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Subject: Are the BUNGIE forum RULES too HARSH???
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Oh and one of the rules says: Do not feed the trolls

I dont know what that means....what does it mean?

  • 01.04.2008 1:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gazas
Oh and one of the rules says: Do not feed the trolls

I dont know what that means....what does it mean?
I believe it means not to feed into spam. If someone is spamming, let a moderator know and trust me, if it is good enough to be classified as spam, the moderator will take care of it with a smile.

  • 01.04.2008 1:11 PM PDT
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But the rules also say "dont spam" "dont bump" and "dont reply to spam"
Why post the same thing twice, its just confusing...

  • 01.04.2008 1:17 PM PDT

Posted by: Gazas
But the rules also say "dont spam" "dont bump" and "dont reply to spam"
Why post the same thing twice, its just confusing...


Don't post at all is what "don't feed the trolls" means. If someone is flaming, spamming or being retarded, it's best to just not post at all rather then to get into an argument with that person or tell them their going to get in trouble.

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And of course, nobody listens to it, they just post to flame the OP and end up bumping it!

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Meh, all measurements are subjective and based on ego-centricity.

* Light year? Based on how long it takes our planet to orbit our sun. Biased.
* AU? Based on the distance from our planet to our sun. Biased.
* Meter? Originally based on the circumference of the Earth and Base 10 math. Biased.
* Time? Based on the rotation of our planet. Biased.
* Degrees of arc? Based on the orbit of our planet around the sun. Biased.
* Imperial measurements? Based on the size of the King's foot, his arm, or the size of baskets. Biased.
* Base 10 math? Based on the number of digits on the human hand. Biased.

How is this on-topic? Well dear readers, it actually is.

Just like the above measurements are simply labels that people put on something to help it to make sense, so are rules on social interaction. Sure, they are the utter definition of bias, subjectivity and arbitrary. But people agree to use them in order to rise above chaos. Until a standard is agreed on (no matter how irrational that standard may or may not appear to others), nothing can be accomplished.

So the rules are there, some think they are too harsh, others think not stringent enough. Some have problems with how liberally they are enforced, others want them to be enforced with no interpretation or leeway at all.

Despite that, they exist and the vast majority know them, understand them, use them and take them as "constants". Just like any of those horribly biased systems of measurement that are listed above.

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  • 01.04.2008 1:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: Gazas
Oh and one of the rules says: Do not feed the trolls

I dont know what that means....what does it mean?
I believe it means not to feed into spam. If someone is spamming, let a moderator know and trust me, if it is good enough to be classified as spam, the moderator will take care of it with a smile.


Trolling does not necessarily have to be spam. People may create topics that, although technically legitamately aimed, are designed to draw arguments and strife from viewers. This is one of the simplest definitions of trolling. Because these topics are not necessarily spam, they can't ban people for replying to them. This is why they say not to feed the trolls.

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Why not go to a different website or a chapter instead? If it's too strict for you don't come here. In my opinion, it's not.

  • 01.04.2008 3:48 PM PDT

Nope, I don't think that the rules are harsh at all. They're more or less common sense, and you really can't argue with common sense -- essentially, if you're contributing something intelligent to a discussion, you're safe more often than not.

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Until you spend multiple years trying to keep this place clean, you have no right to pass judgment on the enforcing of these rules.

If you want less harsh rules, be better members. Done. Simple.
I will remove the stickies as soon as the entire member-base complies with their half of the deal.

  • 01.04.2008 4:54 PM PDT

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I don't think their harsh enough.
I know I've done stuff that I feel I should've been blacklisted for, and I knew mods were on. No link will be provided :)
I go into the Halo 3 forum, and see multiple threads of the same topic on the same page sometimes. Its simply not tame.
Stickies are wonderful, but it doesn't answer why the melee isn't broken etc.

Im making an effort to be a better member, but unfortunately, its too much sometimes :(

  • 01.04.2008 5:34 PM PDT

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I don't think their harsh enough.
I know I've done stuff that I feel I should've been blacklisted for, and I knew mods were on. No link will be provided :)
I go into the Halo 3 forum, and see multiple threads of the same topic on the same page sometimes. Its simply not tame.
Stickies are wonderful, but it doesn't answer why the melee isn't broken etc.

Im making an effort to be a better member, but unfortunately, its too much sometimes :(
1. Never give yourself away to our Gods here on B.net, bad things will happen. :)

2. The Halo 3 forum is insane. I would probaly enjoy it if it wasn't so active and spammingly quick posting. On average, it has three pages of active threads. The Flood can't even do that. ;)

3. Bungie.net can never be Tamed. It is like a stray cat that you bring into your household. It gets better until it doesn't even look like it was a stray but you still can't tell it to shake your hand.

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Meh, all measurements are subjective and based on ego-centricity.

* Light year? Based on how long it takes our planet to orbit our sun. Biased.
* AU? Based on the distance from our planet to our sun. Biased.
* Meter? Originally based on the circumference of the Earth and Base 10 math. Biased.
* Time? Based on the rotation of our planet. Biased.
* Degrees of arc? Based on the orbit of our planet around the sun. Biased.
* Imperial measurements? Based on the size of the King's foot, his arm, or the size of baskets. Biased.
* Base 10 math? Based on the number of digits on the human hand. Biased.

