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to be honest i really dont like halo 1 halo 2 hooked me

  • 03.10.2009 8:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: chickenlittle
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that was a really good comparison. Although I don't agree with you I can respect the fact that you didn't jsut say 'halo 1 rocks, halo 3 sucks c_o_c_k_s.


Finally someone smart! But come on, Halo CE, in my opinion, did have a better Campaign.
That's not an opinion. :D
Yes, it is.

  • 03.11.2009 4:17 AM PDT
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i know its f awsome wtf fjhfshdf

  • 03.13.2009 4:51 PM PDT

your lucky you chose halo 1 and halo 3 instead of cod because now you don't have to worry about that fanboy aspect.

  • 03.15.2009 7:41 PM PDT

Posted by: kool guy yeah
your lucky you chose halo 1 and halo 3 instead of cod because now you don't have to worry about that fanboy aspect.
lol wut

That doesn't even make cents.

  • 03.16.2009 9:49 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

Posted by: chickenlittle
Posted by: kool guy yeah
your lucky you chose halo 1 and halo 3 instead of cod because now you don't have to worry about that fanboy aspect.
lol wut

That doesn't even make cents.


He is saying that you are lucky for choosing a computer game over a piece of fish.

  • 03.19.2009 1:41 AM PDT

Still doesn't make sense.

Halo 3 isn't for the computer.

  • 03.19.2009 2:31 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

Posted by: chickenlittle
Still doesn't make sense.

Halo 3 isn't for the computer.


Blimey you are picky today, ok a console game......

yes it doesn't make sense.

  • 03.19.2009 5:04 AM PDT

Posted by: Richomack360
Posted by: chickenlittle
Still doesn't make sense.

Halo 3 isn't for the computer.


Blimey you are picky today, ok a console game......

yes it doesn't make sense.
That is certainly an oxymoron.

  • 03.19.2009 10:46 AM PDT

Bungie Pentathlon - who actually cares ?

Posted by: chickenlittle
Posted by: Richomack360
Posted by: chickenlittle
Still doesn't make sense.

Halo 3 isn't for the computer.


Blimey you are picky today, ok a console game......

yes it doesn't make sense.
That is certainly an oxymoron.


Pretty much....

back on topic...Go Halo CE!

  • 03.20.2009 8:35 AM PDT

yes, the halo 1 campaign is awesome. now all bungie needs to do is release a multiplayer only halo CE with Xbox live support.

  • 03.22.2009 2:19 AM PDT
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This Thread makes so much sense. Halo's Campaign was clearly amazing and one of the best campaign games for 2 years straight. Halo's Multiplayer however is not as good as Halo 3's at all, but just the fact that System Linking was available at that time (and still is), made it really fun sometimes.

Overall, I say Halo is better than Halo 3 just because of how amazing, shocking, and wonderful the game was in 2002! (A game like that in 2002 is like Metal Gear Solid or something now for the PS3) Halo 3 was amazing, but not for it's current year, but just all the features that came alike from Halo 2.

I agree with the creator of this Thread that Halo is better than Halo 3...

  • 03.22.2009 8:29 AM PDT

Posted by: Old Skool Rob
Halo's Multiplayer however is not as good as Halo 3's at all, but just the fact that System Linking was available at that time (and still is), made it really fun sometimes.
The Halo: CE engine had better gameplay, and that allowed for a superior multiplayer experience. It had a superior weapon set, fall damage, and a better health system. The physics were also more fun, even if they were less realistic. While it lacked features, almost everything was done correctly. The Halo 3 multiplayer has more options, better menus, and live support. Unfortunately, it has inferior maps and inferior gameplay.

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Posted by: Old Skool Rob
Halo's Multiplayer however is not as good as Halo 3's at all, but just the fact that System Linking was available at that time (and still is), made it really fun sometimes.
The Halo: CE engine had better gameplay, and that allowed for a superior multiplayer experience. It had a superior weapon set, fall damage, and a better health system. The physics were also more fun, even if they were less realistic. While it lacked features, almost everything was done correctly. The Halo 3 multiplayer has more options, better menus, and live support. Unfortunately, it has inferior maps and inferior gameplay.

