- Kage24Neko
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- Exalted Mythic Member
I who walk alone in this world wrapped in the arms of the past not knowing what lies ahead of me. What am I? A soulless being to be beaten by the rage of those who hate me? Cutting my way past hopes and dreams. Sit in the window sill as I do every day and night resignations on my slate of who I am and what is left behind. Concealed in the words that chases my every thought. I who walk alone in this world…I am broken
Posted by: Debo37
Let me first bring into account my personal experience, as I don't feel that it falls in line exactly with the stipulations of multiple people in the thread:
I joined Bungie.net in December of '06.
I was banned from the public forums (file forums, specifically) one week for group advertising in around April-June of 2008.
I've maintained relatively steady activity since that point; being active primarily within private groups but occasionally in the public forums.
Judging by the fact that it's now November of 2009, I should (by the predictions of others) have "Honorable" tacked onto my member title because it's been over a year since my ban, yet I do not. To my knowledge, I haven't been banned at all in the meantime, though I have had inactive spells greater than three days (and there's always the possibility that an old post of mine was "vigilante'd" during one of these periods). However, I've recently been fluctuating between Heroic and Legendary status, which leads me to believe that the 2008 ban has been my one and only over the course of my membership here on Bungie.net (otherwise I probably would be permanently Heroic or fluctuating between Heroic and Member status).
Now, this raises interesting questions. Do the 1-year "Honorable" prefix stipulations and such only apply to members who have had minor bans of 3 days or less? Obviously, this would support the idea that 7 day bans and greater carry more of a negative trust modifier with them (which seems quite logical), but this would also mean that more severe bans linger with users for longer periods of time, and thus that the ban-related user titles aren't as cut-and-dry in their application to members as has been previously stated.
I think that more severe bans dilate the time frame it takes to achieve the ban-related prefixes by an amount directly correlated with the severity of the ban. Perhaps a 7 day ban dilates the "1 year, 2 year, 3 year" time frame by a factor of 7/3; a direct proportion to the amount of ban time served. A user with a 3 day ban would get an "Honorable" prefix 1 year after their Ban's conclusion, whereas it would take a 7 day ban-ee 2 and 1/3 years to gain the prefix. Of course, this probably isn't the correct ratio, but I'm sure you get the idea.
I think the concept of time frame dilation fits nicely with the rest of the ranks' attainment, including achievement of the "macro" ranks of Member, Heroic, Legendary, and Mythic. Of course, this holds no water if bans are factored out of the equation after a certain post-ban time period has elapsed (much as disciplinary infractions on various external forums expire as time proceeds), but if bans truly stick with members for the duration of their Bungie.net membership it should follow that it will take a member longer time to attain a high rank while having a ban history than otherwise.
Another concept that has intrigued me is that of the "arrangement" of all of the ranks. Achronos has stated that the values fluctuate based on the highest member of the population; has anyone ever considered the possibility that ranks may be assigned per a standard statistical distribution (like a normal distribution, for instance)? Granted, it's been stated that two variables (base_trust_rating and trust_modifier) affect member titles - meaning that it's bivariate data with which we're dealing (and a normal distribution only describes one variables distribution). Personally, I think that a normal distribution can be applied to the creation of the rank hierarchy in that it possibly determines the percentage of Mythics, Legendaries, and Heroics by essentially setting "tiers" of membership (visually, consider vertical lines being drawn connecting points on a normal curve to the horizontal axis of a graph), through which members advance by increasing the aforementioned variables' values. The area under the curve in each "tier" would simply represent the percentage of site goes with the given macro rank. I'm not exactly a statistics major, but I think the concept of standard statistical distributions in itself is worth mentioning because of its possible applicability to this situation no matter how off-the-mark my analysis (from very limited statistical knowledge, mind you) is. ;P
EDIT: Quite truthfully, at the time of posting this I was upgraded to Legendary Member from Heroic member. o_O Perhaps we now know that rank conversions happen at 1 AM PST? XDWow dude you kept track of all this.....You know some thing about three months ago i got of a four month ban and i have been a good boy and i am a heroic member...