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Subject: Should "Fanboy" be illegal like "noob?"
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Wait, what? How is "noob" illegal?

  • 01.13.2008 11:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: AtmaDave
Wait, what? How is "noob" illegal?

It's an overused insulting word.

Fanboy's not as bad, it's not insulting as much to be honest, but whatever.,

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you fanboy!!

  • 01.13.2008 11:31 PM PDT

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I agree and add this for those who yell "Fanboy". You're on a BUNGIE forum, obviously you must like the game or the company to have gone through the trouble of creating an account here and in most cases linking you tag here. Therefore you to are in some part a Fanboy or Fangirl. I can admit there are those who are ultra fans who'd take a literal bullet for a Bungie staffer, but they are a minority and are no more or less human than you and still deserve dignity and respect. <--- this translated from Hippie into common English 'Do onto others"

  • 01.13.2008 11:34 PM PDT

Im on the bungie forum because of all the halo 3 discussion, I hate when fanboys turn a blind eye to the games obvious flaws and flame everyone who comments on them. I do love halo but I dont worship bungie.

  • 01.13.2008 11:36 PM PDT
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Dig it

The term "noob" insults the player's skill, however, "fanboy" is now an often-used term to insult the player as a "programmer's pet".

  • 01.13.2008 11:40 PM PDT
Subject: Should "Fanboy" be illegal like "noob?"

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I'm, tired of people immediately going to the assumption that someone is a "fanboy" because they think the game is awesome. Seriously, now when you try and defend Halo3 in an actually true sense, the person saying the game sucks calls you a "fanboy" and completely disregards what you said because you were called that, which in retrospect is really stupid when you think about it. What i find funny is that it is the antagonistic person's "Get Out of Jail Free Card," such as when you totally prove them wrong on their topic and then they say "fanboy" and prattle on like nothi ng ever happened. It's ridiculous and has really nothing to do with arguments. Thoughts anyone? Also, lets try and be serious, alright.
*No flaming or retarded comments, only legit arguments.*

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  • 01.13.2008 6:01 PM PDT

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'Fanboy' is no where near as often used as the derogatory term we know as 'noob,' it's also in no way as insulting as noob. In fact, I never even heard the term used in the forum yet. Think I don't look enough or I'm not an active member? Well if you really want to prove me wrong go ahead and search my post history and show me a thread where someone used the term.

From what you've said it looks like the term is used whenever there's a dispute of whether Halo 3 is worth whatever praise you give it. Well, 'noob' is often used whenever someone asks a simple question, or even just a regular question, one that many people have known the answer to for a while anyway. It's also been used when someone with bad typing posts a topic or has an idea that people would consider 'far fetched' or 'ridicuous.' It's been used to describe ANYONE with Hayabusa armor. It's been used for a lot of things, unlike 'fanboy.'

Don't get me wrong, I'm as willing as the next guy when it comes to trying to improve our community, I just don't think banning this word is necessary or would make much of a difference.

By the way for those of you who don't know, when he mentioned noob being 'illegal' he meant how use of the word is against forum rules and it's a bannable/blacklistable offense.

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Posted by: AtmaDave
Wait, what? How is "noob" illegal?
Thanks for reading the rules. Noob is, and has been for a very long time, banned from use on these forums. People don't read the rules though, so you still see it a lot.

You can get banned for it though.

As for fanboy, well, I don't think we need a rule for it. But if you see someone being a jerk, report them. That would take care of the problem.

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No, no matter how many times you say it, it's not derogatory and it isn't true unless you let it be true. Its just a adjective used to describe loyal fans of a product or service and although you might find it offensive it isn't a offense word, unlike noob which was derived to be offensive.

  • 01.14.2008 1:54 AM PDT
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Posted by: B0ONE
you fanboy!!
Hes being a fanboy of the idea to not allow the word fanboy. Wow what a fanboy.

  • 01.14.2008 7:46 AM PDT
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I like being a Halo fanboy. Sums up my attitude towards the entire franchise quite well. If people want to go ahead and use that as an excuse to disregard anything I say about then game then go ahead, what do I care some kid on the internet doesn't like my opinion?

As for noob, I don't know what all the fuss is about, I've played MMORPGs for a good few years and I've never found the word to be insulting. I think of it more as a funny name to yell at friends when they mess up.

  • 01.14.2008 8:19 AM PDT
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Fanboy actually is derogatory unless you're saying that you are one.
There's a difference between fan and fanboy. And I have seen fanboy used as part of an argument quite a few times.

It actually is a free insult. People use it because they get that free shot. The "you're too much of a Bungie fan" shot. I have yet to ever see someone called a fanboy in a friendly context. It's only used when someone has a problem with a developer and they want to try to bypass the opinions of those people who generally like the game.

I actually think that a rule prohibiting the word wouldn't hurt. Just like the other prohibited words, it never adds anything constructive to a conversation and is only used as an insult to try and invalidate others' opinions without a valid reason.

  • 01.14.2008 8:28 AM PDT

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Fanboy is a word that I use when I have discussed enough with a person to make the claim they are one (generally when they defend their side with nothing and ignore large amounts of negativity toward what they like merely out of fandom and devotion to it). Fanboy isn't derogatory, its a kind of person that many people are, including me. Its the kind of fanboy that determines if it is derogatory or not.

