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Subject: The very least number of Halos

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

-Felix

I've read a lot of posts arguing over the number of Halos there could be.So I decided to do the geometry and come up with the smallest number you would need, which is nine. That is the very least number of Halos needed in order to completely blanket the galaxy with their blast radius.Why? Here's how...

The effective blast radius of the original ring was 25,000 light years, and assuming all of the "other ones" have the same capabilities, that means every halo would create a blast diameter of 50,000 light years. Since the the radius of the galaxy is 50,000 light years (meaning it's 100,000 light years in diameter) you could place 4 equidistant rings inside the total area of the galaxy without overlapping their blast radii. This however would leave 5 uncovered gaps in the galaxy, 4 along the edges, and one in the center, thus requiring 5 more rings for a total of nine.
You could use eight rings and come very close if you arranged them differently, but you would still have 8 small gaps along the outer edges of the galaxy. Even though the total area from the blast diameter of 4 rings equals that of the entire galaxy, the circular shape would either overlap and create waste, or be wasted outside the limits of the galaxy. Now, I know there are quite a few different questions you could pose such as; Isn't the center of the galaxy devoid of life anyway, meaning you wouldn't need a ring there? or What if the Forerunners knew exactly where to place the rings in order to cover all the life in the galaxy, wouldn't that mean less rings?And who is to say that the Forerunners weren't really flood paranoid and decided to just throw in 30 rings for good measure. Well of course that is why we have Bungie.

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wow...
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u think too much.

  • 06.11.2004 12:14 PM PDT
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Dude, i think you just answered your own question.

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Wow thats amazing man, good work.

  • 06.11.2004 12:18 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

-Felix

That was the point (but i know what you mean).

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You need to go outside more often.

  • 06.11.2004 12:19 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

-Felix

It's raining outside, and that took like a whole 10 min. Wait a minute, I just wasted 10 minutes? I could have been playing Halo...NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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AWW man, here we go, Were hacking down some dude because he displayed a flicker of intelligence.

  • 06.11.2004 12:21 PM PDT
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Hey I'm smart too! I just figured out what he did! WAIT! This means I'm not playing Halo...NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

  • 06.11.2004 12:23 PM PDT
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Whoa whoa whoa pal. How can you calculate that? We have no freaking clue how large the galaxy is! (Heck I'm sure it doesn't even end....) So how can you come to any conclusion?

  • 06.11.2004 12:24 PM PDT

There are two groups of people in the world - those that hope, and those that wish. The first group hopes that nothing bad will happen. The second group wishes that they are there when it does. Which one are you?

-Felix

It's widely accepted that the Milky Way Galaxy is 100,000 light years across. Are you sure you aren't thinking of the Universe as a whole?

  • 06.11.2004 12:25 PM PDT

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Wow... I could've never figured that out. Good work!

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Posted by: Final Spartan
Whoa whoa whoa pal. How can you calculate that? We have no freaking clue how large the galaxy is! (Heck I'm sure it doesn't even end....) So how can you come to any conclusion?


Actually, the Super Smart people at NASA calculated the Diameter of the Andromada Galaxy to be aroud 60,000 light years arcoss using trigonometry (a2 plus b2 equals c2)
and the milky way Galaxy was found to be 50,000 light years across(average for a spiral galaxy).

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I'd say there are 7 halos. Why? Cause bungie loves 7. Actually we considering we don't know if the halos have to cover the entire galaxy to be effective, that is at least 4 halos, hence installation 04. Or if we are counting installation 00 then there are at least 5.

And what if the flood can move from one galaxy to the next? Then the halos wouldn't be enough. The flood are smart enough to repair the Pillar of Autum, so they must be trying to travel somewhere. WHere!?!?!

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Posted by: Nelo Angelo
I've read a lot of posts arguing over the number of Halos there could be.So I decided to do the geometry and come up with the smallest number you would need, which is nine. That is the very least number of Halos needed in order to completely blanket the galaxy with their blast radius.Why? Here's how...

The effective blast radius of the original ring was 25,000 light years, and assuming all of the "other ones" have the same capabilities, that means every halo would create a blast diameter of 50,000 light years. Since the the radius of the galaxy is 50,000 light years (meaning it's 100,000 light years in diameter) you could place 4 equidistant rings inside the total area of the galaxy without overlapping their blast radii. This however would leave 5 uncovered gaps in the galaxy, 4 along the edges, and one in the center, thus requiring 5 more rings for a total of nine.
You could use eight rings and come very close if you arranged them differently, but you would still have 8 small gaps along the outer edges of the galaxy. Even though the total area from the blast diameter of 4 rings equals that of the entire galaxy, the circular shape would either overlap and create waste, or be wasted outside the limits of the galaxy. Now, I know there are quite a few different questions you could pose such as; Isn't the center of the galaxy devoid of life anyway, meaning you wouldn't need a ring there? or What if the Forerunners knew exactly where to place the rings in order to cover all the life in the galaxy, wouldn't that mean less rings?And who is to say that the Forerunners weren't really flood paranoid and decided to just throw in 30 rings for good measure. Well of course that is why we have Bungie.
Ummm... dont hurt yourself.

