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Subject: Why Halo beats Halo 3
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Posted by: kidshummerspy
u know why halo3 is worse because it has rich bastards and noobs there they think theyer coll just for having a brand new series. plus they get away from 1,000s of pros so if u play halo3 u play with noobs or u r 1 then stop reading or u r consisdered a idiot looking at stuff that u shouldnt look at. they think theyer so cool by hiding from pros and powning even more noobs i could imajine it me getting it powning noobs all day long lol.but serious they should acualy make it harder for the noobs that think theyer cool.just because the pros cant get it dosent mean that they wont get it in the future.
There's only one thing that could be said to a message with a caliber of incoherence that high:
WHAT?

  • 05.03.2008 8:55 PM PDT

I definately think they should make a remake of halo, but with better graphics.

  • 05.09.2008 4:56 AM PDT

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quite frankly, I don't see how that is possible. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if a monitor can recieve the video feed from an xbox and any other game, it shouldn't have any problems as it is just displaying data fed to it. The only way there would be a problem was if you had some sort of issue with the settings on the monitor being improperly set up or there's a problem with the xbox itself, as far as I am aware.
I believe there is an issue with the refresh rate on the PAL version of the game. It's not something we experience with the NTSC version.

Yes that's pretty much it. Most old PAL xbox games like halo do not support PAL-60, which is necessary for using the VGA output.

  • 05.09.2008 5:25 AM PDT

Posted by: scruss

It has to be said, gameplay > story. Always. Gameplay first, story second.


That is a matter of opinion. I myself much prefer story over gameplay. If I am not sucked in by the story I personally have no ambition, and do not care if I even finish the game. Now gameplay does aid the story in some cases and that is a great thing. Halo's story is the only reason I play any Halo game. The visuals and gameplay mechanics for me could equal that of the original quake and I would still play it if the story was solid.

With halo ce I was sucked in from the first cutscene. I immediately went out and purchased all the books I could pertaining to the story. Now, the gameplay was great I thought. I enjoyed shooting at the enemeis and being shot at. I think the reason I personally enjoy halo ce so much more than the other 2 is because I was introduced to the fiction and characters of Halo with ce, so I feel closer to the story.

One of the reasons I couldn't get into the story in halo 2 was because of the constant jumping around between locations and characters. I felt as though I wasn't making a difference in the game/story with halo 2. In halo ce I was mostly on the ring and could relate to previous locations saying "Wow, this looks like the canyon I just freed some soldiers from not an hour ago." Things like that always suck me into a game.

So depending on personal preferences, I say Story > Gameplay.

I strongly disagree with you on story and gameplay because ultimately I'm playing a game and not reading a book.

However your opinions on the actual games I still agree with, cool huh?

  • 05.09.2008 5:25 AM PDT

agree

  • 05.15.2008 1:48 PM PDT
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  • 05.15.2008 3:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: blunts2blaze

I'm not saying that Halo 3 is a bad game. It's pretty good to be honest. But it is nowhere near Halo 1.


Maybe you should be stating real points and researching before you make a flamebait post.



and maybe you should actually read all the forum posts, noob. more than 65% of the responders agree with blunts2blaze. check your facts.

  • 05.15.2008 5:12 PM PDT
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They should make a Halo CE multiplayer maps, and sell it as the super lengendary heroic map pack

  • 05.16.2008 10:17 PM PDT

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I wish they would make a remake of Halo: CE with updated graphics and XBOX Live support. I think it would bring a lot of hardcore Halo players back. The original was, IMO, better in both campaign and multiplayer. Anyone who has played Halo for PC definitely remembers the 3 hour long CTF Classic matches on Blood Gulch and Sidewinder.

And nobody played for rank, skill levels, achievements, or new armor permutations. Just nothing but fun and bragging rights were your rewards. That's what made the multiplayer fun. Nobody playing 15 minute matches to rank up as fast as possible. You got nothing out of the games except a generally great experience. Unfortunately Halo doesn't seem to be about that anymore in the multiplayer department, at least in my opinion.

