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Subject: Ranked Big Team Battle is Live in Halo 3

this is going to be AWESOME. i can finally get those "impossible" to get achievements (we're in for some chop). YAY, one more day until i can play (i am grounded).
i am the 1st one on the 4th page:)

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[Edited on 01.31.2008 2:34 PM PST]

  • 01.31.2008 2:20 PM PDT

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I'm very excited to have a new ranked playlist, and i love playing on sandtrap and valhalla. But..... I really have a hard time putting up with the lag that comes with a 16 player match. Even though it is very small amounts of lag... i just cant take it.

  • 01.31.2008 2:26 PM PDT

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I am glad BTB is finally ranked but confused as to why the connection sucks so bad... Five games played all five 16 yellow bars... why is connection worse in ranked than unranked?

  • 01.31.2008 2:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: Smith 50K
I am glad BTB is finally ranked but confused as to why the connection sucks so bad... Five games played all five 16 yellow bars... why is connection worse in ranked than unranked?

Because of guests, guests share a connection, but everybody is spread out in different regions in Ranked BTB.

  • 01.31.2008 2:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Clarkosaur
Wow Bungie, you fail again. Not like I'm surprised at this point.

Where to begin? You say the focus will be on Slayer. Awesome. We're already off to a horrible start. Yet, despite the focus on Slayer gametypes, you choose to still limit the playlist to three whole maps. Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. We'll never, ever get a game on Standoff or Rat's Nest, so you can exlcude those from the list of playable maps. And all the "Covies" variants do is actually make Valhalla and Sandtrap even less fun than they were to begin with, which is quite an achievement in and of itself.

Where is BTB Slayer on Highground? Slayer on Isolation? We can play H2 BTB Slayer on Lockout and Midship but we can't get some medium-largish maps in this playlist for the sake of variety?

The only good thing I saw in the update was that the playlist would apparently be all BR starts. At least you did something right.


I think the Slayer focus is to promote usage, which is an obvious thing given that Slayer seems to be far and away the most popular gametype in Halo 3, even more so than it was in Halo 2. Hopefully as time goes by people will begin to migrate from Slayer over to more interesting gametypes, and the weighting can be adjusted. I really think the problem with objective right now is that so many of the newer players won't even try it. With this playlist being a mix, hopefully it will show them the "way".

With regards to there being only 2 maps, let's think back to Halo 1. How many maps in that game fit well with BTB? Really only 3, Blood Gultch, Sidewinder, and maybe Hang 'em High. And that never got old. Although Sandtrap probably isn't as strong as those maps, I believe Valhalla is definitely as good as Blood Gulch, and Rat's Nest has a lot of potential. Also, Covies is just fine, although the Wraith tank seems to be affected by lag quite a bit.

There was never Slayer on the small maps in Ranked BTB in Halo 2, so I don't know what that's about.

I also agree that BR starts is a good idea, especially on Sandtrap.

  • 01.31.2008 2:32 PM PDT

i believe they should merge social skirmish and rumble pit, idon't think there is much of a difference.

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  • 01.31.2008 2:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Poseidon19
I'm very excited to have a new ranked playlist, and i love playing on sandtrap and valhalla. But..... I really have a hard time putting up with the lag that comes with a 16 player match. Even though it is very small amounts of lag... i just cant take it.


I know. I've gone up to assasinate people before and they would glitch behind me and kill me instead.

  • 01.31.2008 2:33 PM PDT
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Although I personally don't have much interest in BTB but I'll give it a try since it's BR starts and slayer tilted.

Thanks!



[Edited on 01.31.2008 2:49 PM PST]

  • 01.31.2008 2:42 PM PDT

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sweet dude

  • 01.31.2008 2:43 PM PDT

now all we need is Grfiball in Social playlist and that might get people to stop playing CoD4

  • 01.31.2008 2:46 PM PDT
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  • 01.31.2008 2:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Smith 50K
I am glad BTB is finally ranked but confused as to why the connection sucks so bad... Five games played all five 16 yellow bars... why is connection worse in ranked than unranked?


I have always wondered this myself. It always seems that there are so many more "connection" problems in ranked games.

It could be that no guests are allowed and therefore unless two accounts are playing on the same box, that 16 actual boxes are in action (no guests).

Or it could be that ranked playlists bring out the cheaters...

  • 01.31.2008 2:58 PM PDT
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sweet ive already played it and its awesome except that my team never wins :( lol i went 30 and 15

  • 01.31.2008 3:02 PM PDT
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Is this such a good idea? I mean in the social play lists it made sense because a lot more people play social maps. Also, these tend to be the type of games which people lag out on; which before was annoying but now would just be terrible considering the matches are ranked and actually matter. So I'd probably have to pass on this. And if I want a big team slayer fix, I'd just head to the previously existing one, the one in social.