How is this on-topic? Well dear readers, it actually is.

Just like the above measurements are simply labels that people put on something to help it to make sense, so are rules on social interaction. Sure, they are the utter definition of bias, subjectivity and arbitrary. But people agree to use them in order to rise above chaos. Until a standard is agreed on (no matter how irrational that standard may or may not appear to others), nothing can be accomplished.

So the rules are there, some think they are too harsh, others think not stringent enough. Some have problems with how liberally they are enforced, others want them to be enforced with no interpretation or leeway at all.

Despite that, they exist and the vast majority know them, understand them, use them and take them as "constants". Just like any of those horribly biased systems of measurement that are listed above.


What'd I miss???

  • 01.06.2008 6:44 PM PDT
Subject: Nope, they are just fine.

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Recon talk is not permitted because it destroys the forum. And I mean it in a literal way. Did you not see how many threads where being made about recon per day? It was way too many threads, so they simply said that you cannot talk about it anymore. It's kind of copying off the rules about no religious or political talk. It would overwelm the forum.

  • 01.06.2008 9:43 PM PDT

I don't think they are too harsh. They are there to keep this place free of spam, pointless threads, begging for stuff you can't have, and all other forms of stupidity. Read them, and obey them, or break them and suffer the consequenses. Until everyone starts to act decent and only do things they should be doing they are not going to get more lax with any rules. The way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if they got more strict with them.

  • 01.06.2008 10:36 PM PDT
Subject: Are the BUNGIE forum RULES too HARSH???

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It's not that I think the rules are too harsh, or too lax. I think they're too harsh and too lax in the wrong places.

BIGGEST EXAMPLE: The "Play Nice" rule should be enforced harsher. Whereas the "No Blogs" rule should be lax-ified.

  • 01.06.2008 10:48 PM PDT

My biggest fear about laxing any rules, or their enforcement is that people would take advantage of it, then the problems would spread like a wildfire through the forums. Enforce them all with equal effort and keep the peace.

  • 01.06.2008 11:27 PM PDT

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My biggest fear about laxing any rules, or their enforcement is that people would take advantage of it, then the problems would spread like a wildfire through the forums. Enforce them all with equal effort and keep the peace.

That's why the rules ain't goin' anywhere. :D

They're set in stone, unlikely to ever change.

  • 01.07.2008 12:01 AM PDT
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I think the rules are just fine, my only concern are the things that make it through the cracks, which can't possibly be solved even if they appointed more mods. The problem lies with the members themselves. You just can't help replying to that topic, or making another topic about a topic that has been threaded so many times that's all anyone remembers....As for the armor, the community lost the privilege of posting about it, when it was thread after thread after thread of the exact (and near exact) threads on the front page of the H3 forum and nothing else.

  • 01.07.2008 4:58 AM PDT

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Nope, it seems all the "idiots" on Bungie.net are being taken care of with the current rules, so why change them?

  • 01.07.2008 8:38 AM PDT
Subject: Nope, they are just fine.

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Posted by: DR WE1RD
I don't think they are too harsh. They are there to keep this place free of spam, pointless threads, begging for stuff you can't have, and all other forms of stupidity.

Yet we still get them... the problem with rules is that people can break them easily (since rules are just text, and not actual forum limitations). Which brings me to my next point, why give them more rules to break? Spamming thrives on breaking the rules and getting noticed, having so many rules makes it cake for most spammers to get noticed (like the restrictions on all caps in titles, not that its bad, allows spammers to be noticed easily rather than simply being forgotten and lost among the rest of the community). Anyways, thats just one angle on why too many rules can sometimes be bad, not that having rules are bad, or the rules here are bad, just giving a different point of view.

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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Yet we still get them... the problem with rules is that people can break them easily (since rules are just text, and not actual forum limitations). Which brings me to my next point, why give them more rules to break?

because without those rules, we couldn't do a damn thing about it.

  • 01.07.2008 10:02 AM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

True, but some rules can go unsaid. Spam is one rule. Once you clearly define what spam is, everyone knows the rules and guess what you have! Forum cops all over the place, as well as threads that break the rules to such extremes that everyone sees them (and replies to them to belittle the spammer).

  • 01.07.2008 10:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
True, but some rules can go unsaid. Spam is one rule. Once you clearly define what spam is, everyone knows the rules and guess what you have! Forum cops all over the place, as well as threads that break the rules to such extremes that everyone sees them (and replies to them to belittle the spammer).

How can you have spammers if the definition of spam hasnt been established?

  • 01.07.2008 10:18 AM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Spam is defined, even without b.net's definition. Spam is something irrelevant, without point or meaning. Be it advertisements or just plain old fashioned spam. Its harder to define than it is to find and get rid of.

[Edited on 01.07.2008 10:25 AM PST]

  • 01.07.2008 10:25 AM PDT