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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update 12/21/07
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PLEASE, They are only removing the maulers on team Hardcore, So what does it matter anyway!

I heard something about the new maps coming out... Tomorrow, for free... Can anyone second that theory?

[Edited on 12.25.2007 9:52 PM PST]

  • 12.25.2007 9:51 PM PDT
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I feel the same way I like the maulers but they dont really stand a chance if you see someone coming. Why dont you get rid of some of the battle rifles. It seems I find more of them than any other weapon. Getting someone unexpectedly is about the only way you get kills with it. Rushing in on someone that doenst know you have it.

  • 12.26.2007 6:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: CounterParrot
I personally wish they had kept those changes isolated to the hardcore playlist only, but... I guess I'm the minority in this case.

Same here,dont like the new changes, i miss the mauler :'(, i wish it was limeted to hardcore 2

  • 12.26.2007 10:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: staphan
And of course, no word on Team SWAT...
you said it bro

[Edited on 12.26.2007 11:00 AM PST]

  • 12.26.2007 10:59 AM PDT
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Bungie, awesome job on H3, great stuff, im probably gunna get blacklisted for this, but i just need to voice out some probs ive been hearing about

Campain probs
Not nearly long enough
level 8 cortana, not that fun
2 lazers on the same level within 1 min of each other in only 1 level other words needs more lazer and maulers 2
want to see Johns face, and what the hell does Gravemind look like
thats it for caimpain

Normal matchmaking (not hard core)

LACK OF MAULERS WTF WAS THAT ABOUT
team control but not swat, seriosly does any one really like territories?
respawns, need i say more
Lack of equipment, i miss the old flare
Why no sentinal beams, fuelrods, flame grenades?
No hornets
i THINK thats it

Hard Core

removall of lazer
Mongoose ??? wtf were u thinking
epitaph no hammer
snowbound, no brs, no shotgun, beem rifle in dumbass place
pit, already a bland map, dont make it worse with the lack of regenerators, buble sheilds are good, but pd goes right throgh them, needs a regen to counter

I am probly gettin blacklisted, but i need to say these things to help u improve not to complain, plz switch it back in 08' k?

love OBLIVION1219

  • 12.26.2007 11:32 AM PDT
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last one i promise, ppl who get an early lead then comit suicide, mainly in doubles.

  • 12.26.2007 12:15 PM PDT

GT: Ginger Viking think u can beat me?

Theres a typo "Zanzibar" is in fact Last Resort in Halo 3, unless i am mistaken. (Check the details for the map changes)

  • 12.26.2007 12:26 PM PDT
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Its a good start, well done!

And I noticed you never said Christmas. Guess you've gotta stay politically 'correct', eh? Bummer.

  • 12.26.2007 4:07 PM PDT
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Why so much hate for the mauler? Its cheap? Then why not remove the sword, its far cheaper and more prevalently camped on.

  • 12.26.2007 4:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: Convict 4 Ever1
u stupid boob most of the changes were related to team hardcore for example the shot gun & lazer were removed out of harcore u stupid boob learn to read if u dont like the changes go play team slayer not hardcore ...f.y.i ghost in hardcore is changed to a mongoose...noob..


This guys a jerk huh?

  • 12.26.2007 4:34 PM PDT
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Screw you Bungie for taking my Maulers! I loved the SMG/Mauler combo on Guardian. I'm buying COD4 with my Christmas money.

  • 12.26.2007 5:43 PM PDT

Agreed! You -blam!-s took out the best part!

Plus you're saying there's no chance whatsoever to play on the old maps in matchmaking? That's retarded.

Maybe I'll get COD4 too. At least it doesn't get torn apart...

  • 12.26.2007 7:11 PM PDT

My last thread: Why Reach Sucks

<3 Foman

When MLG makes a change they include a simple explanation beside it. Everything they do is well thought out and chronicled. Bungie has no idea what a competitive gametype is and is obviously shooting in the dark. Team Hardcore is a joke. Fix it like we've said countless times on the forums.

