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i just watched something on string theroy last night, to much thinking. im done with thinking for awile

  • 01.02.2005 10:31 AM PDT
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Posted by: amazedsatsuma

but i do exist i think their for i am


But what if you are not thinking. What if somwthing is thinking about you thinking which means that you are not thinking meaning you are non-existant.

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Posted by: Gamma77
you relise this is going turn into this huge religous war thread right??


I hope it doesn't. That is not the point of this thread. The point is the we do not exist and I would like to hear other peoples views on this theory.

but i do exist i think their for i am



Posted by: madcoconut
i just watched something on string theroy last night, to much thinking. im done with thinking for awile


then you will no longer exist, is that the price you want to pay

  • 01.02.2005 10:33 AM PDT
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But none of us exist.

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Posted by: Pyrojoe
Ok. For my theory to work we must assume that the universe is infinite. We already know this because universe means 1 ultimate thing. If the universe was not infinite then you could leave the universe but you cannot leave the universe because once you leave it you are nowhere. Therefore the universe is infinite. Now if lets try to find out the average amount of life forms in the universe. This would be a big number divided by infinity. According to the laws of science and mathematics, anything divided by infinity is zero. Therefore there of zero life forms in this universe and so we do not exist.


But……………………..


If by some way you were to attempt to disprove this theory and hypothetically succeed then there is another problem. Let us say (hypothetically) that there are living beings in the universe. There could only be one such thing. If you try to find out the average space that one being takes up you would have to divide infinity by a large number. Because (according to the laws of science and mathematics) infinity divided by anything is infinity. This would mean that each being would take up an infinite space. The only infinite space is the universe. Therefore each being takes up a universe. But there is only one universe meaning that there can only be one living being.


So this leaves us with 2 answers to life. Either there is no such thing as life or there is only one life form. The second answer leads us to another question, who is this life form?
It doesn’t really matter because we don’t exist. So you and I are not alive unless one of us is that one being.


mabey....the one will come to Zion and save all of humanity from the machines! Hurry! we must find Neo! (some matrix hummor)

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and yet we do at the same time

your math is very remenisant you dont actualy do the right calculations and many bits of little information is missing so you are way of if you actualy think about it but you still make an intresting point

anywho how do we know the universe is infinete? can you actulay prove it?

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Posted by: Pyrojoe
But none of us exist...except the great amazedsatsuma

stop being a downer



[Edited on 1/2/2005 10:37:09 AM]

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Posted by: Shishka
Everything will be gone long before me. When the first living thing was born, I was here, waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job is finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave.

Pyrojoe, i think you should watch that NOVA show. It's on at 1:30p.m. Central Time today. I don't know what station it's on for you guys but it's on channel 2 or 3 for me, and I live in Iowa.

[Edited on 1/2/2005 10:38:16 AM]

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Posted by: ODST27
Pyrojoe, i think you should watch that NOVA show. It's on at 1:30p.m. Central Time today. I don't know what station it's on for you guys but it's on channel 2 or 3 for me, and I live in Iowa.
i just watched that last night

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Posted by: amazedsatsuma
Posted by: Pyrojoe
But none of us exist...not even the great amazedsatsuma




Exactly.


Posted by: Kendoboy
and yet we do at the same time

your math is very remenisant you dont actualy do the right calculations and many bits of little information is missing so you are way of if you actualy think about it but you still make an intresting point

anywho how do we know the universe is infinete? can you actulay prove it?


Would you mind telling me what part of my math is wrong. As I have said many times before how the universe is infinite.

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consider this math dosnt exist its a figment of most imaginations it was invented its not an actual thing just like time isnt an actual thing a clock was made, so was the minute and along with that math not at the same time or in that particuler order

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Posted by: Shishka
Everything will be gone long before me. When the first living thing was born, I was here, waiting. When the last living thing dies, my job is finished. I'll put the chairs on the tables, turn out the lights and lock the universe behind me when I leave.

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Pyrojoe, i think you should watch that NOVA show. It's on at 1:30p.m. Central Time today. I don't know what station it's on for you guys but it's on channel 2 or 3 for me, and I live in Iowa.
i just watched that last night


And it's on Tuesday, same channel.

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Posted by: Pyrojoe
Posted by: amazedsatsuma
Posted by: Pyrojoe

But none of us exist...except the great amazedsatsuma



Posted by: lysergicide
Actually the answer to life is death.


Exactly.





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Posted by: Kendoboy
consider this math dosnt exist its a figment of most imaginations it was invented its not an actual thing just like time isnt an actual thing a clock was made, so was the minute and along with that math not at the same time or in that particuler order


We all know that math only exists in our heads and on paper but meither does a number. All we know then is that there are lots of stuff in the universe. But the universe is infinite. Infinity may be a thing we made up but it still means never-ending. The universe is infinite because you cannot leave it. If you leave it you are nowhere. Therefore the universe is infinite. Now if you take something and divide it by something infinite it will be zero. It will be as non-existant as a number that is not on paper or in our heads.

When I say paper I mean anything that you can write on. Just so people don't say you can write it on a chalkboard.

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it wont be zero itll be a realy small number but not zero you cant devide anything into zero its just going to be realy -blam!- tiny

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"Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos"
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Except with the number infinity, because it is infinite, you must replace it with something else. In fact you replace it with its exact opposite. I think that I said that already, maybe not. You would have to replace it with nullset. Nullset divided by anything is nullset meaning nonexistant. Because we are talknig in terms of life this would instead translate to zero because it we are non-existant.

Even if you prove this part wrong, what about the second part. The theory that there is one living thing and the rest is non-existant.

BTW, I think this is so far a good conversation. Meaning it is actually intelligent. Most people in my grade say that I am too smart.

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dont confuse intelect with book smart those are two very very diffrent things but its nice to have both which you do seem to have for the time being

anywho like i said if there is one perosn who controles everything and is the defenition of life i would have to say god not in the religeous since but purly scientific god could be the only answer.

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There is not an infinite number of living things just a continuelly increasing number.

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What? I don't exist? Damn, I was just starting to enjoy myself...

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Aw, man *Disappears in a puff of logic*

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Posted by: Utillity Moose
There is not an infinite number of living things just a continuelly increasing number.


Exactly. But the universe is infinite.

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i would say that the amount of beings is decreasing but i dont realy know

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It seams then if this is true, then we have come up with not the meaning of life, but the true definition to it.

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Posted by: ParamitePie
Aw, man *Disappears in a puff of logic*


Hahahaha! Great Hitchhiker's Guide reference there.

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