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I have at minimum 25 User names and passwords to various sites, I jst flat out remeber them all in my head.

I have:

Ebay
Paypal
4 main e-mail accts and 10+ backups
Pogo.com
hackthissite.org
halo3.junk.ws
Bnet - 2 accts
Team-vbi.net
cod4forums.com
youtube.com
photobucket.com
myspace.com
xbox.com
2 old runescape accts from a few years back - 40 Mil still on 1 acct
at least 5 more WLID's for GT's I've had
mininova.org
techieguides.com
yahoo.com for fantasy sports

and probably a few more I just can't remember atm.

I remember them all in my head and they aren't all the same either.

  • 01.29.2008 2:51 PM PDT

Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

Uh, that's because they are. If you think otherwise, you are in denial.

For example, say your trusted computer is used (by yourself) to play some cool new game demo you got off of a magazine's demo disc. Let's say this disc had been compromised, and installs a trojan or keylogger on your machine. You'd have no idea, and you'd be screwed, because you're running as an admin and totally gave it permission to install and run with admin privs.

This is why even in a trusted environment, you still should regularly change your passwords and run virus scans and spyware scans, and not do stupid things like run as an administrator all the time.

Posted by: Big Black Bear
That's how all network admins sound... They think that everyone is out to get them.

Personally, I take every opportunity I (logically) can to save my passwords on the computer I'm using. I say that knowing that any computer I save my passwords on is not accessible to anyone I don't see on a daily basis and fully trust.

  • 01.29.2008 3:00 PM PDT

Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

No, that is likely fine (the double sign in thing isn't something you should worry about).

And the save password checkbox isn't related to it - you just shouldn't ever check that box. Ever.

Posted by: High Truth
Firefox, even Windows isn't set to save passwords or enter my information into appropriate fields. It does remember my email address (but that should be fine, on my personal computer, right?) but never the password. I log in my password each time. Soemtimes though, this still happens where it reloads the page but I have to click sign in again for B.net to recognize that I am actually signed in......Am I still at some sort of risk? Should I turn off "Remember my Username?" function?

  • 01.29.2008 3:03 PM PDT
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Oh. I run as an admin 100% of the time but I do have a limited guest acct on this Laptop also. But I'm also in the field, so I'm not the easiest person to trick.

Also I have an entire school of computer ppl whenever I need them.

And make sure your viruses are updated everyday.


EDIT - I never check them boxes ^^^^^

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  • 01.29.2008 3:03 PM PDT
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Ok, so I heard somewhere that you SHOULD put save password. Why? Because if you have a keylogger installed on your computer nobody will ever know what your password is.

I am guessing now that I am completely wrong and that I should 100% stop doing that. Why don't they put warning messages near that button? Well anyways, are there any free spyware/virus scan tests that I can undergo? Because I am suspicious I may have a keylogger, but I don't want to fork over $100 (because I would have to ask my parents to do that) unless there is something actually installed on my computer.

  • 01.29.2008 3:05 PM PDT

Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

Well, you can't run as a non-admin user in XP - you won't get anything done. But in Vista, you don't need to be. And User Account Control, much as people hate it, is a good idea for most people who don't know much about security on computers. But you shouldn't turn it off, you should alter its settings (there are utilities that can help you with that).

And to the guy who said his passport isn't saving his email despite him checking the box - that's likely because you have set your browser to delete cookies when you close the browser - or your machine or network admin as done that for you.

Posted by: PyRo Tek NikS
Oh. I run as an admin 100% of the time but I do have a limited guest acct on this Laptop also. But I'm also in the field, so I'm not the easiest person to trick.

Also I have an entire school of computer ppl whenever I need them.

And make sure your viruses are updated everyday.

  • 01.29.2008 3:06 PM PDT
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Wow thanks. I am running XP ( you probably already know that)

I'd upgrade to vista but it would be like a downgrade.

And yes my guest acct you can't hardly do anything on. No in stallations or anything like that.

Thanks and I'll look into that further.

  • 01.29.2008 3:10 PM PDT

From everything I have read in these posts, your problems could be fixed by using Mozilla Firefox, instead of Internet Explorer.

