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Subject: Covenant Multiplayer
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Do you think they should have Hunters and what not as playable multiplayer races or just an Elite counter part that would be faster but not quite as strong as Master Chief? I've heard both theories, but francly I think it would be SWEET to be able to play as a Hunter. Don't you agree? Or even, for a laugh, you could play as a Grunt. Now that would be comedy!

  • 04.16.2004 7:26 PM PDT
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If you were going to play as a Hunter thoough, they'd have to make where your only gun is the mounted fuel rod (obviously) but you'de have to have infinite ammo. That and you;de be incredibly slow, but have a kick a$$ melee attack.

  • 04.16.2004 11:55 PM PDT
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Hunters aren't that slow when they charge they are about the same speed as a grunt or jackal. I think it would be cool if u could have covenant forms like elites hunters and brutes with covenant weapons and covenant vehicles and covenant forts. Taking on spartans, odst's, and marines, with human weapons and human vehicles and human forts. That would make in my opinion a revolutionary type of multiplayer. I'd love that so much if it came true.

  • 04.17.2004 1:22 AM PDT
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you should be able to play as every character ODST, Marines, Grunts so on and so on. even if they wont be as good as the Elite or SPARTAN it wouldn't hurt to put them in. how fun would it be messing around with your friends on Live as grunts ..... speaking of which if you a grunt or any covie you should have their voice, as an option of course and think of the possibilities Red vs. Blue will have : )

  • 04.17.2004 2:47 AM PDT

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Yeah, it would be nice to get a squad of grunts and lob a grenade onto one of them, without them running back into the pack for a change.

  • 04.17.2004 2:51 AM PDT
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using all covies could make some cool race specific games like volley ball with a nade and jackals using their sheilds to keep it up, lol

  • 04.17.2004 3:05 AM PDT
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think how funny it is when you're a grunt and kill spartans! that's class.

  • 04.17.2004 3:34 AM PDT
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I'd like to be brutes and elites. and they should fight against ODSTs and regular marines.

  • 04.17.2004 3:42 AM PDT
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it ould damn cool to be a hunter, though the melees are deadly + cool, Hunters can't drive vehicles whereas MC (allegedly) can drive ANY vehicle in Halo 2 except the Covenant dropship..................DAMN!!!!

  • 04.17.2004 4:00 AM PDT
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if covenant were on mulitplayer it would be just a skin with possibly a different style HUD nothing more. The game will become to unbalanced otherwise

  • 04.17.2004 4:35 AM PDT
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No I think if you were certain types of covenant (like Grunts which are pretty weak), you should have bonus given. For example, if you're a Grunt, you could get a moral boost of some sort if you are around other friendlis (or maybe a group of friendlies) making the Grunt harder to kill. And a Squad of Jackals would get a faster firing rate than just one Jackel. Do you get what I mean? Some small boost like that for certain conditions.

And for Hunters, because they only have one weapon, and the melee button is already taken care of, the alternate weapon should be like blocking with his shield (what's an impregnable shield if you can't use it?), Because if it were only a different costume and HUD depneding on what covenant you pick,it be kindof boring don't you think?

  • 04.17.2004 8:51 AM PDT
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You know what other multiplayerr feature would be great? Something like a covenant vs. humans war.
One side gets to pick covenant units while the other gets Human units (with a limit so you don't have 8 Spartans running around). I think something like that especially over Live would be cool.

  • 04.17.2004 12:30 PM PDT
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who would want to be anyone besides master chief? he is the ultimate character.

  • 04.17.2004 12:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: GoldenElite0
if covenant were on mulitplayer it would be just a skin with possibly a different style HUD nothing more. The game will become to unbalanced otherwise


I think you are right, other wise it wouldnt be balanced.

  • 04.17.2004 12:34 PM PDT

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it'd be cool, but they rent gonna do it. maybe elites, perfectly on par with the spartans in every way, just ot distinguisht he two teams more. but htat'd be it. it'd be different skin if anything, nothing altering gameplay

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I would love to play as any kind of covenant! That would be awesome.

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I think thatnhuman live players would be ODST's, and covenant players online would be elites.

  • 04.17.2004 12:37 PM PDT
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maybe if you choose to be a grunt, you would have other grunt bodyguards.

