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Subject: PS2=Espionage
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Poll: Believe it?  [closed]
Do you believe me and now find the PS2 wortless. :  75%
(12 Votes)
Believe me, don't care :  6%
(1 Votes)
a load of -blam-:  19%
(3 Votes)
Total Votes: 16

PS2 has good games but was the system good even when it came out in japan in 1999.

The PS2 had a state of the art graphics card when it came out in japan in 1999 but it wasn't the best out their.

Specs for the PS2 in 98 included a built in netwok adapter, four controller slots, a hardrive, a built in memory unit (card) and the best graphics card money could make. But none of these things made it in. Why?

Money. Greedy Money.

Sony researched their biggest money making playstation 1 products and games and found it to actually be multitabs and memory cards. They cut the slots the built in memory unit and decided that they could trick the playstation fan populace once again by getting them to buy multitabs and memory cards. They also made a marketing decision to release the adapter and hardrive later as separate add ons so they could make money off of them like they do with multitabs and memory cards.

They released the PS2 a year later in the US, earlier in the UK, for a whopping $299, but the public, not including PC gamers and hardcore console gamers who know their goods, didn't know about the earlier specs of the playstation 2 prototype and that the graphics were already out of date were bought out by their ignorance and bought it because it was the only next gen system of their time. 70,000,000 million PS2s were sold world wide quickly.

Sony used their money made from the overhyped PS2 sales to buy out companies with under the table deals for exclusivty rights of games that were meant to be on multiplatforms, these companies include capcom and the devil may cry and onimusha series; square soft (square enix now) and their final fantasy series; Konami and most of their games(metal gear2 and 3, silent hill 3); take two/rockstar.

These games and series with the exception of devil may cry were originally announced at E3 to be made for both xbox and the PS2. Since Xbox came out later sony had time to buy out squaresoft's FFX before the the announce xbox version was put into production. Rockstar only settled for a temporary deal and konami and capcom gave up games and their sequels that sony found the most popular before and after the release of the xbox. Unfortunately leaving xbox without onimusha 2 and 3, devil may cry, silent hill 3, and possiblymetal gear 3, as well as earlier releases of
gta and many konami games on the system now.

I will give the answer if this is true are false later.

  • 12.31.2004 5:40 PM PDT
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Everything will be gone long before me. When the first living thing was born, I was here, waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job is finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave.

I always new the PS2 was cr@p.I am 1 of 3 in my grade that has an X-Box. the rest have a PS2 or nothing.

  • 12.31.2004 5:43 PM PDT
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i think the X-box is better, but the isn't crap, the Gamecube is

[Edited on 12/31/2004 5:50:46 PM]

  • 12.31.2004 5:50 PM PDT
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even though the gamecube has no dvd capability and weird controls as well as no online games, it is targeted towards children and strives to be a game system for children.
It also has a better graphics card then ps2 and sells memory cards of up to 64mb for $25, ps2 only has 8mb cards which are for $30.

[Edited on 12/31/2004 6:07:37 PM]

  • 12.31.2004 6:03 PM PDT
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aye, sony doesnt care about the gamers, only their money. But there's one thing sony didnt buy out... HALO!!!!

  • 12.31.2004 6:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: disgruntledfan
even though the gamecube has no dvd capability and weird controls as well as no online games, it is targeted towards children and strives to be a game system for children.
It also has a better graphics card then ps2 and sells memory cards of up to 64mb for $25, ps2 only has 8mb cards which are for $30.


Not to mention that pretty much all of the first party games for GC are fun as hell. I just got back from playing SSBM, a friggin' party game, by myself for 2-3 hours.

  • 12.31.2004 6:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: amazedsatsuma
i think the X-box is better, but the isn't crap, the Gamecube is


Oh -blam!- off. The Gamecube ain't crap! Besides, X-Play beat up each of the systems with sledghammers and the Gamecube was the only one still working. Ahh... I loved that episode... And the PS2 was the first not to work! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 12.31.2004 6:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: VegasSpartan
Posted by: amazedsatsuma
i think the X-box is better, but the isn't crap, the Gamecube is


Oh -blam!- off. The Gamecube ain't crap! Besides, X-Play beat up each of the systems with sledghammers and the Gamecube was the only one still working. Ahh... I loved that episode... And the PS2 was the first not to work! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah, well there was a confirmed incident of a college roomate shooting his other roomate's xbox with a pistol. The xbox still functioned perfectly.

