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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update 12/21/07

I'm thinking the flares and radar jammers were taken out to prevent people from double jumping.

  • 12.21.2007 10:57 PM PDT
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you named it "Zanzibar" and not "Last Resort"

  • 12.21.2007 10:58 PM PDT
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No melee mention and only promise is more expensive crap maps like the Heroic pack? BACK TO COD4!

  • 12.21.2007 11:13 PM PDT

Have a fantastic holiday, Frankie; you and the rest of the Bungie folk.

lulz spechul franky tiem

  • 12.21.2007 11:28 PM PDT

Halo: CE > > Halo 3 > Halo: Reach = Halo 2

Speaking of Halo 3 MP splitscreen... It would be appreciated, BUNGIE, if you could make the singlescreen Field of View (FOV) the same as it is for splitscreen. 90 degrees, that is, for singlescreen widescreen.

Halo 3's splitscreen FOV is around 90 degrees for both widescreen 16:9 and standardscreen 4:3 TV's. The singlescreens FOV is 70 degrees for widescreen, and a ridiculously low 55 degrees for standard screen.

And while i'm ranting, please give us some more hope/update on the hopeful retooling of the melee system.

  • 12.21.2007 11:32 PM PDT
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I'm thinking the flares and radar jammers were taken out to prevent people from double jumping.

I agree.

Edit: Also, the melee system obviously does not work the way it was intended to with any lag at all, so why not just go back to the halo 2 system where melees are randomly decided if they actually happen at the same time.

[Edited on 12.21.2007 11:37 PM PST]

  • 12.21.2007 11:34 PM PDT

It seems we have guests!

Santa can I haz recon?
lol
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!

  • 12.21.2007 11:37 PM PDT

funny how he said "Zanzibar" and not "Last Resort"

  • 12.21.2007 11:46 PM PDT

Reach!

See you suckas next year!! New maps again sweet keep 'em coming.. I love the new maps!!

  • 12.22.2007 12:58 AM PDT

Halo: CE > > Halo 3 > Halo: Reach = Halo 2

Posted by: FearMeSoon
I'm thinking the flares and radar jammers were taken out to prevent people from double jumping.


Or maybe because radar jammers are rather pointless when there is no enemy radar in TH.

  • 12.22.2007 1:24 AM PDT

Frankie - I live outside of AC... Let me buy you a beer!

In return I has flaming head goodness?

But if not, than let me buy you a beer anyway...

[Edited on 12.22.2007 1:55 AM PST]

  • 12.22.2007 1:51 AM PDT

*I sense a disturbance in the forum*
Jaws on Zanzibar?
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what the -blam!-?

the maulers are such great weapons

why remove/replace/relocate them?

on construct they played a vital role in taking over the rocket launcher

  • 12.22.2007 1:59 AM PDT

Lasered

Damn, no Laser on Snowbound for HC.
The rest looks great tho. Thank god for the removal of the shotty on snowboaund.

  • 12.22.2007 2:05 AM PDT

Tanks on BTB will indubitably be a lot of fun, for the driver who first gets a killing spree and for the guy with the laser who gets a killjoy!

I still like to see a map that spawn with a gauss, a hornet or a prowler or all that other cool stuff that isn't in matchmaking right now!!

That's just my philosophy, to have as much toys to play with as possible. I don't mind that you made Mauler less present but imo the total removal is wrong, like with the equipment. The more stuff there is the richer the experience.

Anyway Happy Xmas, Hannukah, or whatever floats your boat.

  • 12.22.2007 3:58 AM PDT

anyone know what Frankie's favourite map is ?

  • 12.22.2007 4:48 AM PDT
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Alkaline Prodigy contributed to the creation of the map and gametype.

Ha,ha. AP is making maps now ? My gosh, I know that little jerk. Much props Prodidy. My eyes are rollin a little, but still, good to see you doing some good for the Bungie. jeez..... What's next ? Chain him up and see what else his crazy ass can come up with. Cool, cool,cool.

  • 12.22.2007 4:57 AM PDT
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  • 12.22.2007 5:20 AM PDT

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  • 12.22.2007 5:57 AM PDT
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That snowbound shotgun thing makes me feel like a camper.... I wasn't camping, i was pasing back and forth between the bases...... Patroling? Ooh well. Shotty, Miss thee i shall. :'(

  • 12.22.2007 5:59 AM PDT
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u guys liek destoryed my 2 fav maps snowbound and epitah theres no more of my fav weps there sow ats the point of playign there if theres no mroe good wepions y wouldnt u take he rocket out too?? the rockest to stong but u take the mauler and hammer out??

  • 12.22.2007 6:24 AM PDT

FIRST OF ALL---- Atlantic City's COLD right now.... sorry frankie lol.

2- Was the entire update focused on removing/severely limiting maulers? It just seems like everyone's picking on these weapons lol....

3- i like how the sword replaced the hammer on guardian--- it'll definitely balance things out a lil bit. Perhaps now the sword and snipey should switch spots? that would definately even it out a lil more.