Yes, say if Halo had the features and abilities of Halo 3 (say if Halo was made in 2007 perhaps), then Halo would be much better than Halo 3.

In detail, Halo would have all the features Halo 3 does, but still have the same gameplay, fall damage, better health system, good weapon set, etc. Imagine how Halo would be with Halo 3 graphics however, clearly amazing. Halo could beat Halo 3 so well if it had the same graphics (current graphics), old gameplay and health, but current features and options (like Forge, Theater, new Custom Games, Matchmaking, etc).

Even now though, with Halo disabled with none of the features Halo 3 has, I still think it's better personally.

  • 03.22.2009 11:28 AM PDT

I still prefer Halo to Halo 3 now, but that would be amazing. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people prefer the new health system, weapon set, and lack of fall damage. The Halo 3 engine does seem to support fall damage. That makes me wonder if they'll produce another FPS that does have it. From a storyline standpoint, it would make sense that ODST would have it, but that's campaign only.

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Yeah, Halo #: ODST will definitely have the same, look, feel (but without energy shields and high jumping), and taste that Halo 3 had... But, it may bring back a little Halo 2 feel with the ODST(s) being targeted in this project.

  • 03.23.2009 5:44 PM PDT

Posted by: Old Skool Rob
Yeah, Halo #: ODST will definitely have the same, look, feel (but without energy shields and high jumping), and taste that Halo 3 had... But, it may bring back a little Halo 2 feel with the ODST(s) being targeted in this project.
Yeah. I was just questioning fall damage. Mark V didn't even protect from it. I wouldn't think the ODST would have protection from it, at least from a story standpoint.

  • 03.24.2009 10:58 AM PDT
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All my opinion.

Posted by: Astartes Marine
I stopped at "Halo 1 Marines smarter than Halo 3's..."

I haven't seen Halo 3 Marines shoot each other in the back yet 25 times in a single skirmish and afterwards yell "My bad!"...freaking idiots...and yes, they sometimes do use vehicles in Halo 1 (though very rarely, and for good reason), the Ghost for instance, and they will run you over with their non-existent driving skills.

For Halo 1's time, the AI is excellent. The marines suck in Halo 3. They can't drive, snipe, or do really anything. The only reason why the marines die in H1 is because of the hurt animations and small health, which is absent in H3.

The enemy AI in H3 is a disgrace to programmers everywhere. The AI does not work together and cheats to beat the player. In H1, it's all about intelligence and advantages, not unlimited ammo and knowing where the player is all of the time.

H1 > H3

  • 03.28.2009 1:06 PM PDT

Multiplayer Gameplay
Halo:CE------------------Reach--------Halo2-----------------H alo3
Campaign Experience
Reach----Halo:CE-----------------ODST-----Halo2---------Halo3

Glad that Halo 3 garbage is dead, thanks to Reach.
Unfreakenbelievable!!

First of all, many people's opinion will be biased based on their experiences. Those who simply did not get into Halo back in 2001 or 2002 will most likely disagree and lean towards H2 or H3 being the better game. However, I do believe those who really started with this classic have more of a say towards this debate.

Let me begin on my comparison, which most of which agrees with the OP...

Graphics and Features - Can't compare

Music - Overall, the music was more intriguing and pleasing to the ear in Halo:CE. However, I do enjoy the H2 version theme. Halo3's music selection is full of computer-aided remixes.

Campaign - The Halo 3's Campaign levels are mostly guided, without much creativity on what someone can do. Rather Halo:CE's gives you more options. I also got a much greater impact with Halo:CE. But, that tends to happen with a first of a series. As far as Legendary difficulty, I thought Halo:CE's was much harder and took longer. However, it is hard to say since Halo3 is the third of the series. Right now, I could probably go back and beat H1 Legendary within a day. Also, the H3 Campaign being easier could also be because there isn't really much option of what you need to do, therefore with patience can be completed without much trouble.

