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Subject: Say YES or NO to MA5B Assault Rifle RETURNING in Halo 2
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Ignore these four words.

I hate the assault rifle.. But it does have a really fun melee.

  • 06.12.2004 6:20 PM PDT
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I don't mind if AR ain't returning but I love to see a gun similar to it with louder and more realistic noise. I like to see an AK47 in Halo 2 ...that would be awesome. I don't know about the Carbine replacing the pistol ....why the hell when you zoom in u get only a single shot, that makes no sense to me.

What Halo 2 need are loud realistic gun sounds. As much as people like the game, Halo 1 gun noises suck big time, you got to admit that. People tend to look over that just because the game is fun...but not me.

  • 06.12.2004 8:08 PM PDT
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Its not MA5B it's a MA2B the smaller version.

  • 06.12.2004 8:21 PM PDT
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no i will not miss tha assault rifle we get to have the SMG plus u get to duel wield them too
thats two upgraded assault rifles with new looks THATS REAL SON!!

  • 06.12.2004 9:23 PM PDT

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Yes it should come back. Those of you who keep saying you hate it and that it sucks just don't know how to use it correctly. Maybe it's that YOU suck with it. Think about that.

  • 06.12.2004 9:26 PM PDT
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I am going to have to go with.....no. The assualt rifle shouldn't return to Halo 2. Besides if we already have the SMG it seems kind of pointless to put the AR in Halo 2 too.

  • 06.12.2004 9:44 PM PDT
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I dont think im gonna use it so it would just be a waste

  • 06.12.2004 9:45 PM PDT
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I think the AR will be back, and the regular marines will be using it, because I dont think a weapon would simply go out of stock, especially if its the Military standard. Thats like saying if a new weapon came out, two weeks from now the M16 wouldn't be used anywhere, I mean like c'mon, it may be a video game, but i dont think bungie would completely get rid of a weapon, they simply give it to the marines. lol

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  • 06.12.2004 10:04 PM PDT

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MA5B will be back cause its what balances out the plasma rifle and a new pistol that shoots slugs at probally about 2 every 1 time a plasma pistol can be charged and do the same damage see balance chart below

AR=Plasma Rifle
BR=Covie Carbine
SMG= Needler
RL=fuel rod cannon
sniper= no idea
shotgun=no idea
(new pisol / old pistol redone)=Plasma pistol

  • 06.12.2004 10:06 PM PDT
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the AR sucks. yeah, its fun to mow down grunts, but its so inneffective.
you can do the same amount of damage with a plasma pistol. especially against covenant. but i agree they should leave it in there. just cuz.

  • 06.12.2004 10:09 PM PDT
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The only time I really use the AR is in the lower difficulty levels of campaign mode. In multiplayer I dump it for almost any other weapon ASAP just because it's range and accurracy just stink. I'd much rather carry a pistol (which is just about everybody's staple weapon) and a shotgun than a pistol and an AR. Since the battle rifle is probably gonna replace the pistol (at least as far as I'm concerned), whether the AR is there or not makes almost no difference to me since I'd trade it for a shotgun anyway. I seriously don't understand why people would WANT to keep the AR around when we could get it replaced with something better, but it doesn't really matter to me either way.

  • 06.12.2004 10:18 PM PDT
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I'd just the same use a shot gun and battle rifle/pistol combo.

  • 06.12.2004 10:20 PM PDT
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One way the Assault Rifle could return is if it becomes the equivalent of the Brutes weapon. Just add a grenade laucher on it so the grenades explode on impact. This could bring new usefulness and also add a new gun into the fray that would be worth using. Hit someone with a grendade then finish them off with rounds.

  • 06.12.2004 10:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shadow_WarriorX
Asolutely NO. The Halo 1 AR was a horrible gun even Bungie dissed on that gun in their own MP walkthrough! They said how some would use a empty pistol to melee with over a AR and I would agree. The Battle Rifle is so much better anyways it has a scope it has more power (the AR fired 7.62 mm rounds but the BR fires 9.5 mm rounds) it fires in bursts (which is really the only way to use the Halo 1 AR effectivley). The SMG is much better than the AR but has less range it has unhuman rate of fire and Subnova even compared it to a flamethrower (rips things to pieces up close but cant be counted on at a distance) so is there any need for the AR?
couldn't have said it better myself.

  • 06.12.2004 10:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: Terradyne
The thing with AR that was so great was that the melee was very fast. I could get in two good melee strike where I could only get one with the pistol. Since there is a similar size between the SMG and the pistol, I can't help but assume the SMG is gonna have the same melee rate, which would suck. Hopefully, they'll have some other firearm in the game with a super fast melee. Also, my fondest memories of the original halo was circle-strafing around a jackal's sheild and open up right in it's -blam-ed up face. You can prolly figure out what goes in that blank.
you idiot! the plasma pistol has the fastest melee! try it for yourself!

