Bungie.net Community
This topic has moved here: Subject: Report as Spam, Anonymous? (+ Idea) Clarification from webteam appr...
  • Subject: Report as Spam, Anonymous? (+ Idea) Clarification from webteam appr...
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • of 2
Subject: Report as Spam, Anonymous? (+ Idea) Clarification from webteam appr...
  •  | 
  • Exalted Mythic Member
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

The End

‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

I have a question regarding report as spam. My guess is that the topics marked as spam have a counter beside them displaying the number of times the thread has been marked as spam to direct moderators to them. If this is the case does this mean that people are anonymous when reporting threads as spam? It doesn't matter whether or not this is the case however I was wondering if reporting theads as spam has anything to do with trust ratings.

My idea is that perhaps credit is given to people who correcly mark threads as spam and perhaps credit could be deducted when people mark a valid thread as spam 3 times or more within a given period.

I guess we all like the idea of playing moderator and wonder if report as spam sprees account for anything other than being a good community members and deserving a big box of cookies.

Post your thoughts. Clarification from the Bnet webteam would be appretiated.

Thanks
~TOM T 117

  • 01.09.2008 7:22 AM PDT

Strange evolution how people have come to believe
That we are it's greatest achievement
We're barely, we're just a collection of cells
Overrating themselves

Achronos has mentioned that there are consequences for abusing the spam feature, so I doubt that its anonymous.

  • 01.09.2008 7:49 AM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

Its not a counter, I think its more of a message system alerting moderators to a reported post (thats how every other report system I have used works). And anonymity is really not an issue, since it is generally just between you and the moderators and then no one else.

  • 01.09.2008 7:50 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I think they get a special PM indicating spam and the thread involved, pretty sure Achronos said it wasn't anonymous either...

  • 01.09.2008 7:50 AM PDT

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." - Albert Einstien

I think I have noticed a bit less spam, but I have never seen the results of my reporting. It takes a while to sink in though, people aren't used to hitting the spam button for every spam post they see yet (I don't usually do so even on other forums that allow me to).

  • 01.09.2008 8:01 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Once people get used to reporting we might see a bit more of a change. It'll be shockin for the mods though, hopefully it doesn't get to the point were all of their time is taken up by investigating spam reports...

  • 01.09.2008 8:05 AM PDT

Get in the Hog if you wan to live.
GT: HWM BlacKnight

►H3 Wheelmen◄
Map guids, Training and a great community!

Personally i don't use it unless 100% necessary, most of the time i tell them if they have done something wrong so they know for next time.

[Edited on 01.09.2008 8:10 AM PST]

  • 01.09.2008 8:07 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Lol, make the forum equivilent of a citizens arrest, hack the Bnet database and blacklist them, that'll teach 'em...

  • 01.09.2008 8:13 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
While we're on the subject though, for those of you who use it.... what's your impression about the results?

Has anyone noticed an overall difference? A specific result? Any impact, change, or effect?


Well, from what i have noticed, those repetetive threads seem to have lower lifespan than before

  • 01.09.2008 8:34 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
While we're on the subject though, for those of you who use it.... what's your impression about the results?

Has anyone noticed an overall difference? A specific result? Any impact, change, or effect?



In the regular forums, it is speeding up locking threads a lot.

In the files forums, I report some threads and an hr or more later there still going, so thats why I usually pm the links to an online mod because its 10x more efficient in the files forums.


Otherwise, great system.

  • 01.09.2008 9:15 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Talk to the Soul | ~B.B. | Know Your Duardo |  | Hero | ISFJ | 77135 | 94371

"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."

Posted by: Recon Number 54
While we're on the subject though, for those of you who use it.... what's your impression about the results?

Has anyone noticed an overall difference? A specific result? Any impact, change, or effect?
On regular threads, yes, it seems like action is taken quickly. However, in the Files Forums, or even in my sticky in the Halo 3 Forum, a lot of the times it seems like nothing is going to happen, or has happened.

I do have a question about reporting though. Sometimes I'll report something that I think is spam, but may not actually be in the eyes or others. Will there, or has there been, consequences for my marking something as spam, when it might not be the the eyes of a ninja? Basically, am I, or will I, get punished somehow for reporting spam when I think it's spam, but in reality it might not be in the eyes of others?

  • 01.09.2008 9:48 AM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Mythic Member
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

The End

‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

Posted by: Recon Number 54
While we're on the subject though, for those of you who use it.... what's your impression about the results?

Has anyone noticed an overall difference? A specific result? Any impact, change, or effect?
They seem to work very well. Most threads that I report seem to be locked very quickly. There is the odd occasion where nothing happens for a long time but usually this is because there aren't any moderators online at the time (according to the mod finder). I am so far impressed with the results.

I have noticed that people are becoming more wary likely due to seeing the report as spam button as a common thing, people seem to put more effort into their posts, although I could just be dreaming. All positive impacts in my opinion, I also think the moderators are as efficient if not more so due to the feature they do not seem like they are being spread too thinly (except perhaps in the minor forums like the Halo 2 forum where some rule breaking threads go unnoticed for a day of two sometimes).

Posted by: Duardo
Basically, am I, or will I, get punished somehow for reporting spam when I think it's spam, but in reality it might not be in the eyes of others?
I would guess it depends on the severity. I doubt you would get banned for misunderstanding and reporting a thread that can be annoying in your eyes. However I guess if you were disagreeing with people and abused the feature then you would likely build up to a ban would it wouldn't be an instant process.

[Edited on 01.09.2008 9:57 AM PST]

  • 01.09.2008 9:51 AM PDT

Strange evolution how people have come to believe
That we are it's greatest achievement
We're barely, we're just a collection of cells
Overrating themselves

Posted by: Recon Number 54
While we're on the subject though, for those of you who use it.... what's your impression about the results?