A.I. - I really think this has to do with the simplicity of Halo:CE's design. Rather with Halo 3, many of the designs in the game are complex, causing many possible flaws and errors. There being mostly Brutes to fight could also play a role as to why H1's A.I. seemed better. Brutes seem to just stand around or run at you. I don't think the A.I. overall is any smarter in H1 than H3, just better designed. Simplistic design is the way to go, Bungie. But, they have lost sight of that.

Multiplayer - This is a tough subject. I think for what Bungie strives for in their Default gametypes, Halo 3 is better balanced for enjoyable gameplay. However, with what many of us learned to enjoy (starting with the M6D), Halo:CE is much better balanced. Also, In Halo:CE's Multiplayer, when you missed a shot and lost a fight, you pretty much knew why all the time. I think H3's Multiplayer took a huge expense to gameplay when the amount of randomness was increased. This new dynamic to the experience, causes it to be extremely frustrating at times as compared to Halo:CE. Another point I have is that Vehicles, which have played a huge part in Halo, gave so much more to the experience with Halo:CE and they were better balanced for both on foot and on Vehicles, which is kind of why we now see so many anti-Vehicle tactics in Halo 3, with Vehicles now being so overpowered thanks to H2.

As far as the enjoyment factor is concerned, there is no doubt whatsoever which was the better experience. However, we must remember that Halo:CE was only played on LANs, while Halo 3 is mostly played in the nasty place that is the internet. Playing with friends make the experience more enjoyable regardless of gameplay.

Halo:CE was simple. Simple means less things will be frustrating. While Halo 3 has more features and options, it also offers much more flaws and complaints to distract from the enjoyment.

Halo:CE wins. I enjoyed Customs more in H1 than I do in Halo 3. But, fun is subjective.

  • 03.30.2009 12:48 AM PDT

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Please, more fanboys in this thread! I love when nostalgia gets in the way of unbiased analysis!

  • 03.30.2009 3:36 PM PDT

Posted by: Caragnafog dog
Please, more fanboys in this thread! I love when nostalgia gets in the way of unbiased analysis!

My thoughts on the second two halo games are all formed having first played them a few days after their predecessors. Nostalgia does not apply to something you experienced less than a week ago. You're simply going to have to do better than that!

  • 03.31.2009 4:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: Jiggly Luv
First of all, many people's opinion will be biased based on their experiences. Those who simply did not get into Halo back in 2001 or 2002 will most likely disagree and lean towards H2 or H3 being the better game. However, I do believe those who really started with this classic have more of a say towards this debate.

Let me begin on my comparison, which most of which agrees with the OP...

Graphics and Features - Can't compare

Music - Overall, the music was more intriguing and pleasing to the ear in Halo:CE. However, I do enjoy the H2 version theme. Halo3's music selection is full of computer-aided remixes.

Campaign - The Halo 3's Campaign levels are mostly guided, without much creativity on what someone can do. Rather Halo:CE's gives you more options. I also got a much greater impact with Halo:CE. But, that tends to happen with a first of a series. As far as Legendary difficulty, I thought Halo:CE's was much harder and took longer. However, it is hard to say since Halo3 is the third of the series. Right now, I could probably go back and beat H1 Legendary within a day. Also, the H3 Campaign being easier could also be because there isn't really much option of what you need to do, therefore with patience can be completed without much trouble.

A.I. - I really think this has to do with the simplicity of Halo:CE's design. Rather with Halo 3, many of the designs in the game are complex, causing many possible flaws and errors. There being mostly Brutes to fight could also play a role as to why H1's A.I. seemed better. Brutes seem to just stand around or run at you. I don't think the A.I. overall is any smarter in H1 than H3, just better designed. Simplistic design is the way to go, Bungie. But, they have lost sight of that.

