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Subject: Why Halo beats Halo 3

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I'm glad this got above the other one. When I try to post it says I'm in the Halo 3 forum, is this normal?

  • 08.21.2008 6:02 AM PDT

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We have to kill animals or else they'll die.
Food chain and all that.
Question: Would you ever become a vegetarian?
Answer: God no, who on earth would eat a poor defenseless vegetable? An animal can at least defend itself.

Halo can't be better Halo 3, because if it were, then Bungie wouldn't have released it until it was much better. I admit that the Campaign in Halo was much better, but all of the newer aspects in Halo 3 more than make up for the Campaign. Also, you can still do those System Network and LAN matches in Halo 3. So therefore, Halo 3 is better, overall.


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  • 08.21.2008 1:56 PM PDT
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Halo 3 is a good game, but cannot beat the classic. If Halo 1 had live, I wouldn't ever touch Halo 3 or any other game for that matter. Halo 1 defines skill in an FPS, while Halo 3 is similar to the "I have the better weapon, I win the battle" type of game play that Halo 2 had. Halo 3 feels like it has all these new features, but at its core the game play is overly simplistic and geared towards people not old enough to play M rated games (and usually they are too young to play T rated games).

I like Halo 3, but don't find it nearly as entertaining as Halo 1 continues to be for me. In fact, I have been playing Shadowrun more than Halo 3 because it seems to be more about skill than Halo 3 and is more tactical than any Halo game. I play Halo 1 whenever I have friends over, because the map designs and game play are better than any other thing on a microsoft console. If you don't believe me, play Halo 1 with a bunch of friends for a few hours. You should see the difference immediately.

  • 08.21.2008 4:19 PM PDT


Ranking systems have taken all joy from Halo games.


QFT!!!!!!

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  • 08.21.2008 4:35 PM PDT

Posted by: Vehicle Master
Halo can't be better Halo 3, because if it were, then Bungie wouldn't have released it until it was much better.
There are a few things to consider here. Perhaps Bungie tried to make Halo 3 better than Halo. That doesn't mean they succeeded. Not all attempts are successful. There is something else to consider as well. The problem with sequels is that they must strike the balance between staying true to the original and being original themselves. Halo had simplicity while maintaining a learning curve. That was the brilliance of Halo: CE. This makes a sequel much more difficult than most games. New features are expected; this hurts simplicity. They also want to maximize the profit from this game. Learning curves hurt mass appeal. They try to aim for the lowest common denominator here. The strengths of Halo are the complete opposite of sequel goals. Taking that into consideration, Bungie did a good job with Halo 2 and 3. Halo 2 didn't stay as true to the original as many would have hoped, and Halo 3 attempted to please fans of Halo, Halo 2, and also achieve mass appeal. However, I don't really care about the "why;" I care about the quality of the game, and Halo: CE is a better game than either of its successors. Bungie has done a decent job of striking that sequel balance, but balance has never been the source of greatness. Compromise is just that: compromise. You're not achieving excellence in the eyes of any particular group; you're simply producing something that is acceptable to a lot of groups. I admit that the Campaign in Halo was much better, but all of the newer aspects in Halo 3 more than make up for the Campaign. Also, you can still do those System Network and LAN matches in Halo 3. So therefore, Halo 3 is better, overall.That's quite a logical jump that you made there. Yes, Halo 3 supports system link games. However, that doesn't mean it's better. The gameplay is still inferior no matter how you play the game. It's still a game built on top of compromise. Sure, it has some cool new features, but they don't make up for the inferior gameplay. Some of those features actually hurt the gameplay.

  • 08.22.2008 7:08 AM PDT

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I wouldn't know about multiplayer, but I personally think that Halo: CE campaign was better. The environments were just more open, allowing more opportunities to try different tactics. In Halo 3 campaign, on the other hand, the levels aren't as open. The path that you take through each level is much too linear. Also, the Elites were smarter and more challenging than any Brute.

  • 08.22.2008 8:49 AM PDT

Posted by: blunts2blaze
No wonder numbers of gamers on H3 have dwindled online from 500,000 to 50,000.


God that is filled with so much stupidity that it feels like someone is boring a hole into my skull.
When I turn on Halo 3 there are normally 250,000-310,000 people online at once.

  • 08.22.2008 2:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: blunts2blaze
No wonder numbers of gamers on H3 have dwindled online from 500,000 to 50,000.


God that is filled with so much stupidity that it feels like someone is boring a hole into my skull.
When I turn on Halo 3 there are normally 250,000-310,000 people online at once.
It's an exaggeration, ever heard of it?

