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Subject: The answer of life. (A new theory)
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"Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos"
"I came, I saw, I castrated the bastards."

Ok. For my theory to work we must assume that the universe is infinite. We already know this because universe means 1 ultimate thing. If the universe was not infinite then you could leave the universe but you cannot leave the universe because once you leave it you are nowhere. Therefore the universe is infinite. Now if lets try to find out the average amount of life forms in the universe. This would be a big number divided by infinity. According to the laws of science and mathematics, anything divided by infinity is zero. Therefore there of zero life forms in this universe and so we do not exist.


But……………………..


If by some way you were to attempt to disprove this theory and hypothetically succeed then there is another problem. Let us say (hypothetically) that there are living beings in the universe. There could only be one such thing. If you try to find out the average space that one being takes up you would have to divide infinity by a large number. Because (according to the laws of science and mathematics) infinity divided by anything is infinity. This would mean that each being would take up an infinite space. The only infinite space is the universe. Therefore each being takes up a universe. But there is only one universe meaning that there can only be one living being.


So this leaves us with 2 answers to life. Either there is no such thing as life or there is only one life form. The second answer leads us to another question, who is this life form?
It doesn’t really matter because we don’t exist. So you and I are not alive unless one of us is that one being.

  • 01.02.2005 8:00 AM PDT
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we all know what the answer is buddy its 42

  • 01.02.2005 8:03 AM PDT

It was a cold day near the southern base in Blood Gulch. Cortana and I were relaxing over a game of Go Fish, WHEN OUT OF NO WHERE 700 BANSHEES CAME FLYING IN!!! I GRABED MY SPARTAN LASER AND LET HELL REIGN DOWN UPON THEM. I HOPPED IN THE NEAREST WARTHOG AND TOLD CORTANA TO GET IN.

Nope, you see I am the only life form. I know that I can think, and that you are simply a figment of my imagination trying to entertain me.

  • 01.02.2005 8:05 AM PDT

Devil is Double is Deuce and Joker always trumps Deuce.

Ugh, it's too early in the morning for intelliegent thinking. Before noon all I think about is scratch head, watch football, post in New Mombasa.

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Look Neo's into eyes sorry, but im the one) i am that one surpeme being and i you off this rock now

[Edited on 1/2/2005 8:09:03 AM]

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Posted by: Kendoboy
we all know what the answer is buddy its 42

the guy's right. not only is it the answer to life, its the answer to life, the universe, and everything. so i win.

  • 01.02.2005 8:10 AM PDT
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"Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos"
"I came, I saw, I castrated the bastards."

Ahhhhhhh. But how do you know if you are the one. Everyone may think that they are the one but they are not unless they can prove it. I go by the good theory that I made up that everyone is non-existant until proven existant. There fore unless you can prove that you are fully existant you mare not. You cannoit say that you are because you think. You could be the imagination of someone making you think, Therefore you think that you think when really someone is thinking of you thinking that you think. I have a fealling that the one living thing is a Bungie Ninja. That or someone else we non-existants know nothing of.

[Edited on 1/2/2005 8:14:29 AM]

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Awesome! This is exciting. Check out the link in my sig.

I know it hasn't got much to do with your theory but this is my theory:

We live in a 3 dimensional universe. To represent this, imagine stepping back a dimension, so our 3-dimensional universe is represented by a 2-dimensional membrane, and time (the 4th dimension) is represented by 3 dimensions.
According to Einstein, gravity is caused by large masses creating a 3 dimensional dent in our 2D membrane, therefore drawing in matter around it. A black hole would create a hugely steep and deep dent in our membrane that no matter or light or even space or time could escape from. If there are parrallel universes (represented by more 2D membranes side by side, like the sheets of paper in a book), and supposing there was matter so dense that it made a huge dent in space and penetrated the next universe. This would be a "super hole" and due to the process of diffusion, the matter from the membrane universe with more matter in it would flow through the hole and into the next universe. This would appear in the next universe as a "white hole", or, to express it another way, a huge explosion of matter, space, time and light from a small place. Sound familiar?
Now, supposing the membrane universes were connected like a roll of tape in a huge loop, this would mean that time is infact a loop, that continues infinitely. A "super hole" connected to 2 places in the loop would cause matter transfer through time, for example matter/time/space/light would flow from the time of the "big crunch" (if it happens) to the time of the big bang. THis would effectivley mean that time travel is possible.

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heh sorry to enter religeous talk but could this be the theory that proves that god exists?

  • 01.02.2005 8:20 AM PDT
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"Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos"
"I came, I saw, I castrated the bastards."

But still if the big crunch happens the universe will still be the same size. It will be smaller than it was but it shall still be the same size. It will always be infinite because eveything outside of it is nothing. One the big crunch happens it will shrink while staying infinite. The other theory is the big rip. In which the universe (which is expanding but is still infinite) rips up. Also we do not live in a 3d world. Everything is 4d even if it is not 3d. Every drawing you have still has a time and space. And to think (if we actually could think) that I (if the thought talking was actually alive) am just a 14 year old boy (if there actually are genders).

Also, don't enter religion on Bungie. Although I be religious don't talk about it or this thread will be locked.