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Finally somebody who understands my ways of thinking.

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Maybe we will get to visit them all...that would be cool.

[Edited on 6/11/2004 1:11:49 PM]

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Posted by: Nelo Angelo
I've read a lot of posts arguing over the number of Halos there could be.So I decided to do the geometry and come up with the smallest number you would need, which is nine. That is the very least number of Halos needed in order to completely blanket the galaxy with their blast radius.Why? Here's how...

The effective blast radius of the original ring was 25,000 light years, and assuming all of the "other ones" have the same capabilities, that means every halo would create a blast diameter of 50,000 light years. Since the the radius of the galaxy is 50,000 light years (meaning it's 100,000 light years in diameter) you could place 4 equidistant rings inside the total area of the galaxy without overlapping their blast radii. This however would leave 5 uncovered gaps in the galaxy, 4 along the edges, and one in the center, thus requiring 5 more rings for a total of nine.
You could use eight rings and come very close if you arranged them differently, but you would still have 8 small gaps along the outer edges of the galaxy. Even though the total area from the blast diameter of 4 rings equals that of the entire galaxy, the circular shape would either overlap and create waste, or be wasted outside the limits of the galaxy. Now, I know there are quite a few different questions you could pose such as; Isn't the center of the galaxy devoid of life anyway, meaning you wouldn't need a ring there? or What if the Forerunners knew exactly where to place the rings in order to cover all the life in the galaxy, wouldn't that mean less rings?And who is to say that the Forerunners weren't really flood paranoid and decided to just throw in 30 rings for good measure. Well of course that is why we have Bungie.




Your post is rather intelligetn, in fact, i did the same thing about a week after seeing that cinematic. The one detail you forget is that 343 says "....this galaxy will be quite (QUITE!!!! NOT ALL!!!) devoid of life. The galaxy would not have to be completely devoid of life, only quite devoid. Thus, ur hypothesis about using eight might actually work.

Thats all, farewell

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the monitor in 343 guilty spark said he was in charge of installation four (which means tehre are definetly 3 other halos im not sure if htere are more

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THE VERY LEAST # OF HALOS IS 156 ATLEASY BECAUSE NASA HAS EXPANDED RESEARCH TO ALMOST 1 TRILLION LIGHTYEARS IN THE UNIVERSE AND IF I RECALL GUILT SPARK SAYING THAT IF THE RING WERE TO BE ACTIVATED ALL LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE WOULD BE NON EXISTSTANT THUS GIVIGN YU THE CALCULATION TO CREATE 156 BECAUSE THE HALOS IN HALO 2 COULD BECOME MORE POWERFUL IN THE RANGE OF FIRE GUILTY SPART IS IN CHARGE OF RING 4 WHICH ALSO MEENS HE HAS BROTHERS OR OTHER UNITS EXACTLY LIEK HIM ON THE OTHER HALO RINGS WITH MEENS HE RELAYS MESSAGES ACROOS THE UNIVERSE TO 344 GUILTY SPARK AND 345 GUILTY SPARK AND SO ON.......

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Bravo! I salute your outstanding math skills and good work, but i really dont think there will be 9 halos, it would get repetative. Unless....(runs off and starts coming up with crazy theories)

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We also don't know if the entire network of Halos was finished.

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Posted by: Accurate Sniper
THE VERY LEAST # OF HALOS IS 156 ATLEASY BECAUSE NASA HAS EXPANDED RESEARCH TO ALMOST 1 TRILLION LIGHTYEARS IN THE UNIVERSE AND IF I RECALL GUILT SPARK SAYING THAT IF THE RING WERE TO BE ACTIVATED ALL LIFE IN THE UNIVERSE WOULD BE NON EXISTSTANT THUS GIVIGN YU THE CALCULATION TO CREATE 156 BECAUSE THE HALOS IN HALO 2 COULD BECOME MORE POWERFUL IN THE RANGE OF FIRE GUILTY SPART IS IN CHARGE OF RING 4 WHICH ALSO MEENS HE HAS BROTHERS OR OTHER UNITS EXACTLY LIEK HIM ON THE OTHER HALO RINGS WITH MEENS HE RELAYS MESSAGES ACROOS THE UNIVERSE TO 344 GUILTY SPARK AND 345 GUILTY SPARK AND SO ON.......


Ok man, first of all turn off the -blam!- caps lock! second GS said GALAXY not UNIVERSE, pay more attention to the game while you're playing it...(shakes head in disgust)

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actualy the universe is infinite(not ending) we have calculated the radius of this galixy(milkyway) i can tell u that for sure...theres also millions of other galixies

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so there will be 30 updates of halo?

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