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SB-117

cool but how are they gonna extract such a hard material from the core of jupiter??? It would be hard because diamond is so hard that its difficult to crack from the core and also the pressure and heat must be enourmous.

  • 06.12.2004 8:26 PM PDT
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see, when u take it into the context of A Space Oddessy, it really would be an absolute fluke. What would need to be done is pretty much explode (or implode) jupitor.

EDIT- to do so you would have to add massive weight to the planet in minutes

[Edited on 6/12/2004 8:28:03 PM]

  • 06.12.2004 8:27 PM PDT

SB-117

Lol that would screw up all the other planets and possibly knock earth out of the green zone. I doubt they would do that LMFAO

ok i just saw the edit-

[Edited on 6/12/2004 8:29:14 PM]

  • 06.12.2004 8:28 PM PDT
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Sorry to get off topic, but, doesn't this belong in either the Library or the Flood, and why did you make the topic "youve got mail"?

  • 06.12.2004 8:43 PM PDT
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well, we are talking about the possiblity of future technologies, so we are on topic, just like a sub topic. As well, if jupitor did implode, with enough mass added, it could turn into a mini sun (which would barely effect us), but might make more of the outer planets.. dare i say habitable (this is all based on facts). It could happen.

  • 06.12.2004 8:49 PM PDT
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cool but i dont know how you could do that...Get it out and then replace it...

  • 06.12.2004 8:50 PM PDT
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Yeah sorry there Let Me Live but i gotta let you die on this one. The capability to extract anything from the core of Jupiter would far surpass any technology necessary for a space elevator. THe elevator is a veritable concept (geo-syncronis obit along the equator or somthing) and VERY strong material would be needed (stronger than anything we know of today -i think kevlar is still the strongest & safest thing going). If you wanted to make diamonds tho, there is an easier process than going to the center and dealing with the pressure of a gas giant. They aritficaially can make small diamonds (it takes up to several years to get one and they are slightly different in compsition than real geological diamonds).

Anyways it is assumed in the Bungie-verse that things evolved (if I get this right) over the need for people to get away from earth due to overpopulation, then wars broke out among the solar system colonies (probably all wanted back on earth and earth's citizens we're like "no way we're too many as is!"). After a bit, faster-than-light travel was made possible and this was the answer to man's problems of habitable land. At first it was trepadatious but then waves of people living in spacecolonies and those on Mars, the moon, moons of Jupiter and other Sol destinations including many from the overcrowded Earth started to Colonize other planets and Reach was borne.(this is all just my ramblings please forgive me if I'm not accurate with Halo/Bungie lore)

Think of the resources... think how valuable a whole 'nother livable planet would be (...with all it's diamonds and without). If we find one, just right with blue and green and in the "goldielocks zone" of a solar system, the challenge is getting to one (because the nearest system with today's tech would take 100, 000 years to get to... and before Light-Speed i doubt they could've trimmed it down consdierably.

This is why I think the Covie's are so counter-intuitive. They glass planets and keep their shards as tokens. What could be more wrong?

Anyways... whoa that was a lot.

  • 06.12.2004 8:58 PM PDT

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"faster than light travel" is impossible. To go at speeds so fast would just destroy you. However I think the most likely way of travelling at such speeds is to build two gates far apart. You could pull the matter and space from one gate and make it reach the other and then simply step through and "teleport" the the other gate. However you would have to install both gates to begin with.

  • 06.12.2004 9:04 PM PDT
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Uh.. whoa. In order for Jupiter to form as a small star it would need more mass (pretty much plain and simple gaseous Hydrogen and a whole lot of it). And I think that it might be too late for that kind of transformation to occur anyway. All though it would be cool particularly for Mars and for eath (we'd have two suns!). But... more mass to Jupiter would mean more gravity and that might disrupt our systems orbits and most probably would result in the coliiding of the Sun and the Jupiter-star.

  • 06.12.2004 9:06 PM PDT

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Well ash if that gate and portal thingy gets you to your destination faster than a beam of light would then it could be categorized as FTL. Doesn't matter how you get there as long as it's fast (and condusive all around to human living!) !

and yo what's up with the title of this thread. Change it to something cool.

  • 06.12.2004 9:09 PM PDT

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i think going faster than light speed has something to do with black holes they have enough gravity to stretch light if u mad an engine out of that ul could throw ur self straight to any place u want and u would need that big of a black hole just one big enough to push to sling shot around it

  • 06.12.2004 9:18 PM PDT
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i thought i stated it would need a lot more mass (like alot alot alot!). As well, no dont kill it. My sub-topic is cool. Anywho, the strongest material known to man IS nano-carbon, (i dont know if u can build stuff like armour and crap outta it...) and it is a reality. Thx for adding the stuff about geosynchris orbit and stuff. As well again, it would be man or some other species.... adding the material, it wouldnt be a natural explosion of Jupitor. Second, i am not sayin going in and getting it (i even think thats physically impossible for ever) but that if jupitor exploded or imploded, there is a possibility that the core (or a chunk of it) could be shot out. I just think its really interesting.