[Edited on 1/2/2005 8:21:45 AM]

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Posted by: Pyrojoe
Also we do not live in a 3d world. Everything is 4d even if it is not 3d.


Indeed, I seem to have overlooked that fact
*Puffs on bubble pipe*

But as humans, the world appears to be 3D because we can only interact with it in 3 dimensions. For example, we can jump up and down, left and right, forward and backwards, but we cannot jump "forwards" or "backwards" in time.

  • 01.02.2005 8:27 AM PDT
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"Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos"
"I came, I saw, I castrated the bastards."

But we are constantly jumping forwards in time every moment. It is now the future of what ids now the past but was then the present. We have jumped forward in time. The 4th dimension is probably the greatest most used dimension.

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We are not "jumping" forward in time, we are moving at a steady speed. Suppose you were a 4 dimensional creature looking at our universe. You would see a flat membrane, like a sheet of paper, moving along through nothingness.
Actually, come to think about it, we cannot tell if we are moving throught time steadily or not. For all we know, our universe could be experiencing huge fluctuations in its velocity throught time, and we cannot know because if time goes quickly, then our brain speed goes quickly too, interpreting the speed difference as normal.
*puffs on bubble pipe*

I should really get a bubble pipe, then I could actually do it. How great would that be?

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well does this mean that the other times didnt exist or perhaps time itself dosnt exist its just changing space.

  • 01.02.2005 8:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: Peanuts a Plenty
We are not "jumping" forward in time, we are moving at a steady speed. Suppose you were a 4 dimensional creature looking at our universe. You would see a flat membrane, like a sheet of paper, moving along through nothingness.
Actually, come to think about it, we cannot tell if we are moving throught time steadily or not. For all we know, our universe could be experiencing huge fluctuations in its velocity throught time, and we cannot know because if time goes quickly, then our brain speed goes quickly too, interpreting the speed difference as normal.
*puffs on bubble pipe*

I should really get a bubble pipe, then I could actually do it. How great would that be?



I see your point. But the 4th dimension is not just jumping forwards and backwards. We are constantly experiencing the present. And though we are not "jumping" forward into time we are moving forward.


But, could we simply be moving forward in time at a steady pace not actually doing anything that we see but moving forward and therefore doing it. What I am saying is that we may not be doing any actions. We may just be moving forward in time at a steady pace, thereby having actions done to us. It is like the old Russian thingy. In Soviet Union you do not loisten to music, music lestens to you. Instead this is in the universe you don't do actions, actions do you. I don't know if that made any grammatical sense but it is good to finally have an intelligent conversation with someone who doesn't think thaty I am crazy.

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you relise this is going turn into this huge religous war thread right??

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I probably understand all that, but I'm too lazy to think about it.

Besides, the real answer is 42.

  • 01.02.2005 10:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: Gamma77
you relise this is going turn into this huge religous war thread right??


I hope it doesn't. That is not the point of this thread. The point is the we do not exist and I would like to hear other peoples views on this theory.

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Thats a nice theory, but in words it doesn't make too much sense. There very well could be an end to the universe. I mean, it's not impossible. We don't know that we can't leave the universe. Either way the real answers are more than likely to complex for us to comprehend.
P.S. You should watch that thing they showed on NOVA about the string theory. I thought it was very interesting.

  • 01.02.2005 10:08 AM PDT

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Posted by: Kendoboy
we all know what the answer is buddy its 42

the guy's right. not only is it the answer to life, its the answer to life, the universe, and everything. so i win.

But do you really know what the question is? Of course we don't know what the question is, but 42 is definately the answer. Which completely disproves your theory.

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if we dont exsist they what are we?

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Posted by: Shishka
Everything will be gone long before me. When the first living thing was born, I was here, waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job is finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave.

By any chance did any of you guys watch that Elegant Univerese thing on Dec. 28. That talked about a lot of the stuff you guys are saying. Except the main point was that scientist came up with this new thereory(sp?) that says everything is made up of tiny strings, that look like rubber bands and move constantly. It was really interesting. there was more but, i don't want to explaine it all.for more info on 'strings'
P.S. it's what woc cixelsed said in his P.S.

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  • 01.02.2005 10:16 AM PDT
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"Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos"
"I came, I saw, I castrated the bastards."

42, eh? I am not sure but I believe that that is from Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy. Haven't read that since 3rd grade or something. All I read was that and Mostly Harmless. I may start to read the rest.

To answer the aboves questions we don't know if we are just a thought or absolutly nothing. Some sort of phenomena that is really nothing. As to how the universe is infinite, if something is impossible to leave because if you leave it you are nowhere and therefore cannot be there the place must be infinite. There is no number outside of infinity and there is no place outside of the universe. Hence the universe is infinite yet expanding.

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Posted by: Shishka
Everything will be gone long before me. When the first living thing was born, I was here, waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job is finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave.

What if we really are figments of some1's imagination. That's freaky.

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Posted by: Pyrojoe
Posted by: Gamma77
you relise this is going turn into this huge religous war thread right??


I hope it doesn't. That is not the point of this thread. The point is the we do not exist and I would like to hear other peoples views on this theory.

but i do exist i think their for i am

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