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Subject: Colored text for members (the old days)
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And the Shadow fell upon the Land, and the World was riven stone from stone. The oceans fled, and the mountains were swallowed up, and the nations were scattered to the eight corners of the World. The moon was blood, and the sun was as ashes. The seas boiled, and the living envied the dead. All was shattered, and all but memory lost, and one memory above all others, of him who brought the Shadow and the Breaking of the World. And him they named Dragon.

Posted by: x Foman123 x
No! Please, God! I am extremely against this idea.


I'm with Foman.

  • 12.23.2007 11:44 AM PDT
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People would be making very fruity threads with fruity responses if we all had colored text. That would be very fruity.

  • 12.23.2007 12:34 PM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Posted by: Fuzzy OneThree
Sorry to be so CYNICAL, but the forums would be filled with rainbow text.

EDIT: I found the word! CYNICAL!

Its incredibly tedious to make rainbow text, it wouldn't last for long. Can you imagine putting [color=*][/color] on every character? It would take 3 times longer to post.

I personally support this, since it really cannot be abused in any way.

Posted by: Duardo
I think it would be okay, so long as it's not too annoying. Although it might make threads look bad visually.

...I bet someone is going to elitism...just watch...

Throwing elitism aside, I think colored text would help thread posting, simply because you can use color to create hierarchy within a post, say for listing or links, etc. I do it all the time when I am on other forums to keep things organized.

  • 12.23.2007 1:34 PM PDT
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"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."

After thinking about it; no, I do not think it would be a good idea. Reason being? Because th Ninja's and Bungie employees have colored font. It distinguishes them from us. If colors were "given back," nothing would distinguish them form us.

  • 12.23.2007 2:35 PM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Posted by: Duardo
After thinking about it; no, I do not think it would be a good idea. Reason being? Because th Ninja's and Bungie employees have colored font. It distinguishes them from us. If colors were "given back," nothing would distinguish them form us.

Which is the way it should be, since moderators are really nothing but empowered members.

  • 12.23.2007 2:39 PM PDT

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Personally I am against this idea. Mainly because I don't see what they can really do and what function they would serve on the forums. You can already make text stand out or be noticed using the text mark-ups. Also I think they will make the forums look ugly. People will no doubt abuse the colours, using them for whole posts. On top of which it would make it harder for people to notice moderators and staff.

  • 12.23.2007 2:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Posted by: Fuzzy OneThree
Sorry to be so CYNICAL, but the forums would be filled with rainbow text.

EDIT: I found the word! CYNICAL!

Its incredibly tedious to make rainbow text, it wouldn't last for long. Can you imagine putting [color=*][/color] on every character? It would take 3 times longer to post.

I personally support this, since it really cannot be abused in any way.


If it couldn't be abused in any way, why was it taken away due to abuse? Personally, it makes no difference to me whether or not it's added, as long as features are implemented to keep abuse from happening, although I do not know what they could be.

  • 12.23.2007 3:00 PM PDT
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Location: Outlaws' Summit.

The Flood couldn't handle it.

And the Halo 3 forum sure as hell couldn't either lol. Though I'm surprised to see the titles working out well, I've only seen a couple "Shut up, I'm Herioc and you're just a regular member!" posts.

But yeah, colored text.......not a feasible idea.

  • 12.23.2007 3:25 PM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Posted by: Fuzzy OneThree
Sorry to be so CYNICAL, but the forums would be filled with rainbow text.

EDIT: I found the word! CYNICAL!

Its incredibly tedious to make rainbow text, it wouldn't last for long. Can you imagine putting [color=*][/color] on every character? It would take 3 times longer to post.

I personally support this, since it really cannot be abused in any way.


If it couldn't be abused in any way, why was it taken away due to abuse? Personally, it makes no difference to me whether or not it's added, as long as features are implemented to keep abuse from happening, although I do not know what they could be.

Taking member privileges away because it looks ugly is a dumb reason. If people want to take the time abuse something that really isn't abusable and is just a waste of time for them then it really doesn't need any punishment. If someone posts in rainbow, then just skip over his post or mark it as spam and move on. Is it really that hard for people to not read annoying posts?

PS: IF the government removed the ability to paint your car any color you want, would you be pissed? What if their excuse was that "it makes you stand out too much from others, so we are going to remove the privilege". Thats all I see here when you guys say that there shouldn't be any ability to post colors simply because its ugly looking and makes people stand out too much. Im really just playing devils advocate, but come on guys, get some better reasons to not allow this other than ugliness.

  • 12.23.2007 3:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Taking member privileges away because it looks ugly is a dumb reason.

No it isn't.

Is it really that hard for people to not read annoying posts?
It is when they're in bright rainbow colours, yes.

PS: IF the government removed the ability to paint your car any color you want, would you be pissed?
Ooh, fun, a straw man. The excuse isn't that "it makes you stand out", the excuse is that "it makes you stand out for all the wrong reasons". Stand out through your post quality. Colours are unnecessary and are absolute eye--blam!-.

