 2. Mainly the story, and I'm hoping a few options in multiplayer*wink, wink*. But this is why Halo 2.5 is coming...if you don't know about this by now you are a complete and total NON Halo fan/gamer/nerd.

Frankie said no Halo 2.5 I heard...and until Bungie announces it I won't believe it


Well guess what, he hasn't said -blam!- yet. If so, give us a damn link. Oh wait, you can't cause hasn't said anything yet.


Exactly, Flamechu. He hasen't said anything. That's exactly why you can't trust those rumors.

  • 12.30.2004 1:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: flamechu
I also agree that alot of stuff was taken out due to the release date for Halo 2. Mainly the story, and I'm hoping a few options in multiplayer*wink, wink*. But this is why Halo 2.5 is coming...if you don't know about this by now you are a complete and total NON Halo fan/gamer/nerd.


Because Team Xbox says so? Nah, I don't believe it. I think that Bungie would rather develop an entire new game than rehash an old one.**

Of course, there must be a lot of MS pressure to get a game out at launch.



**Unless it's Marathon.

  • 12.30.2004 2:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: ParamitePie
euch, i still prefer combat evolved


Why is everyone obsessed with pie?

I like Halo better than Halo 2, not that it is bad, just my opinion.

  • 12.30.2004 2:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: Private Simmons
Posted by: madcow2021
I'm sorry but Halo 2 is the best game ever made by far. Anyone that was disappointed by is has no taste in games.




Let me clarify, Cow. Halo 2 to is my favorite game to date. If anyone thinks otherwise, I will sick my Tri'Xeem on them. I'm just saying that there was a whole lot of hype surrounding it, and some people seem to think that it didn't make it out alive.


i beg to differ.
as amazingly amazing as halo 2 is, you can NOT, i repeat, can NOT beat the worms series!
(except worms blast that was a peice of crap, they took that game where you bounce the ball on a platform to break all the tiles above and they replaced the platform with a worm)

cant wait 'till i get my grubby little hands on worms: forts under seige

[Edited on 12/30/2004 2:11:55 PM]

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