Multiplayer - This is a tough subject. I think for what Bungie strives for in their Default gametypes, Halo 3 is better balanced for enjoyable gameplay. However, with what many of us learned to enjoy (starting with the M6D), Halo:CE is much better balanced. Also, In Halo:CE's Multiplayer, when you missed a shot and lost a fight, you pretty much knew why all the time. I think H3's Multiplayer took a huge expense to gameplay when the amount of randomness was increased. This new dynamic to the experience, causes it to be extremely frustrating at times as compared to Halo:CE. Another point I have is that Vehicles, which have played a huge part in Halo, gave so much more to the experience with Halo:CE and they were better balanced for both on foot and on Vehicles, which is kind of why we now see so many anti-Vehicle tactics in Halo 3, with Vehicles now being so overpowered thanks to H2.

As far as the enjoyment factor is concerned, there is no doubt whatsoever which was the better experience. However, we must remember that Halo:CE was only played on LANs, while Halo 3 is mostly played in the nasty place that is the internet. Playing with friends make the experience more enjoyable regardless of gameplay.

Halo:CE was simple. Simple means less things will be frustrating. While Halo 3 has more features and options, it also offers much more flaws and complaints to distract from the enjoyment.

Halo:CE wins. I enjoyed Customs more in H1 than I do in Halo 3. But, fun is subjective.

Couldn't agree more about the simplicity factor.
Back to how you compared them, call me crazy, but I give the win to Halo Combat Evolved in graphics. Why? Gritty, full, substantive graphics. Why not 2 or 3? Too shiny. "There's never enough sheen" seems to be the attitude developers had when creating 2 and 3.
Music goes to Combat Evolved. Why? The only memorable moment of 2 was the breaking benjamin song. In 3 it was just re-hashed songs for the most part. Combat Evolved has the awesome theme that kicks in at the end of levels like the Cartographer and the Maw.
Campaign I agree. Options for order of completion in CE existed while 3 was more guided.
A.I. was not amazing when considering marines in CE, but when have marines ever been highly touted in Halo? I'd say that enemies were the most fun in Halo CE due to the variation in enemies. Elites were smart and strong. Grunts were fun to pick off. Jackals could be a pain. Hunters could be handled fairly easily.
Compare that to 2. Elites easily handled with the quick switch. Brutes took so much firepower to take down. No fun. Drones just a nuisance.
3: No more fighting Elites. Brutes gained armor and lost all strength. No sense. No fun.
Multiplayer came down to skill in CE. 2 and 3 was all about power weapons.

[Edited on 03.31.2009 7:34 PM PDT]

  • 03.31.2009 7:33 PM PDT

The funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's to late to stop reading it.

I have had more fun playing Halo 3 than Halo CE and Halo 2 combined.

  • 04.11.2009 10:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jiggly Luv
First of all, many people's opinion will be biased based on their experiences. Those who simply did not get into Halo back in 2001 or 2002 will most likely disagree and lean towards H2 or H3 being the better game. However, I do believe those who really started with this classic have more of a say towards this debate.

Let me begin on my comparison, which most of which agrees with the OP...

Graphics and Features - Can't compare

Music - Overall, the music was more intriguing and pleasing to the ear in Halo:CE. However, I do enjoy the H2 version theme. Halo3's music selection is full of computer-aided remixes.

Campaign - The Halo 3's Campaign levels are mostly guided, without much creativity on what someone can do. Rather Halo:CE's gives you more options. I also got a much greater impact with Halo:CE. But, that tends to happen with a first of a series. As far as Legendary difficulty, I thought Halo:CE's was much harder and took longer. However, it is hard to say since Halo3 is the third of the series. Right now, I could probably go back and beat H1 Legendary within a day. Also, the H3 Campaign being easier could also be because there isn't really much option of what you need to do, therefore with patience can be completed without much trouble.

A.I. - I really think this has to do with the simplicity of Halo:CE's design. Rather with Halo 3, many of the designs in the game are complex, causing many possible flaws and errors. There being mostly Brutes to fight could also play a role as to why H1's A.I. seemed better. Brutes seem to just stand around or run at you. I don't think the A.I. overall is any smarter in H1 than H3, just better designed. Simplistic design is the way to go, Bungie. But, they have lost sight of that.