  • 04.17.2004 12:47 PM PDT
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It would be cool, but lets face it, who would ever be a grunt going up against Spartans. I would get so pissed off. they have nothing on the MC except that they are smaller targets. even jackals in Mp would suck. their shields are breakable in H2 and if they were fighting in a game with more than one enemy it would be easy as hell to flank them. It would be almost
impossible to balance. the only way they could even attempt it is with respawn times. like the grunt respawns instantly and the Spartans respawn after 30 seconds, even then your score would suck as a grunt.
Although, if your had a tiered multiplayer system where only certain classes were used it might work. ( like lightweights = marines vs. grunts. middleweights jackals vs. ODSTs and heavyweights Spatans vs. elites)

  • 04.17.2004 12:51 PM PDT
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But if they don't give the Covenant anything special then what's the point of including them in mulitplayer? If it's just another skin then why waste your time. If it's going to be that way then Bungie should just scrap Covenant multiplayer. But I don't think it's going to be that way. I still hold to my idead of Covenant having some sort of boost on certain occasions. Especially Grunts because otherwise they'de be too weak to play anyway. The only worthwhile character would be Master Chief (obviously) Elites (MC's counterpart) Hunters (because they aren't complete push overs and OSDT Marines (maybe).

  • 04.17.2004 7:50 PM PDT
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It would be really cool for CTF having all the Covenant in it. With 8 players on the Covenant team like 2 could be Hunters defending the base, 2 could be rushing Elites, another 2 could be defending Jackals (using their sheilds to cover entrances, etc.), and the last 2 players could be Brutes who would just be used as a distraction as the Elites go in for the flag.
Then there could be the humans who have 4 ODST's defending their flag, while 3 Spartans rush the Covenant, and one Marine picks off the Covies from a distance.
It would be a cool concept for mulitplayer, but I think the Covenant team would have a slight advantage.

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Posted by: GoldenElite0
if covenant were on mulitplayer it would be just a skin with possibly a different style HUD nothing more. The game will become to unbalanced otherwise


It'd look crappy if they just put an Elite Skin over a Spartan II model... It would be:

Elite Model
Elite Skin
Elite Animations
Elite Hud
Elite sounds

and everything else that has to do with the Elites...

  • 04.17.2004 8:04 PM PDT
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Bungie will probably make it so everything on the HUD looks more "alien" or sci-fi compared to the Spartan HUD. It would be really sweet though, if when an Elite player talks its 3 parted jaw moves as well, making for so sweet looking Elite conversation.

  • 04.17.2004 8:07 PM PDT
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You know, I think if Bungie put some work into this (which might delay game so make it downloadable from Xbox Live or something) they might be able to balance things out. Firstly, lets be real, who wants to be a Grunt from more than just laughs... *crickets* yeah I thought so. A way to balance this out might be to allow only so many of one thing. Like since theres only 1 MC in Halo theres only one MC in this. And then for ODST's there would be 1 for every 2 people who are HP's (human players) but one of those has to be a Marine. I know what your thinking: DUDE, Marines are just fodder dude. Well if they got to start out with a specific human weapon of choice then it might balance. They might carry the rocket launcher or Sniper rifle into battle while ODST's and the MC doing more of the charging in stuff.

Since few, if any, are going to want to be a grunt. Maybe make them bots, you know just to fill up the fodder rank, or just say "good day" to them. Brutes could be the main stream for covies, since they dont got a shield. This makes them somewhat even with basic Marines. Then have 1 Elite for every two CP's (covie players); one of them having to be a Brute, 1 Jackel for every 3 CP's; 2 having to be Brute/Elite, and 1 Hunter for every 5 CP's; 4 of them having to be Brute/Elite/Jackle. Jackels would only be able to use the PR, P. Pistol, and Needeler, one handers. Since, Jackels didn't have a melee attack, or at least I never saw it I just got pointed at... you couldn't see it on the outside but it hurt :(, they might be able to move their shield around in some way instead. Brutes would have to carry their gun at all times, only allowing for one variable weapon. Elites would have to be put on par with ODST's. Now of course just like in the game, Covies would have to work together to really be successful. Doing this covers the short comings of their friends.

Another idea: Make it so that Humans can only use human weapons and Covies can only use covie weapons. I know that in Halo sometimes, Specificly on Truth and Rec, Marines used covies weapons but for the sake of atmosphere lets say only MC knows how to use them. This basicly makes MC one of the better guys to be, but you could always have a Golden Elite who is on par with MC, who can even use human weapons, what a hereitic.

I covered all the balance problems I could think of, post criticisms (plz don't just rant/flame me I'm fargile) and I'll try to work them out. And then, maybe, jjjuuust maybe Bungie might do it if I send them an E-Mail or something. This might just turn out to be a fun game type that we see in the future... but i doubt that highly.

[Edited on 4/18/2004 4:39:18 AM]

  • 04.18.2004 4:15 AM PDT
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I wold always been a red grunt with helmet in MP,sneak up on the ODST base,scanning for enemies and then steal their warthog,what a sight it would been when the ODST wonder where their warthog took its way,when i the grunt,drive laughing back to my covie companions,what a crazy comedy game it would been!hahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!

  • 04.18.2004 4:27 AM PDT