[Edited on 12.23.2007 4:21 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2007 4:20 PM PDT

Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Taking member privileges away because it looks ugly is a dumb reason. If people want to take the time abuse something that really isn't abusable and is just a waste of time for them then it really doesn't need any punishment. If someone posts in rainbow, then just skip over his post or mark it as spam and move on. Is it really that hard for people to not read annoying posts?

PS: IF the government removed the ability to paint your car any color you want, would you be pissed? What if their excuse was that "it makes you stand out too much from others, so we are going to remove the privilege". Thats all I see here when you guys say that there shouldn't be any ability to post colors simply because its ugly looking and makes people stand out too much. Im really just playing devils advocate, but come on guys, get some better reasons to not allow this other than ugliness.

I think that readability is a lot more of a factor with that than ugliness. I mean, reading one universal off-white for everyone's posts is a heck of a lot easier for me than giving myself a headache over someone who has cyan, lime and fuchsia jumbled together in one paragraph.

To me, it's sort of like images in signatures. Loads of other forums support it, and there are advocates of having it here, but it's just not condusive to keeping the forums relatively uncluttered and free of flashy distractions.

Not that it wouldn't be cool to mess around with, but occasionaly a jerk would undoubtedly slip in and create migraine-inducing, 10,000-character rainbows. In my opinion: no.

  • 12.23.2007 7:35 PM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

If I saw a rainbow colored post, I would skip it. No questions asked. I really do hate it when people use post colors poorly (there are a few people on other forums who use colors you can barely read over the background), but in the end, all I do is either skip it or copy and paste the text into another window so I can read it easier. Besides, if someone has the time to post every character in a different color, they probably deserve to post it.

And about not being able to skip gaudy posts... it should be easy, since they are the first you see. Its like auto-aim to not read something.

  • 12.23.2007 9:21 PM PDT

The bible is the best book Ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AM A PROUD CHRISTIAN. HALO IS AWESOME BUT GOD IS MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!
Did you knew that JESUSdied for you?

who is Hitokiri 1000? and what he did?

  • 12.23.2007 9:24 PM PDT

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Anyone remember back in the day when coloured text was allowed by all members?

Like geez, it looked liked I was reading writting that was written in rainbow ice-cream or something =/

Posted by: Top_Gun_2021
I think it is time to let the members flirt with colored text again. It has been so long since Hitokiri 1000, and Chemical Panther "overused" it.

  • 12.23.2007 9:51 PM PDT
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I'm sure the users of these forums would find a way to abuse any colors granted to them. And there's no real point. Colors are for show and would serve no purpose to the regular members.

Although I remember seeing that someone had made a warthog out of the solid bars and a combination of colors, about the only neat thing I ever saw done with them.

  • 12.23.2007 10:03 PM PDT

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To get a life.


I'm a video gamer, I have multiple lives.


ZOMG COOLEST VIDEO!

maybe....a perk for members with a higher trust rating?

*sigh* colored text...another chapter in b.net history i missed....

  • 12.23.2007 11:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Posted by: roman arrow12
Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Posted by: Fuzzy OneThree
Sorry to be so CYNICAL, but the forums would be filled with rainbow text.

EDIT: I found the word! CYNICAL!

Its incredibly tedious to make rainbow text, it wouldn't last for long. Can you imagine putting [color=*][/color] on every character? It would take 3 times longer to post.

I personally support this, since it really cannot be abused in any way.


If it couldn't be abused in any way, why was it taken away due to abuse? Personally, it makes no difference to me whether or not it's added, as long as features are implemented to keep abuse from happening, although I do not know what they could be.


PS: IF the government removed the ability to paint your car any color you want, would you be pissed? What if their excuse was that "it makes you stand out too much from others, so we are going to remove the privilege". Thats all I see here when you guys say that there shouldn't be any ability to post colors simply because its ugly looking and makes people stand out too much. Im really just playing devils advocate, but come on guys, get some better reasons to not allow this other than ugliness.


That metaphor cannot be used at all. I don't see why you enjoy making metaphors linking Bungie to a government. They're not. The problem is, it makes people stand out for the wrong reason. I don't want to see colors on my screen. And, you keep denying that abuse is possible. Of course it is! But, with the reporting button, it can be combated much more easily. But why give the members something they obviously cannot be trusted with, and is not good for anything. There are so many other ways to divide up a long post than changing colors. The cons far outweigh the pros in this case.

  • 12.24.2007 6:49 AM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Its simple, if you don't want to see colors, make colors toggleable in the member settings. Just like you can do with displaying signatures, etc. These choices should be up to the members as to what they want to see on the forum, not the admins. Its our community, not theirs.