Multiplayer - This is a tough subject. I think for what Bungie strives for in their Default gametypes, Halo 3 is better balanced for enjoyable gameplay. However, with what many of us learned to enjoy (starting with the M6D), Halo:CE is much better balanced. Also, In Halo:CE's Multiplayer, when you missed a shot and lost a fight, you pretty much knew why all the time. I think H3's Multiplayer took a huge expense to gameplay when the amount of randomness was increased. This new dynamic to the experience, causes it to be extremely frustrating at times as compared to Halo:CE. Another point I have is that Vehicles, which have played a huge part in Halo, gave so much more to the experience with Halo:CE and they were better balanced for both on foot and on Vehicles, which is kind of why we now see so many anti-Vehicle tactics in Halo 3, with Vehicles now being so overpowered thanks to H2.

As far as the enjoyment factor is concerned, there is no doubt whatsoever which was the better experience. However, we must remember that Halo:CE was only played on LANs, while Halo 3 is mostly played in the nasty place that is the internet. Playing with friends make the experience more enjoyable regardless of gameplay.

Halo:CE was simple. Simple means less things will be frustrating. While Halo 3 has more features and options, it also offers much more flaws and complaints to distract from the enjoyment.

Halo:CE wins. I enjoyed Customs more in H1 than I do in Halo 3. But, fun is subjective.

Couldn't agree more about the simplicity factor.
Back to how you compared them, call me crazy, but I give the win to Halo Combat Evolved in graphics. Why? Gritty, full, substantive graphics. Why not 2 or 3? Too shiny. "There's never enough sheen" seems to be the attitude developers had when creating 2 and 3.
Music goes to Combat Evolved. Why? The only memorable moment of 2 was the breaking benjamin song. In 3 it was just re-hashed songs for the most part. Combat Evolved has the awesome theme that kicks in at the end of levels like the Cartographer and the Maw.
Campaign I agree. Options for order of completion in CE existed while 3 was more guided.
A.I. was not amazing when considering marines in CE, but when have marines ever been highly touted in Halo? I'd say that enemies were the most fun in Halo CE due to the variation in enemies. Elites were smart and strong. Grunts were fun to pick off. Jackals could be a pain. Hunters could be handled fairly easily.
Compare that to 2. Elites easily handled with the quick switch. Brutes took so much firepower to take down. No fun. Drones just a nuisance.
3: No more fighting Elites. Brutes gained armor and lost all strength. No sense. No fun.
Multiplayer came down to skill in CE. 2 and 3 was all about power weapons.

Agreed. Halo ce's music was the best, though I do love some songs from halo 2. Halo 3's songs were reiterations of halo 1 and 2s, which frankly I i don't like as much as the originals, and it left out some key songs, like peril.
I also agree with the simplicity thing and the graphics. Halo ce still looks awsome.



Posted by: dtc ppwnage
halo one blows on my balls compared 2 halo 3 . halo 1 sux for multiplayer, halo 1 campaign= amazing halo 3 campaign= ok , halo 1 multiplayer =crap halo 3 multiplayer=sweet , halo 2 multiplayer = AMAZING!

Here here
Halo ce campaign wins
Halo 2 MP wins
Halo 3 forge nd theater win

[Edited on 04.12.2009 7:47 AM PDT]

  • 04.12.2009 7:41 AM PDT
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Posted by: Caragnafog dog
Posted by: chickenlittle
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Posted by: st kymon
that was a really good comparison. Although I don't agree with you I can respect the fact that you didn't jsut say 'halo 1 rocks, halo 3 sucks c_o_c_k_s.


Finally someone smart! But come on, Halo CE, in my opinion, did have a better Campaign.
That's not an opinion. :D
Yes, it is.

No, it is definitely fact.

  • 04.12.2009 8:51 AM PDT