On top of that the campaign just blows the other 2 games out of the water. Halo 3 came close, and could be called a worthy successor if it just lasted longer and if the story was told more thoroughly. It all seemed rushed to me.

Halo: CE was something special. It had vitually no features or anything that some other game didn't already have. It just executed everything so damn good and created an unforgettable experience. The series is still awesome, but I think it lost that core "feel" that the original Halo had. Just my two cents.

  • 05.17.2008 9:17 PM PDT

Posted by: blunts2blaze
Music is better in Halo 1 just because it's classic. There's so many ugly remixes of Halo songs in Halo 3 that it makes me puke.
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Are you high? The music in Halo 3 seems more epic than Halo 1. I like the genuine orchestra better than the guitar and other junk

  • 05.18.2008 11:14 AM PDT
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Posted by: halo2vista
Posted by: blunts2blaze
Music is better in Halo 1 just because it's classic. There's so many ugly remixes of Halo songs in Halo 3 that it makes me puke.
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Are you high? The music in Halo 3 seems more epic than Halo 1. I like the genuine orchestra better than the guitar and other junk
...Halo 3 had electric guitars with distortion. Combat Evolved was the game with the genuine orchestra and the classical instruments, thankyouverymuch. You hear monks chanting instead of guitar solos riffs in the first game, last time I checked..

  • 05.18.2008 12:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: blunts2blaze
Music is better in Halo 1 just because it's classic. There's so many ugly remixes of Halo songs in Halo 3 that it makes me puke.
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Are you high? The music in Halo 3 seems more epic than Halo 1. I like the genuine orchestra better than the guitar and other junk
...Halo 3 had electric guitars with distortion. Combat Evolved was the game with the genuine orchestra and the classical instruments, thankyouverymuch. You hear monks chanting instead of guitar solos riffs in the first game, last time I checked..
Heh, I miss the orchestral music in Halo. In particularly, Final Run(Two Betrayals) and the opening cut-scene from The Maw. Personally, those are the two best pieces of music from the entire series. Too bad only 1, the music from Final Run, was included in Halo 3.

  • 05.18.2008 6:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Master Kim
Halo 3 had electric guitars with distortion. Combat Evolved was the game with the genuine orchestra and the classical instruments, thankyouverymuch. You hear monks chanting instead of guitar solos riffs in the first game, last time I checked..

I don't remember any electric guitar in 3.... loads in 2 though.

I'm pretty sure the music in 1 was synthesised, not a real orchestra.

  • 05.19.2008 9:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: Master Kim
Halo 3 had electric guitars with distortion. Combat Evolved was the game with the genuine orchestra and the classical instruments, thankyouverymuch. You hear monks chanting instead of guitar solos riffs in the first game, last time I checked..

I don't remember any electric guitar in 3.... loads in 2 though.

I'm pretty sure the music in 1 was synthesised, not a real orchestra.
Yeah, I was having second thoughts. I think classical instruments were used though.

  • 05.19.2008 11:55 AM PDT

Maybe it's not all the pieces... but go back and listen, some of them definitely have that MIDI feel to them compared to later music.

  • 05.20.2008 5:50 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Halo CE campaign is the most entertaining of any FPS. But Halo 3 multiplayer wins.

  • 05.25.2008 7:08 PM PDT

somewhere in the heavens...they are waiting. I love the Marathon Trilogy.
Halo CE will always be the best game in the Halo franchise. What a perfect game.
(Proud LONGTIME owner of the PC and Xbox versions of Halo CE)

Halo 3 has the best multiplayer features, but Halo 1 just seemed more fun to play, and lets not forget its epic campaign.

  • 05.26.2008 2:39 PM PDT

Speaking of music, I finally found the music from Last Run on Two Betrayals. I found it an odd place to find it....

  • 05.26.2008 2:45 PM PDT
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Haha! You must be drunk! There's no absolute WAY Halo 1 is better then Halo 3!
Posted by: blunts2blaze
I know we're all sick of CoD4 vs. Halo 3 so let's stick to a more overlooked aspect.

Halo 1 is better than Halo 3.

As dumb as it sounds it's true. Halo 3 may have forge and a great multi-player on XBL, but Halo: CE warrants more replay than Halo 3.

