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Subject: Time for Change ; BXR
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Poll: Should this action be taken?  [closed]
yes:  38%
(8 Votes)
no:  62%
(13 Votes)
Total Votes: 21

Ive read through the forum for a good hour and its like being in the house of commons; so much talk, but so little action. The general consensus i get from the majority of posts is that the animation glitches are cheating. So is superjumping, and i find anyway that once you get up onto the top of lockout/ wheel on zanzibar and shoot someone everyone knows your there and you get gunned down. In conclusion both need to be stopped.

The action that needs to be taken is incredibly simple; Bungie will have to put a new message up on MM loading screens. Something as simple as BXR BANNED and then explain the ban, add a webpage for information. This will scare most the "cheaters" off, however, what im afraid of is Bungie is too bothered about money to cut the monthly subscriptions with such action.

Im adding a poll to see what people make of my proposal.
Hope im not reiterating someone elses point.
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[Edited on 12.23.2007 7:44 PM PST]

  • 12.23.2007 7:43 PM PDT

At any given time there are only a couple thousand Halo 2 users online. Too few use that game for Bungie to fix anything. Your best chance would be to move to Halo 3 where less cheating takes place.

  • 12.23.2007 8:37 PM PDT
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It's good to see that you want to help, but your idea wouldn't work out for several reasons. 1.)There is no system that can track if a person uses a button glitch. 2.) Bungie has it's focus on Halo 3 now, and it is highly unlikely that they will update Halo 2.

  • 12.24.2007 4:24 AM PDT
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I would like to think that mass feedback will have some effect on the matter. The problem is that no-one knows that bxr is illegal so they do not report it, raising awareness would have a shot at stopping the problem. Oh and where is the can-do attitude round here, ive seen more drive from hitlers bunker.

  • 12.24.2007 9:57 AM PDT
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Wow seriously get off of the button glitches, i hate all you -blam!- noobs that say its cheating because i can press buttons better than you. Thats like banning people for being able to shoot you in the head four times with a br, oh my god he pulled the right trigger faster than i did he cheated. Give me a -blam!- break, its really not that complicated to bxr. Let me break it down, aim for the head press B to lunge then as soon as the beatdown connects press X then R, or ill tell you an easier way. If you hold down R while reloading all you have to do is press B an X the R will go automatically. I played on a low acct in double team, around level 20 and i got accused of cheating because i had "perfect" headshots and i "never" missed a shot. So i played him on his host 1V1 and he told me i modded, i was like wtf. I also get accused of double shotting, every other match. Its like ppl automatically assume that if they get out BRed the guy has to be double shotting. This -blam!- needs to stop so many people are bad sports in halo if you get owned legit by people that obviously have a highers skill level than you, dont leave them bad feedback for cheating. Bungie doesnt need to waste their time banning people who use button glitches. the feedback system should only be used for people who actually cheat, such as standby , mod etc. I also hate when people say oh the only reason you won is cuz your team had sword, thats -blam!- retarded. If its a weapon on the map im going to use it, what do you expect me not to use it and leave it for you to own me with. A big part of team slayer in H2 is weapon control get used to it.

  • 12.25.2007 1:11 AM PDT
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The only solution is for people to excercise their right to be responsible.

  • 12.25.2007 9:44 PM PDT
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Less Cheating in Halo 3? Lets see...IP Flooding/Denial of Service attacks (DOS), Instant Respawn, Sniper Glitch...(should I go on) Hmmm Yeah Less Cheating in Halo 3!!! Actually I expected a lot better for a game in development for as long as it was w/ almost a month of beta testing...dont get me wrong it's a good game but same thing with different clothes!

[Edited on 12.28.2007 9:40 AM PST]

  • 12.28.2007 9:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: DeathStrykr
Less Cheating in Halo 3? Lets see...IP Flooding/Denial of Service attacks (DOS), Instant Respawn, Sniper Glitch...(should I go on) Hmmm Yeah Less Cheating in Halo 3!!! Actually I expected a lot better for a game in development for as long as it was w/ almost a month of beta testing...dont get me wrong it's a good game but same thing with different clothes!


I'm completely with you with the removal of the Halo 3 glitches.. but dude.. this is a Halo 2 forum.

  • 12.28.2007 5:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: IxIx Fatal xIxI
A button Glitch is not cheating it's just strategy!!!
You don't have to BxR You can always B then wait for .3 second and R


Strategy, perhaps. But it is cheating. Regardless of what you say, this has been confirmed by Bungie.

