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Subject: Halo 2 Stats Issues

Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

So, that means you can stop emailing us about it - we know your stats have vanished on bungie.net. Rest assured that you haven't lost anything. It is just a case of the web servers having difficulty accessing the data.

  • 01.07.2005 3:21 PM PDT
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Good to hear, but isn't there a more efficient way to spread the web content over more servers, or indeed, get more powerful servers, for the task at hand? Bungie.net is having a hard time coping with everything it has to.

  • 01.07.2005 4:25 PM PDT
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Bungie's posting a news item about stats issues?

Gimme a break. They have stats issues every freaking day. A day has yet to pass when I log on to bungie.net and don't run into a problem with my stats - I'll either get a user-not-found, I can't see the friends on my friend's list, I can't see the last 10 games I played, my Rumble Pit stats have been reset, I get a "No games played" message for my level in another gametype, or all my old Gameviewer stats have been deleted (oh wait, that wasn't an "error" - that was a planned event).

Is anyone else seriously frustrated with this crap? To anyone who thought Halo 2 was overhyped...Bungie.net is wickedly, extraordinarily overhyped. The Gameviewer, the RSS feed, the new Bungie.net layout, and all of our Halo 2 XBL stats in general were supposed to be sweet & awesome features, and honestly, they're all broken.

The Gameviewer is decent (though it obviously pales in comparison to the replay feature found in many RTS & FPS games on the PC), but what is up with them clearing that out? The RSS feed is nifty too, but what good is 7 days worth of data? I want career stats; I'd rather having 5 numbers that tell me overall kills, deaths, games, and points than just the 7 most recent days of games.

Don't even get me started on Bungie.net. They spent months working on this thing, and it still sucks. I run a 1.6 GHz Pentium M, and the page still doesn't scroll smoothly. The eye-candy-only nav bar obscures text on any document longer than 1 page, so you have to page-down then scroll-up to read it...it's like one of those pop-on ads that stick to the reading frame wherever you scroll! You end up with something like 300x500 pixels worth of viewing space for your content.

You can't search anything worth searching here either. There's no search feature to find your placement on the leader board, nor a search feature to find the messages you've post (let's not even dream of an e-mail notification telling you when people have replied to your posts). Computers were practically invented to expedite searching.

And don't give me that crap about having too many people using the site. How many other sites do you see with such pathetic robustness? When's the last time Google went down? When's the last time battle.net went down? For a game that's grossed over $200 million, where all the visitors of the site have already paid at least $50 a pop for a user experience (and let's not forget Live subscription fees & overpriced controllers & headsets), you'd really expect to have a stats website that could be error free for more than 24 hours.

  • 01.07.2005 4:29 PM PDT
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I thought it was my eye turning to mush from playing too much Halo 2

  • 01.07.2005 4:36 PM PDT
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I kinda like the idea of starting over. I've played a few games that screwed up my record, standbys, and rapeage games, etc, and I wouldn't mind a fresh start, but they are gonna restore the stats later on.

  • 01.07.2005 4:40 PM PDT
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Plz do wipe the stats.

  • 01.07.2005 4:40 PM PDT
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I know dude...This site never freakin works. 9 out of 10 times I check my stats..somethings broken.

  • 01.07.2005 5:42 PM PDT
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my gamertag is IceOshovah. My clan, Clan ODST 420, is a small ranked clan, but its stats never show at all. Now of course, all of my stats and my friends don't show. I can't even find my clan info at all anymore.

Will bungie please tell me whats going on?
Or give me a e-mail to contact

  • 01.07.2005 5:48 PM PDT
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y do we lose lvls when we lose so many games its unfair to have to get all those lvls back was corrently 10 but drop to 7 fast becasue of team

  • 01.07.2005 7:02 PM PDT
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Is anyone else seriously frustrated with this crap? To anyone who thought Halo 2 was overhyped...Bungie.net is wickedly, extraordinarily overhyped. The Gameviewer, the RSS feed, the new Bungie.net layout, and all of our Halo 2 XBL stats in general were supposed to be sweet & awesome features, and honestly, they're all broken.