  • 01.29.2008 3:20 PM PDT

Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

Kind of offtopic...

Vista isn't really as bad as people say. Most of the problems I've seen people deal with involve them installing it on computers that shouldn't have it. Basically, there isn't any reason to "upgrade" to Vista on a computer that has XP - Vista is really meant for new computers that are top of the line - it really shines when you try not to put it only older hardware (even hardware from 5 months ago). And you should use the 64 bit version of it with 4 gigs of RAM, IMHO... otherwise there just isn't a point.

This is different from Win 98 to XP or 2000 to XP - there were very compelling reasons to upgrade that are immediately apparent to the user in the form of stability and performance. Vista can't promise that, and mostly just looks different on first inspection, and thus without any other "big ticket" items (aside from useful 64 bit support), it fails to inspire. But it does okay, as long as you follow the rules for Vista: don't try to run it anything made before Halo 3 was released (no, really), run it in 64 bit, run it with 4 gigs of RAM.

Posted by: PyRo Tek NikS
Wow thanks. I am running XP ( you probably already know that)

I'd upgrade to vista but it would be like a downgrade.

And yes my guest acct you can't hardly do anything on. No in stallations or anything like that.

Thanks and I'll look into that further.

  • 01.29.2008 3:20 PM PDT

Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

Then you're not reading correctly.

People who think Firefox is more secure than IE are full of it. They're like the people who think that all wheel drive cars enable them to drive full speed when it is icy on the roads.

Both deserve what they get.

Posted by: halofreak33
From everything I have read in these posts, your problems could be fixed by using Mozilla Firefox, instead of Internet Explorer.

  • 01.29.2008 3:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cockburnicus
You missed the point like Vader missed the banshee, your whole argument is covered in bees.
Stop sending me group invites -blam!-s!

I never do that for my email addresses but I do it for accounts like social networking sites and photobucket etc. But I use FireFox's password auto-logger. Is there any risk there? Apart from the physicality of someone loging onto your computer. As far as outside attacks are concerned am I at risk?

Also if a keylogger was installed on my computer the fact that I never have to type my passwords should stop people from seeing them?

  • 01.29.2008 3:22 PM PDT

Completly off-topic so forgive me, but does bungie actually use Vista? I bought a vista as a develpment pc for C++, C#, but it quickly turned into the family pc.

I can't immagine Bungie getting anything done in Vista.

  • 01.29.2008 3:23 PM PDT

I'm sure alot of my problems could had been fixed with a little of work. My biggest problem is with accidently opening up ZIPs in Internet Explorer. Crashes every time.

I actually don't even use Firefox. I prefer Safari, but I don't know why.

  • 01.29.2008 3:25 PM PDT
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Yes the keylogger can't affect you unless you well touch a key. I've never heard of any other way it could work.

Thanks again for the info ^^^^^

I have a dell Inspirion E1705 laptop with 2 GB of ram.


EDIT - Back on topic now (where I should be)

[Edited on 01.29.2008 3:29 PM PST]

  • 01.29.2008 3:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cockburnicus
You missed the point like Vader missed the banshee, your whole argument is covered in bees.
Stop sending me group invites -blam!-s!

Posted by: PyRo Tek NikS
Yes the keylogger can't affect you unless you well touch a key. I've never heard of any other way it could work.

Thanks again for the info ^^^^^

I have a dell Inspirion E1705 laptop with 2 GB of ram.
Dells are the cheap sluts of the computer industry.

  • 01.29.2008 3:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: Achronos
Then you're not reading correctly.

People who think Firefox is more secure than IE are full of it. They're like the people who think that all wheel drive cars enable them to drive full speed when it is icy on the roads.

Both deserve what they get.



True... Firefox just enabled a lot of different features to make a more "custom" browser.

I don't condone it's use, I personally use it and prefer it... but that's just me. Now the Man's gonna smite me down... tell my family I love them!

  • 01.29.2008 3:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Yoozel
Posted by: Achronos
Then you're not reading correctly.

