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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update 12/21/07
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Can you believe it?

Thanks Bungie its been a great and fun year.

  • 12.22.2007 5:25 PM PDT
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Maulers were a balancer, their soul purpose was to balance out the power weapons in the game, its been said in this post a number of times that removing this gives more power to the power weapons, and personally I get tired of being called a Power Weapon whore because of the lack of balance already... Increasing the respawn time was an excelent idea, many of the Maulers respawned way too fast, and definately had 6 or so on the maps at any given time, exspecially Guardian, however, it also prevented the whoring of other weapons.

Bunjie, I love you guys to death, however, have you ever heard of the term "Testing the Water", or "Subtile Changes" or Adjustments... Every time you make an update you always tend to go overboard, try testing it by making small changes IE slightly increasing the power or firing speed of the handgun, or try lowering the spawn rates of weapons on the maps before completely removing them, or try removing them from one map instead of all of them...

I don't really play THC so I don't have an opinion about those changes...

I read allot of complaints about the map shuffling, and I have to agree, some changes could be made, the different types of maps coming up so often isn't due to the shuffler, its due to the lack of other maps, and varrients in that gametype, consider this, other maps could be added to those types which would lower the complaints, IE: Social Slayer allows 10 people, thats plenty for the Desert map, who's name slips my mind right now... anyways, that would help... and an alternative big team battle of some type would help as well, personally, I liked having 12 people in BTB, it wasn't overly crowded for Introverts, and the like, but hey, I can see how others would prefer the alternative...

Anyways, the biggest thing is this, I know you don't want to Revive the Maulers, however they are a balancing agent that is desperately needed, Compromising is awesome... please don't give into the whiners that can't handle playing against difficult scenarios, and if your'e one of them.... GROW UP!

  • 12.22.2007 6:52 PM PDT

"oh bother" said Winne The Pooh as he chambered another round.

THIS ROCKS! I love Bungie for taking everybodies advice on things instead of blowing us off. Taking out most of the maulers is great I get tired of having multiple shotguns on guardian and narrows and other maps. I'm going to miss the spartan lazer and shotgun on snowbound but I'm sure it'll all work out and we'll love Halo 3 even more after this:P However I'm gonna miss the flare on guardian. I liked that thing but thanks again Bungie this rocks can't wait to see all of the new DLC. Merry Christmas Everybody and a Happy new year with lots of crab legs.

P.S. Bungie remind me to send you all Christmas presents of little ceasars gift cards.

  • 12.22.2007 7:34 PM PDT
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Hey, i keep hearing DLC, what does that stand for?
also, about new maps coming out, "Returning Classics demanded by the fans", does that mean H2 maps? If so, im sure the number one will be Lockout, and if not, there needs to be. This may be halo 3, but sometimes i just need a little lockout. Don't we all?

  • 12.22.2007 7:54 PM PDT

Don't cheat... it just makes you look like a loser.

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happy holidays everyone, but its not Zanzibar any more, is it?

  • 12.22.2007 9:07 PM PDT

I LOVE YOU BUNGIE!!!!

"shotgun camping in Snowbound has been eliminated along with the shotgun itself."

WOOOOOOOO!!!!!

  • 12.22.2007 9:33 PM PDT

lol at Zanzibar. :D

  • 12.22.2007 9:37 PM PDT
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Please be Sidewinder!

POD

Ring a bell, Frankie?
You know what I'm talking about. ;-)

  • 12.22.2007 9:58 PM PDT
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taking maulers out may have stopped the campers but it also left a gap on the smaller maps, have you noticed that a team with shotgun and grav hammer can take over guardian quickly? theres nothing to counter them, and Ive been victim to mauler abuse but Ive also noticed when it comes to hammer or shotgun counter them, and until the bug of meleeing first only to die also dampens its affects. In my opinion there should only be one to two on a map and less ammo with a bigger reload time so it be more evend out. It takes a shot melee to kill or two at times, but shotgun, sword and hammer up close is one shot, other things but what I dont get is why not just counter it with a ranged weapon? even normal shotgun has a longer reach. Like I said ive gotten kicked down by them too but who hears been taken down by magnums? The plasma pistol its self has two uses, knocking shield or vehicles out, it also has a fast rate of fire, while magnums our powerful and slow, no offense to bungie there useless alone and have little impact with a dual as well (except things like plasma pistol sheild take down) Id be happy if the magnum was strong and faster like halo 2 but then it be yelled at like the mauler so it could lose accuracy the faster you fire or somthing or make it non dual wielded. Please dont flame me these are just things I noticed.

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  • 12.22.2007 10:53 PM PDT
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"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

Sounds pretty cool. Merry Christmas Bungie, and a happy New Year!

2007 has been a great year!






  • 12.23.2007 12:40 AM PDT

Check it when i spit it, Lick it how i writ it

thank god the maulers are being taken out of maps...hopefully a patch is in the works that will balance it out...i'm sure they're making one to release all at once...Bungie kicks ass for listening to fans...happy holidays

  • 12.23.2007 12:58 AM PDT
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Bungie, dont take all these thankyous as a pat on the back . Taking out all the maulers hardly solves anything, and its a pretty shotty way of trying to fix a problem. I highly doubt that if u find out ur techniques arent working, and your changes aren't for the better, you will change it back. i think the maps will just keep being whittled down to battle rifles and ars. Taking out the power weapons does make it more even, but just more like hardcore, but thats what hardcore is for, for those MLG fools. If a team cant pull it together enough to get those weapons and use them efficiently, why make it easier on them?