  • 06.12.2004 10:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: bakerboy080
I would say yes but theres too many new weapons coming out that it would just suck real bad. I mean battle rifle,smg,they make the ma5b assault rifle a unwanted weapon like the stupid alien pistle that i hate so much
well -blam!- you the plasma pistol kicks ass!!!!!

  • 06.12.2004 10:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: The Real Deal
you idiot! the plasma pistol has the fastest melee! try it for yourself!


I think he is referring to the human pistol. It is pretty slow for melee.

AR will be (or at least should be) back. The AR is great for taking out large groups of Grunts and Jackals. While ineffective against an Elites shields, if you simply combine the AR with a plasma pistol, it can be effective. Just use the pistol to kill the shields, and then unload half a clip into them, and they are down. The AR is MEANT to fill the air with bullets, so make use of it how its meant to be used.

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  • 06.12.2004 11:04 PM PDT
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I tired of all these Halo 2 players saying how much the Battle Rifle "will rock". Personally i will not be using it because of it slow rate of fire( Burst mode ). I am a sniper and when the enemy is mid-close range i swap to MA5B AR and render them useless in a frenzy of bullets and blood. I admit it has it's accuracy problems but have you ever seen a Tank/Warthog/Ghost coming for you in the distance and knowing that you are pretty much dead untill you pull out an AR and load a clip into the drivers cockpit.HA HA HA!
I think they should keep the AR for Halo 2 but MC can't pick it up.

  • 06.12.2004 11:21 PM PDT
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First of all the AR rocked and how does a gun that is the standard gun just disppear in 1 month time they would hatf to put it in there for that reason alone .So i say yes the AR will be in halo 2.

And tazza and why the hell wouldnt the MC wouldnt be able to pick it up that would suck even more so if it wasnt in there.

[Edited on 6/13/2004 12:27:09 AM]

  • 06.13.2004 12:25 AM PDT
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AR didnt suck if you used it correctly.
Id rather use the AR close range then Shotgun simply because it dosent need reloading every shot and is possible to dodge the shell.

  • 06.13.2004 3:26 AM PDT
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Shadow_WarriorX didnt understand my point about the AR being the most common piece of artilery for the Marines on the Halo ring and then returning to earth to not find one in sight (Halo 2). That has nothing to do with upgraded banshees and ghosts and an added race to the covenant (which could definately be achieved with the advanced technology of the covenant, and they could have saved they're brutes for the attack of earth. A peice of weaponry is totally different and my point made complete sense. Also, I never said "they could just replace a whole gun in a few months". That is also possible, I'm sure the whole UNMC have more guns (my father was US Air Force for 20 years, I've seen alot myself) than we can count. I know I'm talking a bit "too realistic" and its just a video game, but what I'm saying is that for the whole Halo war, just about every soildier who participated used the AR and there where hundreds layin around. Now all of a sudden, when we drop back to our home planet, there's none to be seen (Unless the AR was produced on the Halo ring). I know I'm getting too technical here, but it was a very small point I made earlier when discussing the importance and significance of the AR in the Halo games, but the other guy tried to contest it for some reason. I made perfect sense and I'm confident about that. I know I probably went too in depth and its just a game and all, but it was just a small fact to attribute to the importance of possibly bringing the AR back. I just dont want all of you opposing it to be choking on your words and realise after teh 5th level of Halo 2 to be saying, "I miss the AR right about now". But then again, I could just be panicking because I want this game to be the best and I love guns. I dont just want the old to be replaced with the new cause I'm sick of looking at the old. I'm not a kid, I'm a grown man at 25 and I'm definately not a computer geek. I'm a popular guy with lots of interests, basketball, rapping and videogames, so I really do appreciate creativity as I am a perfectionist. All I'm saying is, if somebody wants to say something, they should really sit back and think about what they're saying and be able to justify it because other people are involved and we should all listen to eachother's thoughts intelligently.

  • 06.13.2004 5:03 AM PDT
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Ok the AR is a good weaponn cos every one has been claiming that it is crap with the fact that on legendary and heroic it is useless, but in fact if you people had brains you would be able to figure out that it was one of the most effective combo weapons if used with the plasma pistol due to the fact that you can take down a shield of an elite with the plasma pistol and then blast the hell out of the elite with your AR!!!

  • 06.13.2004 5:18 AM PDT
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Bungie said that the Battle Rifle is the NEW AR. They will balance it, and I'm dead sure it will rock hard. Single shot zoom, and 3 round burst, itll also be more powerfull, watch out grunts.

  • 06.13.2004 5:44 AM PDT
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I AGREE, GO 3 SHOT BURST AR GUN YEAH!!!!

  • 06.13.2004 7:06 AM PDT
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what about if you just saw marines using them now and then in campaign? would you guys be ok with that and the only way to use it is if that marine dies? its quite realistic too as they can rearm the entire UNSC forces with battle rifles in such a small time

  • 06.13.2004 7:08 AM PDT

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