Has anyone noticed an overall difference? A specific result? Any impact, change, or effect?

I haven't paid attention, but I weould like the report as spam button to disable itself after you have reported a thread as spam.

Easier said than done, but it would be nice.

  • 01.09.2008 10:24 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Recon Number 54
While we're on the subject though, for those of you who use it.... what's your impression about the results?

Has anyone noticed an overall difference? A specific result? Any impact, change, or effect?
Everything I've hit, has been moved or locked a little while after. I kind of feel like I'm being a bother, you guys seem to have it covered really well 'round here, as I've said a million times. /end suck-up statement.

  • 01.09.2008 1:10 PM PDT

It IS as bad as you think and they ARE out to get you.

It will probably take a little while for the spam button to become fully used. I know most of the time I completely forget about it's there.

  • 01.09.2008 1:27 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Mythic Member
  • gamertag: Rokitz
  • user homepage:

Want to know more about me? Check out my Community Joes interview.

Trying something once will increace your chances of success, because you tried it. Try someting twice, and your chances increase yet again - seeing as you've done it. Try something a few thousand times, and your chances of success is exponentially increased; this increase would likely provide success every time

Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: Duardo
I do have a question about reporting though. Sometimes I'll report something that I think is spam, but may not actually be in the eyes or others. Will there, or has there been, consequences for my marking something as spam, when it might not be the the eyes of a ninja? Basically, am I, or will I, get punished somehow for reporting spam when I think it's spam, but in reality it might not be in the eyes of others?

If there are sufficient disagreements? Yes, there are consequences. But I wouldn't trouble myself over them.

If a member notices that threads/posts that they report are not getting "dealt with", then it is one of 4 possible explanations. There were insufficient corroborating reports from other members to bring it to the attention of the ninjas (either it was not seen by enough people or the people who saw it did not consider it worthy of a report), the ninjas disagreed with the assessment and chose not to act, the ninjas did respond (but their response was not public and visible), or that member is encountering an aspect of the previously mentioned consequences.

Cryptic and babbling as usual.....None the less, I too must agree with Duardo. Hell, I've been reporting anything against any rule. Or something as simple as replying to spam and saying 'Reported'. But alas, within your cryptic words Recon, there is an answer. And that answer, can be seen, that being; continue what you are doing, you're using the system the way it should be.

As for the topic at hand, there is no anonymity. I have learned this through many posts, some more than others. From what I have read, and that of what I think is going on, I can tell you that you can be effected negatively; if there is a major disagreement or a periodical disagreement. It is an ingenious system, and an intelligent one.

  • 01.09.2008 1:32 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Fabled Legendary Member
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Posted by: evilcam
Gz, I'd kill the whole world for you




3-19-07

Posted by: UL7IM4 G33K
Its not a counter, I think its more of a message system alerting moderators to a reported post

And who leaked that? That would be generally the same as PMing a Mod and not make it work any faster.

I'm fairly sure there is no Anon's here. I honestly don't like anything that is being done to be anonymous really. Easier to punish those who abuse.

[Edited on 01.09.2008 1:48 PM PST]

  • 01.09.2008 1:47 PM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

tO RECON NUMBER 54

going back to what duardo said, I also have been hesitant to report/ tell a ninja about this.
for example a saw 1 person on every reply he put on a thread links off to other sites or some regarding halo. But as they regard halo, is this bad? I know there are rules so you shouldnt make hyperelinks and stuff but its really annoying to see someone make a hell of a lot of links with random names like a chimps doughnut going off to other sites...what should i do?

  • 01.09.2008 3:16 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Mythic Member
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

The End

‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

Posted by: SINFUL SOUL 77
tO RECON NUMBER 54

going back to what duardo said, I also have been hesitant to report/ tell a ninja about this.
for example a saw 1 person on every reply he put on a thread links off to other sites or some regarding halo. But as they regard halo, is this bad? I know there are rules so you shouldnt make hyperelinks and stuff but its really annoying to see someone make a hell of a lot of links with random names like a chimps doughnut going off to other sites...what should i do?
Owch my ears . . .

No I'm not Recon Number 54 but seeing as this is not a chat room it isn't relevant. Linking to other sites is against the rules, you should report these posts as spam and leave them be. The ninjas will ensure they receive punishment.

  • 01.10.2008 9:35 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I use the report as spam button to get rid of spam. I'm less concerned about recognition or rewards.

And yeah Recon, it certainly seems to work. Usually if I mark something as spam (as I just did in the flood), a litte later I see it locked or moved.

[Edited on 01.10.2008 9:42 AM PST]

  • 01.10.2008 9:40 AM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Mythic Member
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

The End

‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

Posted by: AF ARMY ToughGuy
I use the report as spam button to get rid of spam. I'm less concerned about recognition or rewards.
Although this is the model answer my thread was just an enquiry as to whether it helps to feed the trust system and if (super)people notice if you are being a good community member. This is not a do i get recon nowz thread, although I'd like it ;-)

(this is not in any way a retort, if you interpreted it in that way, it is hard to word what I am trying to say without it seeming like I am arguing with you, sorry if that is how you saw this post)

~TOM T 117

  • 01.10.2008 9:44 AM PDT

Proud Member of the Worker's Revolution
Halo 3 in the Workplace

I use it pretty regularly - but like others have said - I am not always confident that my definition of "spam" is the same as the mods or other members for htat matter. But I like the option. And I use it. I think it is a good option for something that is clearly offensive or in violation of a rule, you know you can "do something about it" without necessarily being confrontational.

  • 01.10.2008 9:47 AM PDT

  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • of 2