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all you cod4 guys have finally just wore me down. spamming our forums with halo hate, i surrender im just gonna quit playing halo 3 and go play cod4 ok are you happy you win. dont stop spamming the forum with your opions though please. there are still a lot more people that need to convert to cod4. afterall a hell of a lot more people play halo 3 more than cod4 but i guess thats what makes cod4 better i dont really know.

the above statement is complete and utter sarcasm. i dont get what these dumbass people are getting at. do they really think any of us are just gonna be like yeah -blam!- halo?

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  • 12.28.2007 11:28 AM PDT
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I voted for it as best multiplayer game, but had to give GOTY to mass effect, That game rocks!

  • 12.28.2007 12:00 PM PDT

You know what? Halo 3 players should be happy. All the idiots went to cod 4.

  • 12.28.2007 12:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Hitzel
That "small part" is actually bigger than you give it credit for. Theres a ton of anti-Halo threads here.

Halo 3's fanbase consists of casual players because Bungie designed and marketed the game towards casual players, not their fanbase. Those fans have the right to be pissed off when Bungie sells them out to make money.

I've been a Bungie fan since Marathon. I'm quite delighted by Halo 3. Who is this Fanbase you speak of? You and some other guys you talk to? It's a little bigger than that, and the majority really isn't all that angry at all.

  • 12.28.2007 12:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hitzel
That "small part" is actually bigger than you give it credit for. Theres a ton of anti-Halo threads here.

Halo 3's fanbase consists of casual players because Bungie designed and marketed the game towards casual players, not their fanbase. Those fans have the right to be pissed off when Bungie sells them out to make money.

I've been a Bungie fan since Marathon. I'm quite delighted by Halo 3. Who is this Fanbase you speak of? You and some other guys you talk to? It's a little bigger than that, and the majority really isn't all that angry at all.

Yeah the majority of fans are happy with halo3, but then theres the few that dont.....

  • 12.28.2007 12:07 PM PDT

There are people that are angry. But I think most people expected too much. Either that or the maps are just really really boring.

  • 12.28.2007 12:07 PM PDT
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  • 12.28.2007 12:09 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hitzel
That "small part" is actually bigger than you give it credit for. Theres a ton of anti-Halo threads here.

Halo 3's fanbase consists of casual players because Bungie designed and marketed the game towards casual players, not their fanbase. Those fans have the right to be pissed off when Bungie sells them out to make money.

I've been a Bungie fan since Marathon. I'm quite delighted by Halo 3. Who is this Fanbase you speak of? You and some other guys you talk to? It's a little bigger than that, and the majority really isn't all that angry at all.

Yeah the majority of fans are happy with halo3, but then theres the few that dont.....


No crap. I love Halo 3. I love both the campaign and the multiplayer. I don't see why everyone seems to want reassurance that they are playing the "best" game. If you enjoy it, who cares what everyone else thinks!!!!!

  • 12.28.2007 12:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ponkapoag
Egocentrism for the win!
Look, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But they did not step on the fans. And nothing is catching up to them.
I sympathize if the game is not what some people wanted it to be. But if the game were catered to your exact specifications, a lot of other people would also be saying the game was made to exclude them.
The one great thing Halo does that a lot of other games don't is allow you to play the game however you want and modify attributes, game types, etc.
That is something nobody ever gives them credit for. Most of these debates would not even occur if Bungie acted like a lot of game developers and made a game, released it, and walked away.
I don't mean to come off as an egotist, but I'm not going to sit here and agree with what Bungie's done when I seriously believe it's wrong. At the end of they day, it's not a huge problem, but when I'm talking about it to people who care about Halo, I'm going to be honest.

The options aren't there. Where our options to balance specific weapons? Spawn weapons and powerups on set timers? Create a controllable player spawn system? We have the tools available to make a goofy gametype, but not a serious one.

Read this thread I wrote. I think it'll shed light onto what people like me have a problem with.


