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Subject: B.net Profile Additions

Old school Bungie, born and raised,
In the Septagon is where I spend most of my days.
Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
they said "You're gonna get banned and your member title'll be bare!"

Posted by: Demerzel
Posted by: prometheus25
If you want to hear about unnecessary server space waste, let me tell you about the stupidly long 6-month automatic account deletion concept. Why wait 6 months for an inactive account to get automatically deleted? Sure, some people do leave and come back, but how many people who would lose their accounts would be irritated enough to warrant waiting six months to "make sure" they are inactive. If someone cares enough about their account, I'm quite sure they have friends who can periodically sign on to preserve their account.

Last I heard, it was actually a year before an inactive gets purged, but you'd think that that would be a pretty long time to store those accounts. Six months seems a reasonable time -- it's actually a pretty long period, and you'd think that somebody would manage to find a few seconds to sign into that account during that period if they were really serious about preserving it.


Six months for an account to be deleted, another six months for the name to be recycled into the account name pool.

And you're, right: anyone serious about preserving their account, with a rare exception or two, would take a few seconds to sign in during that period.

Posted by: BMW
Posted by: Sexbox
Are you joking? 6 months is fine, what do you suggest? A month? That's unreasonable.

True, me along with about 1 million people would've been gone if that was so.


Sexbox:
1. I'm not telling a joke.
2. I did not "suggest", or imply for that matter, one month. Two or three seems reasonable enough for me. If someone can't login at least six times a year, then why bother keeping their account?

BMW:
Bungie.net just reached one million members a few months ago. Don't over-exaggerate things.

Posted by: JesusismyHomey
I just don't see a reason for it. We already have the PM system. Why do you need to have comments publicized?


I believe many people here would love to talk about themselves more, but the ten-lin allotment in a member's signature doesn't suffice. A personal bio or such would allow users like BerserkerBarage to tell people about what WebcamMVP is and why he got it. It'd let moderators share that asking them about Recon armor or asking how to become a moderator does not work. It would also allow people like Foman to make every possible use of any character limit available. Finally, it'd also allow everyday members have a place to organize favorite game content, rather than having pieces scattered around the website.

Bungie.net started out as the virtual home for Bungie Studios, but it developed into the central hub for various games, such as the Marathon series, Pathways into Darkness, and the Halo series. It's a community website now, and communities are about knowing and interacting with those people around you. I don't want to hear about someone's awesome "no-scope" while browsing the Halo 3 forum, I don't want to hear about someone's love life when I search through the Septagon, and I don't want to waste my time locking a thread about someone's distaste for the way I moderate CI. Those things can easily be placed in a member's bio, where it doesn't impede on my, and everyone else's, enjoyment of the rest of the site.

  • 01.06.2008 4:09 PM PDT

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The thing is, most of those will still be seen in the public forums, even with a bio or blog. Members who do that now want to be seen, so they will make their posts public. I would like to see a little bio, though, above all of the other suggestions.

  • 01.06.2008 4:13 PM PDT

Halo3Planet, the place for all things Halo 3..

Need help finding skulls, make sure to go here.

Posted by: Sexbox
Posted by: roman arrow12
The thing is, most of those will still be seen in the public forums, even with a bio or blog. Members who do that now want to be seen, so they will make their posts public. I would like to see a little bio, though, above all of the other suggestions.
Signature?


Very little space?

  • 01.06.2008 4:20 PM PDT

Old school Bungie, born and raised,
In the Septagon is where I spend most of my days.
Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
they said "You're gonna get banned and your member title'll be bare!"

Posted by: roman arrow12
Posted by: Sexbox
Posted by: roman arrow12
The thing is, most of those will still be seen in the public forums, even with a bio or blog. Members who do that now want to be seen, so they will make their posts public. I would like to see a little bio, though, above all of the other suggestions.
Signature?


Very little space?


Agreed?