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Posted by: CAVX
Fanboy actually is derogatory unless you're saying that you are one.
There's a difference between fan and fanboy. And I have seen fanboy used as part of an argument quite a few times.

It actually is a free insult. People use it because they get that free shot. The "you're too much of a Bungie fan" shot. I have yet to ever see someone called a fanboy in a friendly context. It's only used when someone has a problem with a developer and they want to try to bypass the opinions of those people who generally like the game.

I actually think that a rule prohibiting the word wouldn't hurt. Just like the other prohibited words, it never adds anything constructive to a conversation and is only used as an insult to try and invalidate others' opinions without a valid reason.


I agree, but I think enforcing the rule regarding the use of the N work needs work before we add more words to the pile. Also, you're a total fanboy for me CAVX. Don't hide it. Now you've seen it in a friendly (and mildly creepy) context. :D

  • 01.14.2008 10:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: CAVX
Fanboy actually is derogatory unless you're saying that you are one.


Very good point. I remember a some time ago there was some thread or other about the Halo 3 forum. I made a point about fanboyism and someone else took this very negatively and decided to call me a tosser. This, of course, meant that he considered himself a fanboy. I giggled like a maniac and spun around wildly in my spinny chair.

Just like the other prohibited words, it never adds anything constructive to a conversation and is only used as an insult to try and invalidate others' opinions without a valid reason
I disagree with this. Fanboyism is not necessarily a vacuous label like noob, which represents a breadth of gaming-related characteristics and deems them negative whether or not they're objectively something to be ashamed of -- poor skill at the game, having a low level, losing an argument, refusing to BXR, etc. Rather, there's an implicit argument, at least in my usage, and that is that the other person is ignoring valid points in undue deference to authority. Self-recognition is not an easy task for many; sometimes what it takes is a stern statement that you need improvement. It tells the other person hey, you need to look at the situation and stop acting stupidly because you think Bungie loves your aggrandization. Achronos will not give you Recon because you hate BR starts (and variety) and mindlessly argue your opinion that Bungie made things one way, therefore that's best (which, of course, ignores that they are not stupid and are not necessarily satisfied with present affairs as well). And it's not demeaning, as noob is. It's the very same way in which anti-fanboys complain because they want things improved. It draws attention to a negative aspect in a loud way which is necessary, because if you don't have loud labels those points will not get attention themselves.

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  • 01.14.2008 10:42 AM PDT

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"noob and "fanboy" are insulting words? boy i think youre a "pu55y" if you think this insults you.

  • 01.14.2008 11:16 AM PDT

I am a self-admitting fanboy. Remember when nerd was such a derogatory term? Oh how I so very wish that I was a nerd.

I suppose my name could possibly be Steve-Dave.

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It takes a lot to offend me so words like "n00b" and "fanboy' are just words. But ruling against some words can prevent flame wars. "N00b" has a negative connotation to it so it is best left out but "fanboy" doesn't have as much negativity about it (or at least not in this forum) so it's fine for now. As with anything, if it ever becomes a problem the mods will say something.

  • 01.14.2008 4:43 PM PDT

No, I don't think so. I can't claim to speak for anyone else, but I wouldn't be insulted if someone called me a fanboy. To me, calling somebody a fanboy just means that they're a fan of some part of geek culture, which I am -- I mean come on, I design websites and talk about video games.

I decided a while ago that it isn't really worth getting worked up about it if someone calls me a name over the internet. Calling someone that other word with intent is a completely different case, though -- it's derogatory and it implies that not only is somebody bad at something, but their opinions don't matter because of it. IMO, that's just being a jerk and it should be punishable.

I don't make the rules or enforce them, but that's just my two cents.

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Posted by: NinjAg
I agree, but I think enforcing the rule regarding the use of the N work needs work before we add more words to the pile. Also, you're a total fanboy for me CAVX. Don't hide it. Now you've seen it in a friendly (and mildly creepy) context. :D


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Posted by: B0ONE
you fanboy!!

Your pointing marine avatar made your statement perfect.

*cough* anyways...
Fanboy, just like noob or many other words thrown around here, are really only meant to degrade someone, to make others ignore them, because no one wants to side with a "noob" or a "fanboy". I think the word fanboy needs to be critically looked at by the ninjas. If a sentece has the word fanboy in it and it holds the same meaning as if it was "noob", I think that should be considered an infrigment of rules. For example, if someone says "Shut up you Fanboy", it practically holds the same meaning of "Shut up you n00b".

Overall, I think if someone is abusing the term "fanboy" you should probably PM a ninja and have them look at the post. If they think it was wrong of them then the person will be punished. Simple.

[Edited on 01.14.2008 6:58 PM PST]

  • 01.14.2008 6:49 PM PDT

I'm a boy and I'm a fan. Therefore I am a fanboy. =)

  • 01.14.2008 6:52 PM PDT

Making fanboy illegal won't change anything. Just making it technically impossible to type or against the forum rules doesn't stop people thinking those words or expressing their thoughts in other ways and words. It isn't the word that is offensive ,it is the people who use it in that offensive context, therefore we should make efforts to help people be more understanding and tolerant of each other.

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