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Posted by: SentientGiraffe
Posted by: Master Kim
Posted by: SentientGiraffe
I also didn't like the fully recharging health system, and the lack of fall damage. I didn't like vehicle damage, and vehicles that always respawn. Vehicle control was an important part of games in Halo, and that's kinda difficult when they respawn. The lack of an assault rifle made the game much less enjoyable. The glitches in the game are pretty annoying. You do have an assault rifle in Halo 2. It's called a SMG. :P
Would you say Halo 3 has two kinds of Assault Rifles? :)No. The SMG is still plays like the AR from the first game and the MA5C is a new weapon altogether where the similarities to the first weapon's AR is purely cosmetic and it actually makes for a good starting weapon.Posted by: Botolf
I also didn't like the fully recharging health system, and the lack of fall damage. I didn't like vehicle damage, and vehicles that always respawn. Vehicle control was an important part of games in Halo, and that's kinda difficult when they respawn. The lack of an assault rifle made the game much less enjoyable. The glitches in the game are pretty annoying.
The newer health system and fall damage, meh, how could I be bothered to miss something so trivial? I don't have to hunt for med-packsWhich is either a positive change or a game changing design flaw.
Posted by: Botolf
and I have a few new vertical paths through levels, not much game-shaking change there. I liked the AR, though, SMG didn't fill the void, glad to see it return in Halo 3. I haven't run across the major glitches, but ya, utter nuisance.
Posted by: Botolf
Posted by: Master Kim
Ironically, Halo 3 is more of the same of Halo 2. :)
Oh so many people would disagree with you, I'd be one of them ;)I exaggerated there, but allow me to elaborate. Aside from number of new features (Holy crap, it's a "bubble" shield!), new variety, less auto-aim, and so forth, I'm still stuck with the problem of dual-wielded guns, an annoying albeit improved lunge associated with melees, an Energy Sword that still takes relatively little skill to kill people, and once again, new vehicles and weapons have altered the game play of the previous game and added a whole bunch of stuff we didn't need.
A slightly irrelevant point: Halo's game play design of having several useful weapons with a unique role instead of having a bunch of weapons that are the same worked out pretty well. Granted, it wasn't perfect, but it worked great, with only ten weapons (if you include the fuel rod gun from the PC version). In Halo 3, you have a bunch of new content which adds variety, yes, but also unnecessary imbalances that we really didn't need. Not all of them are horrible, but there are now essentially eight new weapons, not including the equipment, Spike grenade, firebomb, along with the retarded pistol and the Needler and other weapon changes. Variety is good, but too much without offsetting the game play is not good. Plus, in terms of style and design, do we need a Brute shotgun, Brute SMG, or Brute sword? I'm glad they're not making a Halo 4, because then Bungie might decide to make a Brute sniper rifle, Brute Needler, Brute Spartan Laser, Brute BR, Brute Ghost, Brute aircraft, Brute elephants, gah! Also, regarding vehicles, did we need a Mongoose or a UNSC Banshee? Does making a weapon with a nearly identical counter-part doesn't make for good game play? The Spartan Laser was an interesting addition that I liked because there is no other weapon like it. Halo 2 gave us the Covenant Warthog, the Spectre. In Halo 3, Bungie removed the Spectre and added the Prowler, AKA, the Brute Spectre. See a pattern here?
Posted by: Botolf
I don't know about you, but the sniper rifle, assault rifle, and shotgun see plenty of use.
Exaggeration on my part, of course. But the point was that the pistol and a select few weapons surface way too often in combat, it gets dull.
Hop into any HPC server, and see what I mean. I can't stand a large dose of vanilla H1 multiplayer anymore, I've found more balance and variety in custom content, funnily enough.Last time I checked, that sniper rifle and shotty was still pretty popular. :)
I'm in favor in bringing down the size of these posts myself.
[Edited on 01.23.2008 2:35 PM PST]