And to your previous reply, ConceptionCube, if a person simply links his account and dashes off never to be seen again, their account will be deleted regardless. What difference would it make if this process was done two-fold sooner? That is, of course, assuming that linked profiles are held to the same principles as those of the non-linked variety.

  • 01.06.2008 4:23 PM PDT

Posted by: roman arrow12
Posted by: Sexbox
Posted by: roman arrow12
The thing is, most of those will still be seen in the public forums, even with a bio or blog. Members who do that now want to be seen, so they will make their posts public. I would like to see a little bio, though, above all of the other suggestions.
Signature?


Very little space?

More Space?

  • 01.06.2008 4:24 PM PDT

Old school Bungie, born and raised,
In the Septagon is where I spend most of my days.
Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
they said "You're gonna get banned and your member title'll be bare!"

Posted by: Sexbox
Posted by: prometheus25
And to your previous reply, ConceptionCube, if a person simply links his account and dashes off never to be seen again, their account will be deleted regardless. What difference would it make if this process was done two-fold sooner? That is, of course, assuming that linked profiles are held to the same principles as those of the non-linked variety.
Who says they just dash off? I'm just saying they are obviously not going to be actively signing in and out every week or month. They may sign in every once in a blue to look at their stats but that's about it.

Achronos obviously knows what he's doing and most likely has more information than you as to why the account deletion process is how it is. Why does this bother you anyways?


It doesn't. It was just brought up earlier that a personal bio would be a waste of server potential, and I severly disagreed with that. I countered by bringing up something that was of greater waste, but wasn't optimized. If Achronos agrees that the six month waiting period is not a waste, then why should he feel oppositely of personal bios?

  • 01.06.2008 4:32 PM PDT
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Sexbox wins.

/thread

  • 01.06.2008 4:34 PM PDT

Old school Bungie, born and raised,
In the Septagon is where I spend most of my days.
Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
they said "You're gonna get banned and your member title'll be bare!"

Posted by: Sexbox

How do you know what's a greater waste than another, please tell me where do you get your information. Please.


I'm basing that assumption off of personal experience/education.

Also the account deletion process actually serves a purpose, personal bios are obviously unnecessary.

So everything that you can find on this community site has a specific, goal-oriented purpose?

This is a video game forum, not match.com.

Then why do we have The Flood, or allow groups dedicated to non-Halo/non-videogame subjects?

Bungie has already provided enough ways for you to show some information about yourself that most don't even take a look at because quite frankly, nobody cares about the personal life of a gamer.

I disagree with this. I've met very many people here on Bungie.net that I'd like to know more about. It allows me to judge people less quickly/partially.

[Edited on 01.06.2008 4:47 PM PST]

  • 01.06.2008 4:46 PM PDT

Badge Man
Bungie.net

IMO the only one of three you listed was profile blacklisting because some people might like privacy from annoying people. The other ones would be abused alot.

  • 01.06.2008 5:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Deus_Ex_Machina
Cortana 5 is a carbon-based lifeform that frequently visits these forums, currently residing in the United States. Practically every male on the site responds to her posts.

The Joyeuse IP Formula

The blocking thing could just translate into when you block someone in the messaging system. Not sure how that'd work though. The blog thing might take up lots of space. Perhaps a separate link to your off site blog. And if you don't have one, b.net can guide you to the forum post (or another new page) with the info on blogs and such.

  • 01.06.2008 5:14 PM PDT

Old school Bungie, born and raised,
In the Septagon is where I spend most of my days.
Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
they said "You're gonna get banned and your member title'll be bare!"

Posted by: Sexbox
Posted by: prometheus25
I'm basing that assumption off of personal experience/education.
Laugh Out Loud


Something funny?

Then why do we have The Flood, or allow groups dedicated to non-Halo/non-videogame subjects?Hmm, who knows. Maybe because an off topic forum is basically a necessary for all online forums so without it the masses will be asking for it constantly. As for the group chapters, that is just a little plus for the community to discuss things without the fear of random forum asshats. The bungie online team has found uses for them as well. So you just supported my argument: that a bio would be "just a little plus" for the community.