Halo2 was never [color=red]over-hyped[/color] buddy. If you don't like it, don't complain to other people. No one wants to hear your crap. Halo 2 lived up to, and surpassed every sigle one of my expectations. Another thing I'm sick of is people posting how they are so worried about their stats. If Bungie wants to wipe the stats that's fine with me, and if they don't that's also fine. It doesn't really matter what anyone thinks either beacse if Bungie wants to wipe the stats they must have a good reason.

If Bungie could please post an answer on if they are or are not wiping the stats it would end a lot of confusion and rumors. [color=green]Thank you Bungie!!![/color]

  • 01.07.2005 7:36 PM PDT
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THE STATS ARE WHAT KEEP ME ADDICTED TO HALO'S ONLINE MULTIPLAYER. IT GIVES ME THE SAME EXHILARATION AS GAINING LEVELS IN RPG'S. IF THE STATS ARE NOT CAREER BASED AND NOT PERMANENT THEN I WILL LOSE EVERYTHING I LOVE ABOUT THE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER EXPERIENCE. HAVEING NO STATS IS LIKE GOING BACK TO THE "N64 007" DAYS.

  • 01.07.2005 8:18 PM PDT
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quit crying people. when you have millions of users getting on the server and you can do it without a -blam!- up., then do it. otherwise stfu.

  • 01.07.2005 8:24 PM PDT
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Hi all,

We think that all of today's weirdness is now fixed; it started with a network switch hardware failure this morning, which got some servers in a bad state that seems to be taken care of now, but we'll be keeping an eye on it.

Additionally, regarding the "no stats available" you've occasionally seen in the past, we have some performance optimizations to roll out early next week that that we think will fix them while allowing us to show you all your old games again, not just the top 250 like you see now. The other games aren't gone, just hidden at the moment.

Thanks for your patience while we grow to accommodate the ever-increasing Halo 2 player base!

EDIT: ... Unfortunately, we're still having difficulty getting the leaderboard information from Xbox Live, so rather than risk instability to bungie.net while leaderboard requests pile up, we're going to leave leaderboards off for now, until we can identify the source of the timeouts. Remember, you can still view the details of the most recent games you played to see your then-current level in that hopper.

[Edited on 1/7/2005 10:45:12 PM]

  • 01.07.2005 9:51 PM PDT
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Actually, I still have a "no games played" reply (I can see the games, tough) and no friend displayed...

  • 01.08.2005 12:19 AM PDT
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I agree that Bungie.net has had a lot of issues, but people forget no other xbox game goes this far w/ stats and other stuff. U tech nerds need to quit being whiny little girls and play some Halo 2. BTW, whoever uses the plasma pistol/battle rifle combo is a sissy girly man.

  • 01.08.2005 12:45 AM PDT
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wow! bugie overlord u rock u must try really hard to do this when i grow up i wanna be like u U ROCK

  • 01.08.2005 5:55 AM PDT
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umm yeah i was in a clan, and my level was 9, and this kid told me to join his clan. ifound out most of my live friends were in that clan , so i switched. immediatelly my level went down to 6. what the hells goin on?

  • 01.08.2005 6:10 AM PDT
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A yea u said it would be done yesturday aa there are no stats at all....In ANYTHING come on guys !!!

  • 01.08.2005 6:51 AM PDT
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sry bout that sucking thing

  • 01.08.2005 6:52 AM PDT
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Alright. so how long do you think it will be till they get back up and running (i.e. the stats). have a nice day

  • 01.08.2005 8:50 AM PDT
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dude just chill you still go online and check ur stats online when u play the games so just chill.

  • 01.08.2005 9:14 AM PDT
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Yea the guy at bungie just -blam!- tease us with stats every other time i check them. It makes me a sad panda.

  • 01.08.2005 9:27 AM PDT
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ps. 12:30 pm the day after the supposed "fix" I still can't retrieve my stats is this just me or is this a common theme.

  • 01.08.2005 9:31 AM PDT
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i can't get mine either but as the bungie.net overlord said in the first post that they are working on the problem

  • 01.08.2005 10:13 AM PDT

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