And yes, my metaphor works, you just looking too deeply into it, like most people here do with Halo. If you want to be afraid of giving the members power over anything, thats fine. But don't expect much to improve here if we cannot trust the members a little. I think activity, good activity, has increased since the member titles were put up. I have also become more inclined to post simply because I see more constructive talk around here. Members aren't your enemies, and some of you need to learn that.

  • 12.24.2007 8:34 AM PDT

Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Its simple, if you don't want to see colors, make colors toggleable in the member settings. Just like you can do with displaying signatures, etc. These choices should be up to the members as to what they want to see on the forum, not the admins. Its our community, not theirs.

And yes, my metaphor works, you just looking too deeply into it, like most people here do with Halo. If you want to be afraid of giving the members power over anything, thats fine. But don't expect much to improve here if we cannot trust the members a little. I think activity, good activity, has increased since the member titles were put up. I have also become more inclined to post simply because I see more constructive talk around here. Members aren't your enemies, and some of you need to learn that.

Yes, but if we don't have the colors-in-posts function in the first place, then the problem of needing a toggle on/off option doesn't even arise. I don't intend to argue with you about this, but I will explain myself a bit more.

Again, I do not believe that this feature is necessary. We do have other methods of formatting text that allow you to draw attention to those parts of a post that you want to draw attention to.

Firstly, it is our community, but it is run by the admins. They have total say over all matters concerning bungie.net, and they have the right to total control because they developed the website and they maintain it -- they reserve the right to remove anything they like. They can gather feedback and see what people want and don't want, but they also have to test it out and make sure that it doesn't negatively impact people and that it isn't too extraneous. In this case, and as I've already mentioned, we wouldn't need a toggle option if we didn't have a color option in the first place.

Secondly, I see your point, and it is a fairly good one: you think that we're saying that some members cannot be trusted with the color option. Of course some can't -- a lot of them can't even be trusted with the words in their posts, let alone the colors of those words. It's not a question of seeing people in black and white as either "enemies" or "good members" -- it's a question of analyzing whether a new system could theoretically be abused, and how that abuse would affect the forums.

The point is that we've gotten along for several years without this feature, and I don't think it's really critical enough to warrant being redone and put back in.

  • 12.24.2007 9:06 AM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

The criticalness of the feature is moot. Even I know there are more pressing matters and features that I would like to be implimented, but right now we are discussing text color formatting in posts, so it being critical or not isn't an issue, its just the topic.

And what I meant about trusting members is more along the lines of letting the possible abuse ruin it for all the members who would use it correctly. We have seen abuse of Forge (vandalism, etc), but that didn't stop it from being used constructively. Members are not to be feared, and the few shouldn't ruin it for the many. Bungie took a stab at member titles and little has arisen from them other than more activity on the forums, so could this really be much different? I can understand them putting it out and taking it away afterwards simply due to abuse, but just saying it will be abused without every actually trying is a bit stupid.

I know these forums had the feature before, but I was not here and do not know the circumstances for its removal. If it was one member or the entire forum that caused it, I do not know. The fact of the matter is this isn't the same b.net now.

  • 12.24.2007 9:31 AM PDT

Why do people in ship mutinies always ask for "better treatment"? I'd ask for a pinball machine, because with all that rocking back and forth, you'd get a lot of free games.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words - "mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.

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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
I know these forums had the feature before, but I was not here and do not know the circumstances for its removal. If it was one member or the entire forum that caused it, I do not know. The fact of the matter is this isn't the same b.net now.

I was there. I wasn't a moderator for most of the time it was active, but think that I may have been when it was removed.

It was ugly. Abuse was pretty widespread as it was a simple way to "make yourself stand out" in a manner that was (for the most part) annoying.

There were a few uses that I would consider helpful, color coding sections of a post for organization, changing colors to show dialog between two people in a single post, etc.

Most of which can still be done with formatting tools such as bolding or italics.

But the abuse? Choosing a color that was the same as the background in order to hide offensive or rule breaking posts. Thinking that a certain color was "yours", using it constantly and then arguing with others when they had the audacity to use "your color".

And now that the color are used to designate employee and moderator posts? If color were allowed by the general membership, I would give it 3 seconds before someone used gold text and an alt account to impersonate either an employee or a moderator. And many members would be fooled.


you could give us a color like pink or puke or something.

  • 12.24.2007 9:40 AM PDT
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I think i would get a seizure from the color blowout.

  • 12.24.2007 9:40 AM PDT

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The idea of a forum is that people post topics, reply to them, and discuss said topics. Colored text wouldn't really help the topics, it would make them more annoying. There are more problems it would bring than resolves.

  • 12.24.2007 10:22 AM PDT

Posted by: stare3
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To get a life.


I'm a video gamer, I have multiple lives.


ZOMG COOLEST VIDEO!

As i said, what about giving color just to members with a higher trust rating, people that wouldn't abuse but use it for a good logical reason.

  • 12.24.2007 10:30 AM PDT

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