  • 08.23.2008 7:50 AM PDT
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I actually remember in H1 being flanked by Covenant and out of nowhere like 5 marines show up and snipe everyone, I was impressed...

  • 08.27.2008 8:37 PM PDT

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Yes, the Marines were competent.

  • 08.31.2008 6:07 AM PDT

Chill out - dude, you really need to

Bring back Final Run!

I gotta say, every time a new level came up on Halo 2 and Halo 3 i'd be shooting my way through it hoping it would somehow be as good as Assault on the Control Room. But it's just not possible, that's the greatest level of all time.

Bungie did so well with Halo 1, it was always gonna be tough to follow because every sequel will inevitably be compared to everything in the game.

  • 09.01.2008 3:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: Rainmann7
I gotta say, every time a new level came up on Halo 2 and Halo 3 i'd be shooting my way through it hoping it would somehow be as good as Assault on the Control Room. But it's just not possible, that's the greatest level of all time.

Bungie did so well with Halo 1, it was always gonna be tough to follow because every sequel will inevitably be compared to everything in the game.

agreed.
h2 was a decent sequal, at least to multiplayer and campaign, i guess.
h3 has too many "you found something that would be asome to jump down to? death barrier 1 foot above it. lol"
that one glitch with no enemies on AotCR. awsome. so much more to do.

  • 09.01.2008 5:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: spartan11bungie
Posted by: Rainmann7
I gotta say, every time a new level came up on Halo 2 and Halo 3 i'd be shooting my way through it hoping it would somehow be as good as Assault on the Control Room. But it's just not possible, that's the greatest level of all time.

Bungie did so well with Halo 1, it was always gonna be tough to follow because every sequel will inevitably be compared to everything in the game.

agreed.
h2 was a decent sequal, at least to multiplayer and campaign, i guess.
h3 has too many "you found something that would be asome to jump down to? death barrier 1 foot above it. lol"
that one glitch with no enemies on AotCR. awsome. so much more to do.
Could you link a video of that? I love the Grunts freezing glitch.

  • 09.03.2008 12:30 PM PDT
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halo 1 campaign kind of sucks cause every time you fight the flood were you have to follow the monitor flood spawns all around you and it takes a long time for the monitor to open the doors

  • 09.03.2008 5:42 PM PDT
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At least the campaign was actually challenging.

  • 09.03.2008 6:07 PM PDT

That's the point. Every time 343 GS leaves, you have to hold on for dear life.

Oh, Donkey? He's talking about bypassing the lift rooms by getting a 'shee on the bridge.

  • 09.04.2008 5:52 AM PDT
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11/9/04 - 4/15/10

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Posted by: II7 Masterchief
I agree man 100 percent. Halo 3 isnt a bad game but it isn't half as good as the original. I would pay 100 bucks for HALO with online multiplayer.

I would too.

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  • 09.04.2008 3:18 PM PDT
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Halo 1 online is AMAZING. Thanks bungie for releasing a custom edition too, huge ass is the best map with the longswords nuking each other..

  • 09.05.2008 5:29 AM PDT

H1 gameplay > H3 gameplay
H3 features > H1 features

If Halo 1 just had online abilities it would easily beat out Halo 3 reguardless of matchmaking.

  • 09.07.2008 7:30 PM PDT

Posted by: Vehicle Master
Halo can't be better Halo 3, because if it were, then Bungie wouldn't have released it until it was much better.

Eeek! Appeal to authority.

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  • 09.08.2008 6:19 AM PDT

Posted by: RhythmKiller
Posted by: Vehicle Master
Halo can't be better Halo 3, because if it were, then Bungie wouldn't have released it until it was much better.

Eeek! Appeal to authority.

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Eeek! Assumption that companies are willing to ignore gigantifical piles of CA$H!

  • 09.08.2008 12:19 PM PDT
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One of the things about the halo CE campaign that i liked that they didnt have in halo 3 is the flood being creepy. On the level 343 guilty spark i was seriously creeped out at the epic part with private jenkins and the flood.
In halo 3 its like "Oh no. Some flood. Ima kill them. Hooray. They're dead. Lets go get pizza."

  • 10.05.2008 4:58 PM PDT
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Halo 1 for Xbox Live. It must be done.

  • 10.05.2008 5:51 PM PDT
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Halo 1 for Xbox Live. It must be done.


I concur.

  • 10.05.2008 6:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: II7 Masterchief
I agree man 100 percent. Halo 3 isnt a bad game but it isn't half as good as the original. I would pay 100 bucks for HALO with online multiplayer.
Agreed.

  • 10.05.2008 8:36 PM PDT