4- Removing shotty on Snowbound? Good idea. Removing the Splazer? not so good. Now the ghost has even more of an advantage-- which will probably STILL keep everyone on the bottom. As for the Beam Rifle being on the bottom-- everyone's just gonna camp behind shield doors still. And of course, make the 2 for 1 acheivement nearly impossible lol. Balancing out OverShields was a good idea, too.

5- As for Zanzibar--- err, Last Resort..... Why remove ALL the equipment? j/w.....

6- Good idea replacing Camo w/ OS on Narrows... now the bases are equal lol

7- I guess you guys thought the radar jammer, flares, and regenerators were pointless? bubbles just promote camping..... especially w/ a shotgun/sword. Atleast the Radar Jammer/ Flare could get you enough time to distract a camping party.... now there is NO hope. lol go ahead.... throw down a bubble. i garauntee you'll be stripped of your bubble, or get torn apart as soon as it pops.

8- No Hammer on Epitaph? couldn't it have been replaced with a MAULER? You know, the gun you can nearly only use in campaign anymore....

OVERALL, i think this isn't the BEST update, and there were alot of unnecessary changes, but.... wait---- besides the sword on guardian and removal of shotty on snowbound, it sucks! I mean, damn! i dont usually -blam!- about the updates, but.... it just seems like soon its' just gonna be AR / Bubble games soon.....

  • 12.22.2007 6:38 AM PDT
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I'm going to complain...

Oh, maulers are too strong....then why don't we take out the rocket launchers, sniper rifles, shotguns, and lazers? Mauler was a good hope against the shotgun and hammer people on Guardian, especially when they wouldn't go out into the open. Now it just makes controlling those weapons even more crucial. Meaning, if you get a bad spawn and can't get to the shotgun/hammer, or if they keep getting better respawns than you to have access to those weapons, well, the mauler helped that issue a little.

Taking the shotgun out Snowbound is also a bad move. Ok, so you promote people not to camp in the bottom...then take out the sniper rifle so people can't camp on the edge of the map with it. It's easy enough to take out a guy with a shotgun down in the bottom "bunkers," but almost impossible to get a jump on a sniper that has a good position out in the open. Down in the bottom, you can chuck nades and flank...a sniper, good luck with that.

A good point already brought up with the lazer bein taken out...the ghost is already rediculous to take out as it is.

While the maps, when they came out, might not have been perfectly balanced, people got used to them and learned how to play with them and counter other people's camping attempts. By stripping other items, more power is given to the already powerful power weapons. Meaning, your attempts to balance the game is making it more unbalanced.


I think time needs to be taken to fix the problems with the game that apparently didn't get past beta testing instead of focusing on DLC ($$) and screwing with items.

[Edited on 12.22.2007 6:59 AM PST]

  • 12.22.2007 6:58 AM PDT

there's bullet holes where my compassion used to be...
and there is violence in my heart.

I have to agree- the maulers really helped balance the maps, in my opinion... You can take 3 shots from a mauler if you're at a good enough distance before it's over- it just teaches you not to rush in for the melee as the dude may have a mauler waiting for you when you get there- but now, it's an SMG on Epitaph?!
That sucks... :( May have well replaced it with the pistol- another worthless weapon.

I used to love Epitaph in Rumble Pit, but now cringe when it comes up...

I also agree about the lazer/ghost situation on snowbound, what do we have to counter the ghost (that can no longer be easily exploded by shooting the gas tank)??

Please bring back the maulers at the very least.... and if anything, make the human pistol shoot faster! :)

  • 12.22.2007 7:11 AM PDT

"When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." -Reiner Knizia

I personally think Bungie caved to the people who whine on the forums (like I'm doing, now). The flare was a fun, useful tool. Now gone. The maulers can be defeated if you play smart. Now gone or reduced. The hammer is annoying, but you can defeat it most of the time...reducing the spawn rate to the longest possible would have been better. The radar jammer was also a useful tool. Now gone.

Bungie, it would seem you're eliminating the things that make Halo 3 unique from Halo 2. If we had wanted to keep playing with BR's and SMG's we would have stayed on Halo 2 and just demanded more maps.

Also, I find it annoying and interesting that you never use one of the coolest things in H3, the incendiary grenade. Slap them on the maps! (Sorry, "please?") You could have 30 second respawns, and only two pair on the map. It would add some interesting and fun game play.

  • 12.22.2007 7:41 AM PDT
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I have to agree with the coulple of last posts about the maulers ... but taking away the shotguns from some of the maps and the seeming removal of shotty snipers has made me consider playing on something else now ... such as ... well i dont know maybe even my wii .. or going back to my halo 1 on my comp ... which they cant take away my precious shotgun ... anyways thanks bunjie for the great game this year and i along with many millions of gamers wish to see another sequel in the next couple of years ... (maybie on the next x-box ... the 720...)
and keep away from plastaion will you ... plz

[Edited on 12.22.2007 7:53 AM PST]

  • 12.22.2007 7:53 AM PDT