  • 12.28.2007 6:25 PM PDT
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1st Nobody gives a damn about the 32 ppl still playing h2

its filled with cheaters just as bad as before

Move onto H3 if you want a crisp and olid no cheating game

  • 12.28.2007 8:02 PM PDT

Posted by: Hypernovian
Posted by: Viper Venom
did you ever hear of an auto-cocker?
...Thats what she said.

Posted by: DeathStrykr
Less Cheating in Halo 3? Lets see...IP Flooding/Denial of Service attacks (DOS), Instant Respawn, Sniper Glitch...(should I go on) Hmmm Yeah Less Cheating in Halo 3!!! Actually I expected a lot better for a game in development for as long as it was w/ almost a month of beta testing...dont get me wrong it's a good game but same thing with different clothes!


Dude you dont even know what your talking about. Instant respawn? CUSTOM GAMES. Sniper glitch? LAGGGG.

  • 12.29.2007 7:45 AM PDT

It's a good thought, but it wouldn't work. The BXR and superjumps are actually the results of bugs that are deep inside the game itself. The glitches have been sealed into the game itself, unintentionally becoming permanent elements of the game. Because they are parts of the game, the Banhammer can't differenciate between whether or not they're supposed to be there.

Posted by: CaptainArsewipe
Ive read through the forum for a good hour and its like being in the house of commons; so much talk, but so little action. The general consensus i get from the majority of posts is that the animation glitches are cheating. So is superjumping, and i find anyway that once you get up onto the top of lockout/ wheel on zanzibar and shoot someone everyone knows your there and you get gunned down. In conclusion both need to be stopped.

The action that needs to be taken is incredibly simple; Bungie will have to put a new message up on MM loading screens. Something as simple as BXR BANNED and then explain the ban, add a webpage for information. This will scare most the "cheaters" off, however, what im afraid of is Bungie is too bothered about money to cut the monthly subscriptions with such action.

Im adding a poll to see what people make of my proposal.
Hope im not reiterating someone elses point.
Fugazi - Combination lock

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  • 12.29.2007 8:38 AM PDT
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I don't mind any button glitches or superjumping. Its a game. I think you just trying to make an excuse of why you're so bad. I wish Halo 3 had glitches, it makes the game funner!

  • 12.29.2007 9:52 PM PDT
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actually ive found since h3 came out the games on h2 have been better, less cheating (standbying for host, laggin out games on deliberate, super jumps, button combos, whatever u name it) pll r actually playing it how it was made now so i dont really see the need as everyone is using the game correctly 99% of the time....

as for the guy that said button combos/super jumps aint cheating coz everyone can do it but then he turns around n says moddin n standbying is actual cheating, y do u say that? every1 could do that too if they wanted, its just as simple n just as dirty as sum1 that button combo's/super jumps

in my mind anything that wasnt meant to b used in the game when bungie created it but ppl do is cheating, so yes that does include button combos my friend. if it wasnt cheating then y did they fix the problem for h3?

  • 12.30.2007 1:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: TokenBlackGuy4U
actually ive found since h3 came out the games on h2 have been better, less cheating (standbying for host, laggin out games on deliberate, super jumps, button combos, whatever u name it) pll r actually playing it how it was made now so i dont really see the need as everyone is using the game correctly 99% of the time....

as for the guy that said button combos/super jumps aint cheating coz everyone can do it but then he turns around n says moddin n standbying is actual cheating, y do u say that? every1 could do that too if they wanted, its just as simple n just as dirty as sum1 that button combo's/super jumps

in my mind anything that wasnt meant to b used in the game when bungie created it but ppl do is cheating, so yes that does include button combos my friend. if it wasnt cheating then y did they fix the problem for h3?
actually i didnt say that anyone could do it random, look at my post. i said if you complain because you can't press the buttons bx and then r, which are all buttons on the controller then you must have downsyndrome. actually not everyone can standby or mod, and its not as simple as pressing 3 buttons on a controller you -blam!- random. these are glitches that are built into the physics of the game and there is no way for bungie to tell whether or not they are used in mm so there will never be such thing as a bxr ban end of discussion.

  • 01.07.2008 5:37 AM PDT
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where has it been confirmed by bungie that BXRing somone is cheating, post a link

  • 01.07.2008 5:38 AM PDT