For example, What are you're reasons for taking out the laser on snowbound, is there a direct correlation between which team starts on the laser side and who wins? I doubt it. Also, how in the hell are we supposed to take out the ghost now, plasmas? We all know how hard it it to stick a moving ghost, while its shooting at you and trying to splatter you, and even if u do, now they don't even blow up the ghost! And with a ghost controlling the top, its just gonna force the people back underneath like before, because 90 % of all games played underneath isn't enough. Plus, isn't a sniper on one side only a little uneven too, im sure you'll realize that mistake of yours too.

Its all a part of the game, and people who just keep running through the shield doors with a shotgunner on the other side need to stop complaining and get smarter about it. The only people who are complaining about the way things are are the bad kids that go -10 every game. I guarantee you the better team will always win , not the ones who get to the shotty first. I mean, honestly, get grown!!



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  • 12.23.2007 3:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: fastmatt
what the -blam!-?

the maulers are such great weapons

why remove/replace/relocate them?

on construct they played a vital role in taking over the rocket launcher




WTF!?

Theres no rocket on construct?!

  • 12.23.2007 3:34 AM PDT

Why were the flares and radar jammers removed? Those things were incredibly usefull (especially on Last Resort and Narrows).

What's "issue #1"?

  • 12.23.2007 3:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: draco814
u guys liek destoryed my 2 fav maps snowbound and epitah theres no more of my fav weps there sow ats the point of playign there if theres no mroe good wepions y wouldnt u take he rocket out too?? the rockest to stong but u take the mauler and hammer out??


This guy can't speak for -Blam!-, buy i agree with him, i would atleast like to know what bungie is thinking, if they are at all.

  • 12.23.2007 3:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: Daverian
A good point already brought up with the lazer bein taken out...the ghost is already rediculous to take out as it is.

Bet u anything they'll try to fix the ghost problem by removing it completely. They'll probably replace it with a mongoose.

I can just see them now....

"hey, what are we gonna do now that we removed the laser on snowbound?"

-"I don't know, we can't put it back, or we'll look stupid, we cant let anyone know that"

"Um, what if we just take out the ghost completely?"

-"yeah, then it'll be fair"


  • 12.23.2007 3:49 AM PDT

Those who die, will live,
those who live, will die

Posted by: fwr91
awesome :) can't wait to see what map you're talking about! it's gotta be sidewinder or bloodgulch! either way, it'll be awesome.

EDIT: guys, stop saying "zomgggg first page LOLZ" and stuff like that. nobody cares that you're on the first page. put some good input into the forum don't just go around bragging about how you got onto the first page. i can't begin to describe how annoying it is to go into the forum and have all of the first page just filled with "first page woot", etc. etc. just stop. you're dumb.


Totally agree, 90% of people who see someone write '1st page or 1st post zomg getting aroused now!!11!!!' usually think of you as the 12 year old kid who screams down the mic when he gets a double kill, around 50% of those just mute your gamertag on xbox live because they never want to be near you. The other 10% are the people who actually say 'zomg i got 1st page' and start a debate about who gets first post.

Anyway, on topic; Can't wait for the new maps, hope blood gulch will be one of them, and can you also add a human variant of valhalla and sandtrap? with scorpions and hornets, I still miss the scorpion fun people had in halo 2 with containment...

  • 12.23.2007 3:54 AM PDT
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Posted by: Filthy_DB
my hope is sidewinder


wow wow wow, what was sidewinder, i played plenty of halo 2 and i dont remember sidewinder. someone refresh my memory.

  • 12.23.2007 4:01 AM PDT
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I love the fact that the maulers were changed...not a big fan of them i personally feel they are a noob combo.....the only thing I didnt care for was the BR changes in Snowbound.....i prefer BR's over Carbines any day.....but i cant wait to play the new playlist when i get back online.....But thank you angain bungie for doin something about the maulers.

  • 12.23.2007 5:04 AM PDT
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sidewinder i believe (dont quote me because i havent played halo 2 in awhile) is actually in halo 1....it was the icy snow map that was huge....it had a tank or two and a bunch of teleporters

  • 12.23.2007 5:06 AM PDT

Posted by: Achronos
I blame stosh.


Proud tester of the Halo 3 beta.

its called Last resort, not Zanzibar anymore..

  • 12.23.2007 7:46 AM PDT

This, is the way the world ends.

Anybody else notice that half the Halo 3 Player avatars in this discussion have katanas on their back. 50/50 Achievements FTW!

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  • 12.23.2007 8:26 AM PDT
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Yes no more shotgun mauler camping -blam!-s

  • 12.23.2007 8:31 AM PDT

The famine has ended.
MLG Playlist is begun.

What we want is still a pure MLG gametype playlist, like the Halo 2 hardcore. Having BR starts and no motion tracker is all Bungie did right. The biggest and move obvious thing to do next, is TAKE VALHALLA OUT OF HARDCORE!!!

  • 12.23.2007 9:32 AM PDT

side winder was the multi player snow level in halo ce, as far as fav clasics, we don't need lockout, guardian is no lockout but is similar in ways, we don't need a blood gultch, because valhala in my opinion is the new blood gultch, what we do need is a midship remake and a wizard remake.

  • 12.23.2007 11:34 AM PDT