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Subject: Halo 2 Vista Mouse Control
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

My Grandmother picked me up another copy of Halo 2, since I won't stop whining about it. If I turn off VSYNC, I get super-slow mouse sensitivity during high frame rates. If I turn VSYNC on, I get half-a-second mouse lag. I tried the mouse polling rate fix, with both 500Hz and 1000Hz, and it only made the mouse even more unresponsive. I tried 2 Logitech mice and a Creative Labs Fatal1ty gaming mouse. I alternately tried high resolution and details, then low resolution, no AA and low details. Specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo @ 3 Ghz
2 gigs 400Mhz RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Soyo LCD @ 1280x1024

[Edited on 01.31.2008 12:44 PM PST]

  • 01.31.2008 12:32 PM PDT
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What about your monitor? What kind is it and what's the maximum resolution?

  • 01.31.2008 12:34 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

It's a Soyo LCD with a native resolution of 1280x1024.

  • 01.31.2008 12:41 PM PDT

I remember there was some kind of a fix you could do in the Nvidia control panel. Try to see if you can find H2V there, and tinker with the vsync settings there. That helped me out.

  • 01.31.2008 12:48 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

That's what I've been doing. :(

  • 01.31.2008 1:04 PM PDT

Don't worry. H2V is just one of the crappiest ports of all time. It has been noted that those people that actually have a better performance card end up having mouse-lag. Damn Halo 2 port was coded by retarded monkeys.

  • 01.31.2008 1:20 PM PDT
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i have this exact same problem with a similar rig [amd X2 4400+ chip, asus am2, 2 gb ram, nvidia 8600 with 1024mb]

[Edited on 01.31.2008 1:33 PM PST]

  • 01.31.2008 1:32 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Well, that sucks. Sorry you guys are having the same problem too.

  • 01.31.2008 5:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Bapabooiee
Don't worry. H2V is just one of the crappiest ports of all time. It has been noted that those people that actually have a better performance card end up having mouse-lag. Damn Halo 2 port was coded by retarded monkeys.


Is my 8800 GTX not high end enough to be affected by mouse lag? OR are you just over generalizing?

  • 02.01.2008 12:38 AM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

It will probably lag if you force VSYNC on. That's what does it to me.

  • 02.01.2008 1:24 AM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

I found something that fixes it. Running FRAPS at 60 FPS. Guess that's fine until I run out of hard disk space.

  • 02.02.2008 6:44 AM PDT
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Posted by: n357
I found something that fixes it. Running FRAPS at 60 FPS. Guess that's fine until I run out of hard disk space.


lol

Run it at the lowest possible resolution and refresh rate and see what happens.

Also, is your monitor analogue or digital, what kind of port is it connected with (VGA, DGI etc) and how is the VSYNC buffered?

[Edited on 02.02.2008 9:50 AM PST]

  • 02.02.2008 9:40 AM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Ugh. I have no idea how VSYNC is buffered. The monitor is connected through a DVI to VGA adapter. What's VSYNC buffering, anyway, and how do I change it?

[Edited on 02.02.2008 7:12 PM PST]

  • 02.02.2008 7:12 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

So can somebody help me?

  • 02.04.2008 1:10 AM PDT
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I was talking mainly about triple buffering, if its enabled (assuming H2V supports it) each frame goes through three buffers instead of two in an attempt to prevent a drop in your framerate. If you don't have enough VRAM it will be using your normal RAM, which will slow everything down, but I don't think that would happen with 2 gigs.

Make sure you aren't running anything in the background that would use to many resources, and that you have the newest drivers for you mouse. If there is a program for the drivers try moving up the CPU priority.

  • 02.04.2008 3:44 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

I tried turning triple-buffering off, and it made no difference. I changed the priority of "Logitech *something* Main Process" to high, and that didn't work either. It's a vanilla install of Vista with nothing else running in the background. This is so frustrating.

  • 02.04.2008 5:13 PM PDT

Does it get better at the lowest resolution, or at the highest?

  • 02.05.2008 8:14 AM PDT
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Make sure you have the Game Detection thing on in Logitech, and mess around with the Logitech/OS implementation thing and the acceleration.

  • 02.05.2008 8:39 AM PDT

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Posted by: n357
I tried turning triple-buffering off, and it made no difference. I changed the priority of "Logitech *something* Main Process" to high, and that didn't work either. It's a vanilla install of Vista with nothing else running in the background. This is so frustrating.


The mouse movements were screwy for me too. I ran v-sync on actually, which I never do. It seemed to smooth out strange drops in what seemed like frames/second but was not, just crummy code. I tried all kinds of graphics settings and such, but it was not a FPS issue, which I realized when I started running FRAPS.

Seems like when you turn really quickly with the mouse, the game lags behind what you want to see on the screen. Strange. Anyway I just dealt with it and played the game. It's a bad port in a lot of ways and looks like it won't really ever improve with updates. I bet it plays a lot better with the controller and the whole auto aim feature <sigh>. Something tells me the developers used controllers just as much if not more than m+k when working on it...lol.

  • 02.05.2008 12:14 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: Frnksnbns
I bet it plays a lot better with the controller and the whole auto aim feature <sigh>. Something tells me the developers used controllers just as much if not more than m+k when working on it...lol.

Yes, it works much better with a controller. I suck using a controller. :(

  • 02.05.2008 12:20 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

Posted by: SuperSnorky
Does it get better at the lowest resolution, or at the highest?

With VSYNC disabled, mouse control improves at higher resolution and detail settings (framerate goes down). With VSYNC enabled, it gets worse at higher settings, but only by a little bit. Either way, it's still very hard to aim.

[Edited on 02.05.2008 12:26 PM PST]

  • 02.05.2008 12:21 PM PDT

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Troubleshoot ur mouse then use the configure option. I'm hoping it's not xp onoly, i've oly done that on windows xp.

  • 02.06.2008 3:29 PM PDT

H1 and Halo Custom edition name: madkiller92
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ASlo tryt to use a reagular or defualt mouse that came with pc, not a gaming one.

  • 02.06.2008 3:29 PM PDT
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Yes, I am a hypocrite, and I'm sorry. I really do mean well, but I'm not running on all cylinders.

Everytime someone buys a copy of Halo 2 Vista, a puppy dies.

I couldn't find mouse troubleshooting anywhere. I'm using a regular Logitech Click mouse. I tried a gaming mouse but it made no difference. Is there any hope here? I'm getting really frustrated.

  • 02.07.2008 2:42 AM PDT

H1 and Halo Custom edition name: madkiller92
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no hope exept getting a xbxo 360 controller. or calling 1-800-my-xbox waiting about 1 hour to ask for windows support, and have a guy find the number. that should work. if it dosen't go to ms support page, or ask for it. don't call ur pc manufacturer or u'll have to pay. for dell its $50 per phone call. u have to be very patient. also try your longitech controll icon, my joysitck had one on toolbar thing at bottom of screen.

[Edited on 02.07.2008 4:53 AM PST]

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