People who think Firefox is more secure than IE are full of it. They're like the people who think that all wheel drive cars enable them to drive full speed when it is icy on the roads.

Both deserve what they get.



True... Firefox just enabled a lot of different features to make a more "custom" browser.

I don't condone it's use, I personally use it and prefer it... but that's just me. Now the Man's gonna smite me down... tell my family I love them!


Ya lots of ppl think its safer. I have it on this computer but I never use it.

Time to go install CS3!

  • 01.29.2008 3:40 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
People who think Firefox is more secure than IE are full of it. They're like the people who think that all wheel drive cars enable them to drive full speed when it is icy on the roads.


When IE can run greasemonkey, adblock and noscript, i'll happily convert back. Till then IE can keep its flashing ads and rickroll scripts.

[Edited on 01.29.2008 3:42 PM PST]

  • 01.29.2008 3:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
People who think Firefox is more secure than IE are full of it. They're like the people who think that all wheel drive cars enable them to drive full speed when it is icy on the roads.


When IE can run greasemonkey, adblock and noscript, i'll happily convert back. Till then IE can keep its flashing ads and rickroll scripts.


IE is fine. Firefox might run a little more efficient though. What is rick roll anyways?

  • 01.29.2008 3:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Achronos
Then you're not reading correctly.

People who think Firefox is more secure than IE are full of it. They're like the people who think that all wheel drive cars enable them to drive full speed when it is icy on the roads.

Both deserve what they get.

Posted by: halofreak33
From everything I have read in these posts, your problems could be fixed by using Mozilla Firefox, instead of Internet Explorer.


Reguardless of the security you must admit it comes with alot more features. I can't believe that you prefer IE.

In my own modest oppinion:
The companies should agree on one and make it good.

  • 01.29.2008 3:50 PM PDT

yoo•zel- ('yoo-zhul): slang: vb.

Officium quod Fidelitas.

Really... Bungie should just develop it's own browser... it'd be one step closer to World Domination.

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Posted by: Achronos
Then you're not reading correctly.

People who think Firefox is more secure than IE are full of it. They're like the people who think that all wheel drive cars enable them to drive full speed when it is icy on the roads.

Both deserve what they get.

Posted by: halofreak33
From everything I have read in these posts, your problems could be fixed by using Mozilla Firefox, instead of Internet Explorer.


I really don't use Firefox, but it is a browser equal to or better than IE. For me IE has had flash player problems, so I had to download a special plugin to use it on any website with flash content. As far as I am concerned though, Firefox is being more rapidly updated and will most likely beat out IE in the long run. Oh, and yes mozilla has more security add-ons than IE, but out of the box (figure of speech) they are both about the same.

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  • 01.29.2008 3:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: PyRo Tek NikS
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Posted by: Achronos
People who think Firefox is more secure than IE are full of it. They're like the people who think that all wheel drive cars enable them to drive full speed when it is icy on the roads.


When IE can run greasemonkey, adblock and noscript, i'll happily convert back. Till then IE can keep its flashing ads and rickroll scripts.


IE is fine. Firefox might run a little more efficient though. What is rick roll anyways?

I'm partial to Firefox. I blame Achilles for getting me started on it, I used to be an IE kind of guy till I found out if you accidentally clicked a link and pressed the back button, you'd still have your text there.

Rock Roll was a very popular way to spam a little less than a year ago. Thousands of people posted links to it, and Thousands got banned for it. Just search on youtube.

Edit: No problem PyRo. (Below)

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  • 01.29.2008 3:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Yoozel
Really... Bungie should just develop it's own browser... it'd be one step closer to World Domination.


I'd use it.

Anyways ppl if IPv6 holds up in the future, then life on the net will be 50x better.


Ty rokit ^^^^^

[Edited on 01.29.2008 3:59 PM PST]

  • 01.29.2008 3:58 PM PDT

Posted by: Yoozel
Really... Bungie should just develop it's own browser... it'd be one step closer to World Domination.


If you ever TRY to spam on the forums, a ninja would drop down and assassinate you before you can click submit.

I like the idea!

  • 01.29.2008 3:59 PM PDT

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