  • 12.27.2007 7:41 AM PDT
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BRING BACK BEING ABLE TO TALK TO THE OTHER TEAM IN RANKED GAMES

  • 12.27.2007 8:46 AM PDT
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I don't get why everyone cries about the mauler. It's a close range weapon = stay away from people that have it. The shotgun is close range, and I don't hear people crying about that. You can even tell when someone has the mauler (an orange glow).

I'm tired of hearing people complaining about how overpowered the mauler is, and how it is such a noob weapon and how mauler camping is cheap, and blah blah.

If maulers are overpowered, then I want to see the removal of swords, rocket launchers, sniper rifles, spartan lazers, shotguns, hammers, and melee from the game.

Maulers need no fixing. Yes, some people can camp around corners with them, but I'd much rather fight a camping mauler guy than a camping sniper guy. And with how easy it is to no-scope with the sniper now-a-days, I would take on a mauler guy with a sniper rifle in close range, or in far range, any day.


and no, the changes don't affect just hardcore, but other matchmaking as well. Maybe some of the updates only affect hardcore, but not all of them. If bungie wants to start screwing around with the weapon types and what's on the map, it's cool to do that as long as they make a new game type (what I see hardcore as), but they have screwed with the regular ranked matches, and that's what I'm complaining about.

[Edited on 12.27.2007 9:16 AM PST]

  • 12.27.2007 9:12 AM PDT

Its Mistaa that is going to take over Xbox Live!

ok when is the team snipers lobby coming, and when you play team snipers why do you have as secondary wepon a magnum and nod a beamrifle?,

and why isnt there any more team swat thats the best game typ every shooting with a br or a carbean and magnums, bam head -blam!- you b!tch

[Edited on 12.27.2007 10:41 AM PST]

  • 12.27.2007 10:35 AM PDT
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one question, do these balancing changes affect local or custom map play?

(like if you just load the map in a custom, nonmatchmaking game, does it use the default settings or the bungie-tweaked settings)

  • 12.27.2007 11:43 AM PDT
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bungie keeps dodging the real issues and making pitiful changes to make it look like they are actually doing something. It's obvious though that none of the weapon changes were thought out and were thrown in there to make it look like they are actually interested in something other than making DLC for $$$. Hey bungie, make some real changes and fix the problems that exist: Fix melee, fix the problems with the ranking system, add some team swat along with some other options that should have been in the launch, tone down the the host advantage/lag issues, and make every weapon available in every forge map.

[Edited on 12.27.2007 1:13 PM PST]

  • 12.27.2007 1:09 PM PDT
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I don't understand why Bungie feels the need to strip their maps down... It was the diversity of the weapons/equipment that makes it so fun and different every game... Why pander to those who can't/won't take the time to play smart? Maulers are not that hard to deal with, and in fact are one of my favorite weapons... (even without camping in corners), and is a great way to deal with swords/shottys/hammers. Equipment being taken out? whats wrong with it? is it truly broken? or are there just enough people who are too lazy to strategize and take the time to deal with these things properly? I don't view this as a fix at all, I actually see this as a step backwards... Someone in an earlier post stated that if we keep moving in this direction, essentially we will end up with Halo 2... BR's and AR's and not much else... and I really have to agree... I'm sure it is easier and less time consuming to "just take them out of the maps" but in the long run would be much better to deal with the issues surrounding them.... make the respawn longer.... tone them down a tad.... etc. I understand that maybe as far as timelines and deadlines this decision has been made so that Bungie can focus on upcoming DLC.. but this just means that the Maulers/Equipment may not make an appearance in those maps either... I guess to sum it up, it was a poor decision based on the whining of poor players.