  • 06.12.2004 9:19 PM PDT
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Well ash if that gate and portal thingy gets you to your destination faster than a beam of light would then it could be categorized as FTL. Doesn't matter how you get there as long as it's fast (and condusive all around to human living!) !

and yo what's up with the title of this thread. Change it to something cool.


Yeah it is FTL travel i agree. My physics teacher told me about the portal things and how its probably one of the most likely ways to travel. And it sounded like a good idea i wanted to bring up here.

  • 06.12.2004 9:28 PM PDT
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The gate thing sounds cool, but if i got the jist of it, wouldnt everything in between be effected??

  • 06.12.2004 9:29 PM PDT
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i think going faster than light speed has something to do with black holes they have enough gravity to stretch light if u mad an engine out of that ul could throw ur self straight to any place u want and u would need that big of a black hole just one big enough to push to sling shot around it


It doesnt stretch light i dont think, it just has enough gravity to pull the particles to create light (photons i think) into the black hole. besides halo uses slip stream. I think its somekind of thing where you travel along another dimension to get there FAST maybe a dimension where the universe is smalller maybe? can someone tell me what slipstream REALLY is?

  • 06.12.2004 9:31 PM PDT
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The gate thing sounds cool, but if i got the jist of it, wouldnt everything in between be effected??


possibly but i think it stretches just the space and matter from the other gate right up to the otehr gate without squashing anything or disturbing anything...i dunno

  • 06.12.2004 9:32 PM PDT
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I don't know if Bungie has fleshed slipstream out enough (i hope it has something to do with super String theory... that'd be cool!) and sorry Let me live I didn't see that you had said that part about adding mass. And if we are talking like strong as in like tensile strength then I think kevlar takes the prize (unless it is presently possible to conivibly have a 10 or 50 or 100 mile long cord/cable of it (that of course wont break).

  • 06.12.2004 9:40 PM PDT

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large masses that spin have a Frame-dragging effect on space and time (check out NASA's Gravity probe-B experiment). Black holes exhibit this and it is one way that we can see that they are there because they emit no light what-so-ever and all light that isn't engulfed by it's gravity well then is "bent" around it (check out "Einstein Rings").

  • 06.12.2004 9:43 PM PDT
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the year is 2552, youd think theyd have better than a pump action shotgun..

  • 06.12.2004 9:44 PM PDT

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i think slipspstream is the exact opposite of space didnt the book say it was white or soemthin and that the 2 affected each other (space and slipstrean) like how when they came out of slipstream it caused a ripple in space i think slipspace is where a ship goes so fast space can no longer contain its matter and it "slips space" and goes into a place where there is only matter that is going at that speed so everything is excellerated and causes it to be unaccurate (unless ur a covie) and slide through normal objects without effecting them and when u come to a stop the mixture of the two spaces cause stuff to move ripple out and disrupt the balance

i have no idea if this makes anysense or has anything to do with anything

  • 06.12.2004 9:49 PM PDT
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Nah, I think the technology they have for Halo makes a lot of sense. I mean, gunpowder has been the mainstay for weapons for something like the last 4 or 5 centuries and even with all of today's advancements it's not going anywhere anytime soon. All that's really changed about guns and gunpowder is how they are utilized. As for the vehicles, we're already reaching the threshold in modern times for how much functionality a military vehicle can have. You put too much capability in a combat vehicle and all you end up doing is confusing soldiers with too much data and diffusing the overall effectiveness of the vehicle. Some of the elements of the technology in Halo actually make perfect sense since military technology contantly goes through the cycle of making something better than someone else, that something being made obselete by opposing devolopments, and then the cycle repeats itself. Since the human tech is based on projectiles and defense against projectiles, it makes sense that basically everything (including the early stages of the Mjolnir Mark V armor) is designed to resist projectiles. Only when faced with a superior technology (the Covenant's energy weapons) does the human technology need to make the next big leap (i.e., Master Chief's shields). Also, since the only really big advancement between now and the time of Halo is the development of faster-than-light travel and it's incorporation into combat, there's really no reason why human ground-based combat technology would change all that much.

  • 06.12.2004 10:36 PM PDT
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ok about slipstream. The idea is that there is another dimension (well 11 but lets focus). So, in this so called "slipspace" there is nothing to slip on per say. I think it goes along the universe line thingy magig that somebody stated before. Pretty much, it is a super compressed universe. What is interesting though is that gravity still effects it. And that crystal with gravity bending abilities technically can change time as well, because of the way it effects gravity. Mabye Im onto somethin here... anybody ever talked about if gravity actually effects time?

  • 06.12.2004 10:41 PM PDT
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the year is 2552, youd think theyd have better than a pump action shotgun..

ya i know

hey this guy knows how to shoot the -blam!-
awesome!

  • 06.13.2004 6:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: dai vest ore
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if halo 2 takes place so far ahead
why are their still normal looking vehciles and weapons



if it aint broke, dont fix it................you know what i mean

  • 06.13.2004 6:17 AM PDT
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no i dont

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