Hey - great post. I do understand where you are coming from. I don't agree 100%, but I see the logic. My standards are just different, I suppose, and that is cool...
My main point is, I guess, that there is no singular community for Halo anymore. Call it good, call it bad, whatever....I think it is true. Things have fractured way too much to the point that, now 3 games in, opinions on what the game SHOULD be are all over the map. It's like using the term "American" and hoping someone else will know exactly what an "American" believes in, likes to do, and how they vote on key issues.
We are all Halo fans, I think it is safe to say. But we also all have strong opinions on what we want - or don't want - in the game. Some people would like objective only - others slayer only. Some like the default settings - others like MLG type rules. Some want different physics, and some want games where invisible juggernauts run at 200% speed with rocket launchers. So - letting one part of the community down doesn't have as big an impact as it once did. Partially because gaming is mainstream entertainment now. The hardcore gamers were the pioneers, but now they don't represent the direction the gaming industry as a whole is moving in. Games are more inclusive now, and the hardcore gamer's wants are naturally exclusive.
I don't think your complaints are unwarranted, unimportant, or trivial. I just think that the longevity of a game these days relies less on what it did in the days of Halo:CE, for example. And gaming has changed.
One thing this has done is created a vaccuum of sorts where the hardcore gamers are looking for validation of their needs. Organizations like MLG do a service to them by understanding and responding to what those people want to see in games, but if a game developer were to make a game for the exact same crowd, they would be minimizing the potential "success" of a game. These companies making games, like it or not, HAVE TO look at success in terms of return on investment, or profit. I mean sure....they could try to make the Citizen Kane of games, but they need to make money, too. Nobody makes games (or at least the ones that end up on store shelves) without trying to appeal to as many possible consumers as possible.

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Posted by: bigpoppapandy
There are people that are angry. But I think most people expected too much. Either that or the maps are just really really boring.

The only thing i expected to be good was the story. Unfortunately for me it wasnt. I think the maps realyl are boring and not just the multiplayer ones...

  • 12.28.2007 12:10 PM PDT

Posted by: db0l
900,000 Halo3 players in the last 24 hours with 35,000 playing Halo 2

what's call of duty 4 pullin in these days? 200,000? does anyone even play COD3?

yeah halo is real dead, COD4 is def where its at
I can understand stating your opinion, but don't try to pass it off as fact.

Based on your scratch at CoD3, I'm assuming that you haven't even played the CoD games. Everybody who's played all of the CoD games knows that CoD3 was a let down. CoD2 was a great game, and CoD4 continued the reign of awesome.

I'm not saying Halo is bad, nor am I saying CoD4 is the best game ever. I like Halo. I like the co-op and the multiplayer. I like CoD too. I like it for the range of weapon combinations and perks that add to creativity. I'm a fan of both for each their own aspects.

  • 12.28.2007 12:13 PM PDT
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I enjoy both COD4 and Halo 3. I usally go back and forth between those and Guitar Hero 3. I don't care what anyone says about any game really. As long as I enjoy it.

  • 12.28.2007 12:21 PM PDT
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halo is amzing cod stinks.

  • 12.28.2007 12:40 PM PDT

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The Campaign in Halo 3 was terrible compared to the Call of Duty 4 Campaign, and game companies can't really add how good the MP is because it costs an extra $50 a year to access, killing a lot of MP heavy games such as Halo. However, Halo 3 wins hands down best Online Multi-player every gaming site, so basically you get the best OM or the best overall game.... COD 4 MP isn't as good but the SP is 5* better and more intense. Not to mention much better graphically.

  • 12.28.2007 12:48 PM PDT

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I really don't think Halo and Call of Duty are really competing with one another. They're too wildly different games. It just so happens that they're both incredibly awesome games, and this simple fact makes sense to anyone with half a brain.

quoted for truth it all depends on ur tastes

  • 12.28.2007 12:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: roaddog
He check out IGN's game of the year & First-Person Shooter of the year.

http://bestof.ign.com/2007/xbox360/24.html

Just goes to show you that the lack of depth in this years Halo 3 is startin to show its true colors. It basically Halo 2 but with better graphics. It's funny to see the amount of players online to begin with over 3 million people plumet to 45,000. I know I myself have referred Call of Duty 4 to at least 10 people that would have bought Halo 3. Sorry bungie but Halo is dead.