  • 12.27.2007 4:10 PM PDT

yeah agreed with the typo for zanzibar

  • 12.27.2007 7:23 PM PDT
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the dude that was whineing about the people saying first page, like its going to stop because you said that, its been that way since the beginning of message boards, you must be new to forums, welcome

  • 12.27.2007 9:07 PM PDT
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bungie is really not thinking straight on this..indeed mauler camping nd shot gun camping is "cheap" yet effective buh its easily avoidable its all abt strategy nd how 2 encounter ur opponents yet many people are uncapable having a game plan..instead they just run rambo nd get shot up hence it is the maulers fault...now the mauler is like basically off every damn map sameways to half of the equipment ...this is halo 3..not halo 2...as one guy sed in this thread we are goin 2 just end up BR's nd AR's...nd i dont think thats quite fun...like increase spawn times on the mauler, or make it a power weapon that every1 tries 2 seek on a map..i kno mlg maps use the mauler as a powe weapon on der maps so it cud be possible 2 make a mauler a power weapon...not just take it out completely...also wat was the point in creating a 4th grenade...for no reason ? right ? fuel rod cannon ? no reason right ? hornet ...it is indeed a tad strong buh can easily be destroyed by a spartan laser or missile pod cuz it cant evn move that fast...yes bungie is working on their new DLC blah blah buh u just cant make stupid decisiions ...lazer bein taken out of snowbound is only for hardcore nd so for the abscence of the ghost in tha map wud make sense...*the lazer is on for normal team slayer* ...melee system...gotta used 2 it..evn tho halo 2's was much more fair than this stupid who ever has got more health moves on ....so all in all bungie has shown a lack of initiative to help their maps thus creating them 2 desttroy their maps by taking out everything completely...radar jammers...i thot was useless relaly...buh flare was quite useful in screwing with the opposite team.. ie on guardian the opposing team is setting base @ the orange lift.. by throwing a flare in 2 where they are they do not have wear abouts of who is aroudn them thus the sniper can place well aimed shots nd cover fire for a invasion...ahh buh who am i 2 talk ? right ? it was indeed a poor decision by bungie based on noobs playin halo 3...COD4 ? seems pretty nice at the moment...

  • 12.28.2007 8:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: SikeTFA
Posted by: kiuft
@Longball: I believe BR starts are just for Team Hardcore, everything else should stay AR start.

'Fraid not, they added the BR as a starting weapon for most BTB levels, which is unbelievably lame... I miss being able to get to the power weapons with little more than a few assault weapons firing, but to be completely assaulted by BR fire was crazy the first map I played since the update...


Sorry, my mistake. I've been RROD'd since the 11th (didn't even get to try the new maps :( ) so I did not realize they have included BR starts in other gametypes.

@everyone else: The only problem with the Mauler is that there's far too many of them laying around...Bungie didn't take them out because they're imbalanced, rather because there's 22912 on the map at once. The respawn times needed to be adjusted (which they did), and the amount for map default needed to be adjusted (which they did)...so I don't really see the problem. Keep in mind I still haven't been able to play at all so I don't know the extent of too many of these changes, but it sounds like a good and much needed updated.

Should be getting my Xbox back early next week :D

***edit: I've really missed having the flare on Guardian. It was a really nice way to re-take the Sniper tower with no power weapons to help you do so. I noticed that for a long time it's been off the map...in Doubles at least.

[Edited on 12.28.2007 8:26 AM PST]

  • 12.28.2007 8:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: Deception117
Agreed! You -blam!-s took out the best part!

Plus you're saying there's no chance whatsoever to play on the old maps in matchmaking? That's retarded.

Maybe I'll get COD4 too. At least it doesn't get torn apart...
dude, With these map changes, im going back to mario world, i think ill trade my xbox for a wii, cuz they dont screw things up. ill keep checking bungie if they change it back tho, cya halo 3 players, was nc knowing ya

  • 12.28.2007 10:27 AM PDT
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Hey everyone.... i didnt know where to put this but, i just played a double team match and the guys my friend and I where playing with were kinda cheaters cuz they killed us once and started jumping off the map "Construct" and they won just because of that.
THATS NOT FAIR! I hope that someone can see this reply and change suicide to -1 instead of 0 PLEASEEEEEEEEEE!


MemoaLvaRez

  • 12.28.2007 6:33 PM PDT