I would like to know how any of that had anything to do with my match.com comment.

Wasn't paying attention when I typed it, couldn't tell you.

I disagree with this. I've met very many people here on Bungie.net that I'd like to know more about. It allows me to judge people less quickly/partially.And I present to you ladies and gentleman, the private messaging system.

Tell me why I would enjoy writing a PM to every person I want to know better, for the purpose of asking, "Tell me about your self, what you like and such." In fact, I'll save you the time and come up with the answer myself. I wouldn't.

[Edited on 01.06.2008 5:23 PM PST]

  • 01.06.2008 5:21 PM PDT

Old school Bungie, born and raised,
In the Septagon is where I spend most of my days.
Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
they said "You're gonna get banned and your member title'll be bare!"

Posted by: Sexbox
Posted by: prometheus25
So you just supported my argument: that a bio would be "just a little plus" for the community.
Not all "little pluses" are necessary for the site. Group chapters have proven to be very successful on many big time sites. I'm sure little bios have come across the online team's mind, it's a very common feature for forums but they probably felt it was just unneeded.


Again, I say that Bungie.net has evolved past a game forum and is much more of a community site. Perhaps it is time that more community-aimed tools are given to the members

Tell me why I would enjoy writing a PM to every person I want to know better, for the purpose of asking, "Tell me about your self, what you like and such." In fact, I'll save you the time and come up with the answer myself. I wouldn't.The don't. I could really care less.

Cause it doesn't affect you, so your opinion on mine does not matter, nor should it ever be considered.

  • 01.06.2008 5:33 PM PDT
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ya, gotta know who you are...

I have to side with Promie on the bio argument.

If it is beneficial to bringing the community together, though not necessary, then why not. Can I stress COMMUNITY.

[Edited on 01.06.2008 5:39 PM PST]

  • 01.06.2008 5:37 PM PDT

Old school Bungie, born and raised,
In the Septagon is where I spend most of my days.
Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
they said "You're gonna get banned and your member title'll be bare!"

Posted by: Sexbox
Posted by: prometheus25
Again, I say that Bungie.net has evolved past a game forum and is much more of a community site. Perhaps it is time that more community-aimed tools are given to the members.
No, maybe you just see it as one big facebook. Most still see it as a forum dedicated to Bungie studios and their product. The only social aspects of this site are the community chapters and the Flood forum.


"I don't want Bungie.net turning into the next Facebook or Myspace, though."

In my first post.

  • 01.06.2008 5:59 PM PDT
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ya, gotta know who you are...

It would have to be limited, but even some freedom in this regard would be nice.

  • 01.06.2008 6:09 PM PDT

Old school Bungie, born and raised,
In the Septagon is where I spend most of my days.
Relaxin', maxin', posting all cool,
Talking about Halo, life and some school.
Got in one little argument, and the mods got scared,
they said "You're gonna get banned and your member title'll be bare!"

Posted by: Sexbox
Posted by: prometheus25
"I don't want Bungie.net turning into the next Facebook or Myspace, though."

In my first post.
You do realize I was just using Facebook as an example of a social/community focused happy site right?

Way to just ignore my points though.


I fully realize what you were using Facebook as.

To your previous points, you are right. The only social aspects of the site are the Flood forum and Chapters, the former being more of a story-telling area. Those two are the primary social characteristics of this site, which is why, I belive, ULTIMA GEEK is pitching this idea, to get more social correspondance, and eventually, acceptance, into this site/community.

  • 01.06.2008 6:15 PM PDT
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Gz, I'd kill the whole world for you




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Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Just like the groups aren't needed? The groups aren't moderated by staff and look how they turned out.

Groups were kind of needed. There really wasn't an other good way of getting Halo:CE LAN parties together unless it was people you knew personally. It's only still here 'cause people use it for clans now, and everyone would get mad if they were removed.

  • 01.06.2008 6:57 PM PDT

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