Is anybody interested in my Halo 3? I will sell it for free!


Trust me, Bungie will not cry one tear over this. Halo 3 is the most sucessful game of all time, and even if its averaging 45K players at a time vs. a half a million, 45K at any given time is still a big community, especialy for a game that has so much quality competition.

Halo 3 is a great game, so is COD4 / Orange Box, Mass Effect / GH3 / seriously, its a great time to be a xbox360 gamer, being negative about a hugely sucessful game is not going to make your favorite any more popular.

  • 12.28.2007 1:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: roaddog
He check out IGN's game of the year & First-Person Shooter of the year.

http://bestof.ign.com/2007/xbox360/24.html

Just goes to show you that the lack of depth in this years Halo 3 is startin to show its true colors. It basically Halo 2 but with better graphics. It's funny to see the amount of players online to begin with over 3 million people plumet to 45,000. I know I myself have referred Call of Duty 4 to at least 10 people that would have bought Halo 3. Sorry bungie but Halo is dead.

Is anybody interested in my Halo 3? I will sell it for free!


Then go on a COD4 forum you dumb ass.

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Posted by: Unstopable Rage
kinda funny a lot of people couldnt even play cod4 christmas day.
why do you ask. oh because they didnt have the server capacity to support everyone that got that -blam!- for christmas, and thats garbage. do you know how pissed i wouldve been if i couldnt have played that game live after getting it for christmas? shows how much support you'll get from IGN.
and dont say there more than 3 million people trying to play it. like on halo 3 release night. bungies servers could handle that load they were ready for it. i guarantee in 2 years people will still playing the hell outta halo 3, and they will be making a new COD just to keep up.
and i'll be playing that new COD and having more fun with it than i ever had with halo 3. halo 3's multiplayer got to the point where it was more frustrating than fun. broken melee, lag, campers, broken snipe, bad maps and bad ranking system are great for some i guess, but i think i'll keep playing COD.....a game that is fair and actually takes skill.

(halo 3 is not a bad game and has fun multiplayer, but gets old after awhile, and taking a break to play COD is just what i need)

  • 12.28.2007 2:28 PM PDT

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I now declare war against COD4 and Halo 3 one side of the forum will go on the halo 3 side and the other goes with COD4

  • 12.29.2007 8:13 AM PDT
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Halo is not a bad game. In fact it is a fantastic game! Its just right now is a great time for video games (probably best its ever been!), and it's not that Halo 3 is bad, the other games are just a little better.

  • 12.29.2007 9:33 AM PDT
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halo isnt a bad game theres just alot more choices for games to play on live

  • 12.29.2007 9:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: roaddog
He check out IGN's game of the year & First-Person Shooter of the year.

http://bestof.ign.com/2007/xbox360/24.html

Just goes to show you that the lack of depth in this years Halo 3 is startin to show its true colors. It basically Halo 2 but with better graphics. It's funny to see the amount of players online to begin with over 3 million people plumet to 45,000. I know I myself have referred Call of Duty 4 to at least 10 people that would have bought Halo 3. Sorry bungie but Halo is dead.

Is anybody interested in my Halo 3? I will sell it for free!


quoting IGN proves nothing other then that you don't know how to look for quality examples.

Have you even seen what the best action game of the year was?

Lost planet is not the best action game of the year.

  • 12.29.2007 9:56 AM PDT

Sigs are stupid.

Why are people always claiming that this or that will be "The Halo Killer"?
Why can't people play Gears, CoD and Halo? Is it such blasphemy?

I might be going crazy, but since when have video-game franchises become religion? FOLLOW OR BE SHUNNED!

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[Edited on 12.29.2007 10:03 AM PST]

  • 12.29.2007 10:02 AM PDT