Let's take Campaign from H1 and H3 into comparison: Not only is Halo 1 Campaign better, it gives so much room to explore. Every large level in Halo 3 has a rediculous amount of invisible barriers creating a cramped environment on a huge level. The level Covenant is a piss ant put against AoTCR. Especially on Legendary. Playing Covenant is forced and rough around the edges. Control Room is huge and so fun to play. You can grab a tank or a banshee or a warthog or a ghost. You're not forced to a damn Hornet.

Obviously graphics aren't up for comparison. So we'll pass that up.

Music is better in Halo 1 just because it's classic. There's so many ugly remixes of Halo songs in Halo 3 that it makes me puke.

The A.I. in Halo 1 seems to be smarter than the guys in Halo 3. The marines know whats going on and don't drive away with your warthog [ or destroy you while you're in it]. Elite A.I. [and Elites in general] is a more enjoyable adversary than any Brute in Halo 3.

The diagnosis: Halo 3 overdosed on too much new stuff. Too many weapons [however I was very pleased to see the pistol and AR return]. Too many vehicles that have no real use [aside from the chopper]. Sure the jacking system was a cool addition, but Halo 2 already pulled that out.

Obviously online play goes to Halo 3, but multiplayer goes to Halo 1. XBC and LAN battles were plenty more exciting than the Halo 3 XBL. No wonder numbers of gamers on H3 have dwindled online from 500,000 to 50,000. Everyone has gone back to H1 or Cod4. I know I have.

I'm not saying that Halo 3 is a bad game. It's pretty good to be honest. But it is nowhere near Halo 1.

  • 05.27.2008 8:15 PM PDT

‮‮Awesax

Halo is the original recipe chicken.

  • 05.29.2008 3:01 AM PDT
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story and gameplay are equally important to me, and halo CE had an awesome-ness amount of both.
halo 2 lacked good story and less gameplay than CE, but H3 increased the story, just not as much as CE and the gameplay was way better than H2 and bout equal or ever so slightly less than CE

  • 05.29.2008 8:13 PM PDT
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i agree, but halo 1 campaign is a lot scarier than halo 3's. but in halo 3 they develop characters a bit more.

  • 05.30.2008 11:19 AM PDT
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I think halo 3 is great, probably the best fps out on consoles right now, but it should have been so much better. Personally I think Halo 1 had the best multiplayer, because the lack of xbox live forces you to invite people you know to your house to have a game with you, which automatically makes the experience much better than playing with the losers that make up halo 3 matchmaking.

Also, with halo 3 they tried to make it so everyone could pick the game up and be successful to some degree (it is the 360s flagship game, so it has to be accessible), however, the changes they made meant that it is really difficult to get really good at halo 3 unless you play something like mlg (which still has a skill cap on the individual player), and this limits the enjoyment for the geeks like me who like to master a game.

In Halo 1, even my dad could play with us if we were a man down and he got on fine, as the simplicity of the game (few weapons that are easy to use, no grenade jumps, etc.) meant it was easy to pick up, but if he faced me 1v1 (I consider myself to be pretty good at the game) I could beat him 15nil - something that is almost impossible to achieve in a halo 3 match with standard rules.

If halo 3 had stuck with the Halo: CE formula but applied to a grander scale with better graphics, online support, more maps and the forge/saved films features rather than making a slow-paced game for pre-teens who need that rank 50 to boost their self-esteem it would definitely have been the best game ever. I know it sounds like I am being really critical of halo 3, but i still think its a great game, but I am just disappointed that bungie didn't fulfill the potential it had when making a sequel to Halo:CE.

  • 05.30.2008 12:28 PM PDT

somewhere in the heavens...they are waiting. I love the Marathon Trilogy.
Halo CE will always be the best game in the Halo franchise. What a perfect game.
(Proud LONGTIME owner of the PC and Xbox versions of Halo CE)

Microsoft did a lot of tampering with the Halo 3 story so it wasn't what it was supposed to be i've read the offical Halo 3 script, it had starfighter battles!!!

  • 05.30.2008 5:30 PM PDT