As for the PS2, anyone who isnt a PS2 fanboy knows that sony is the antonym of quality. In fact there have been many an accusation that Sony purposely made the PS2 easily destructible (coughhackdiskreaderrorcoughhack) so that system owners would have to shell out another (then) $300 for a new PS2. The PSX (by PSX I mean the PS1 model 1, not the first remake of the PS2 that had TiVo abilities that was released only in Japan) also had many quality problems. And most recently my PS2 mem card was reformatted spountansly thanks to Sony's Holiday Disc '04, which (for those who dont know) reformats your mem card when you play the Viewtiful Joe 2 demo on it. Of course by the time Sony acknowledged this it was too late for me. So thanks to Sony's lack of QA testing on their products I got royally screwed. This "quality" is the reason Im not buying a PSP (at least not for 1-2 years after its release, when sony will have fixed the inevitable disc read error that their systems seem to constantly have). Also, when it comes to quality Nintendo is at the top. Tell me, when was the last time you saw a complaint that the GC had a disc read error? Of course, theres always my personal experience where I dropped by GBC about 20 feet (i was climbing a tree with my GBC in my pocket. hey stop that laughing! I was like 12 or 13) onto some granite rocks below. Amazingly it still worked, and with only a tiny scratch on the screen. When it comes to MS (well at least with the xbox. dont get me started on windows) theyve got pretty good quality too. I was actully pretty surprised at their quality considering how new to the console gaming scene they are (which actully isnt true I suppose since they released two 8-bit consoles in Japan in the late 80's). But to summerize, yes, if the word SONY is on the product, make damn sure it has a good warranty.

  • 12.31.2004 11:21 PM PDT
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actually gameguy the ps2 like the ps1 has factory obsolescence, this is purposely put their so the system cannot last as long, all things have it especially sony's overused cd players but you must treat and clean everything to get it's full potential of life before it dies.

  • 01.02.2005 4:11 PM PDT
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After the lack of attention to my posts I have decided to answer if this is fact or fiction.

IT IS FFFFFAAAAAACCCCTTTT!!!!!!!!!!

If you read interviews by sony and microsoft as well as E3 post and interviews by magazines and sites, like ign.com you will find that all these things I've said are plainly stated and they are all fact.

  • 01.02.2005 4:15 PM PDT
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I don't care.

  • 01.02.2005 4:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: Gameguy6700
Posted by: VegasSpartan
Posted by: amazedsatsuma
i think the X-box is better, but the isn't crap, the Gamecube is


Oh -blam!- off. The Gamecube ain't crap! Besides, X-Play beat up each of the systems with sledghammers and the Gamecube was the only one still working. Ahh... I loved that episode... And the PS2 was the first not to work! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yeah, well there was a confirmed incident of a college roomate shooting his other roomate's xbox with a pistol. The xbox still functioned perfectly.

As for the PS2, anyone who isnt a PS2 fanboy knows that sony is the antonym of quality. In fact there have been many an accusation that Sony purposely made the PS2 easily destructible (coughhackdiskreaderrorcoughhack) so that system owners would have to shell out another (then) $300 for a new PS2. The PSX (by PSX I mean the PS1 model 1, not the first remake of the PS2 that had TiVo abilities that was released only in Japan) also had many quality problems. And most recently my PS2 mem card was reformatted spountansly thanks to Sony's Holiday Disc '04, which (for those who dont know) reformats your mem card when you play the Viewtiful Joe 2 demo on it. Of course by the time Sony acknowledged this it was too late for me. So thanks to Sony's lack of QA testing on their products I got royally screwed. This "quality" is the reason Im not buying a PSP (at least not for 1-2 years after its release, when sony will have fixed the inevitable disc read error that their systems seem to constantly have). Also, when it comes to quality Nintendo is at the top. Tell me, when was the last time you saw a complaint that the GC had a disc read error? Of course, theres always my personal experience where I dropped by GBC about 20 feet (i was climbing a tree with my GBC in my pocket. hey stop that laughing! I was like 12 or 13) onto some granite rocks below. Amazingly it still worked, and with only a tiny scratch on the screen. When it comes to MS (well at least with the xbox. dont get me started on windows) theyve got pretty good quality too. I was actully pretty surprised at their quality considering how new to the console gaming scene they are (which actully isnt true I suppose since they released two 8-bit consoles in Japan in the late 80's). But to summerize, yes, if the word SONY is on the product, make damn sure it has a good warranty.


Hmm...Sony seems an awful lot like Ford. I wonder if one company owns the other, by chance?

I agree with you. Nintendo stuff is dang near indestructible. I left my GBC on the ground outside my sleeping bag during a scout campout once. It got way cold that night. Like, below zero (we were fine because we were under concrete insulating blankets). The next day it worked perfectly. I also accidentally dropped it in a wading pool once. It worked again after a day or so.

My favorite Nintendo punishment test is the one where the EGM staff flushed a GBA in a toilet (they took pictures and everything) and it worked a few days later.

I may not like Nintendo all that much, but I'll give them the respect they deserve for making high-quality hardware that is virtually indestructible.

  • 01.02.2005 4:52 PM PDT
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Sony never bought out squaresoft. Did you make some of that up?

  • 01.02.2005 5:50 PM PDT