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  • 01.31.2008 3:07 PM PDT

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I don't see whats so wrong with the BR anyways, its probably the most used and one of the best weapons in Halo 3.

You are absolutely right, it is one of the best weapons of the game, but that's exactly why it should not be a spawn weapon in 100% of the btb games. The rocket launcher is an amazing weapon, but it wouldn't make much sense if everyone spawned with those! Do you see what I'm trying to say?


That is a very commonly used and extremely flawed analogy. Default settings or not the BR will still be the most saught after and most utilized weapon in BTB battle matches period. This is due in large part to its versatility and mid range efficiency especially on huge maps like Sandtrap.

The contrasting gameplay dynamics associated with BT BR starts in comparison to Rocket starts completely undermines your arguement here. While one places emphasis on aiming precision the other results in a random splash damage spam fest. No comparison.

Like I stated in my previous post with BTB now being ranked experienced players will be pitted against opponents of equal skill who are just as efficient or inept with the BR as they are so I really don't see what the problem is here.


I don't really care about precision, stratagy is the big deal for me, and weapon aquisition is intrinsic to that but weapon aquisition is hindered when you start off with a sought after weapon. I can see the value of it on very large maps, but having them as the starting weapon for 100% of the games is a bit much.


No offense but if you don't care about precision based gameplay and or aiming proficiency with a weapon than why are you even playing an FPS? And how exactly is weapon aquisition and strategy discouraged with BR starts? (a common general misconception).

On 1flag CTF on Last resort for example despite spawning with a BR I'm still going to make my way towards weapons such as the shotty, sniper, splaser, needler and even DW's if the situation favors it due to the distinct advantages that these weapons have over the BR.

What I personally love about BR starts is that every other weapon now takes on a more defining role in terms of situational application instead of players being forced to aquire them based on sheer desperation due to the limitations of the AR. I still get kills with the AR at mid range and in close quarters and I will pick up DW weapons if I anticipate running into multiple enemies in a confined area. Sure variety is lessened. But not to the degree in which all other weapons are rendered obsolete. They're just utlized in a way in which they were initially intented as far as I'm concerned.

  • 01.31.2008 3:09 PM PDT
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I am over the moon that bungie has eventually decided 2 allow ranked big team battle but still rather pissed of with the lag in matches is there not anything bungie can do 2 fix the lag as in sum games i have played already i can be shootin a guy in the head with a sniper 4 times and then he kills me ??

  • 01.31.2008 3:09 PM PDT

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After reading the update, it seems to me that this playlist should have been left unranked.

The maps and gametypes (Covies?) suggest it was designed for players who love to drive vehicles non-stop.

I have NOTHING against that, however, it doesn't warrant a large enough population to have a ranked playlist flourish.

And the same maps over and over?
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[Edited on 01.31.2008 3:11 PM PST]

  • 01.31.2008 3:11 PM PDT

I swear to DRUNK, I'm not GOD!

YAY!!!!! I LOVE YOU BUNGIE!!!! I LOVE YOU!!!! I'm gonna go play right now! Thank you SO much!!!!! *runs off to play beloved BTB!*

  • 01.31.2008 3:22 PM PDT
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I don't understand it, BTB is more liked than team SWAT the best gametype for the best gam in the world wtf?

Oh and you're all suck ups

[Edited on 01.31.2008 3:27 PM PST]

  • 01.31.2008 3:27 PM PDT

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  • 01.31.2008 3:28 PM PDT
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WTF! Covies! why, do people actually like playing ghost only CTF games. Becuas every time I'm on live people always veto Covies. Seriously Covies? That'll only work if you put the prowler and the banshee in there, not just ghosts and useless wraths. Come on Bungie it's one thing if you make a shi-tty game its another if you make a good one with shi-tty gametypes. If one of you Bungie guys are reading this pm me, I have a list of much better stuff you guys can use.

  • 01.31.2008 3:29 PM PDT
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Yes, it should have been left unranked only because of the lag. No offence but if your dumb enough to get into a vehical in covies or any game type your basically a big target for missile pods, rocket launchers and spartan lasers.

  • 01.31.2008 3:30 PM PDT
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sooo how will the new maps work with players like me who havent downloaded them yet?

  • 01.31.2008 3:34 PM PDT

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Finally! I'm tired of the teams in Social BTB being horribly unfair. And hopefully lag won't be as bad. Thanks Bungie!

I just realized, I HATE covies! Covies are awful, everyone vetoes them. If you are without an army of ghosts then your team gets mowed down by the other team's ghosts. If lag ISN"T fixed, then this will become the worst playlist in existance.

[Edited on 01.31.2008 3:37 PM PST]

  • 01.31.2008 3:34 PM PDT