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Subject: Should a topic be locked after a certain amount of reports?(Changed)

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Poll: Should a topic be locked after a certain amount of reports?  [closed]
Yes:  21%
(4 Votes)
No:  68%
(13 Votes)
Possible:  5%
(1 Votes)
Impossible:  5%
(1 Votes)
Total Votes: 19

I think it should happen. Basically, there are topics that just need to die, but there arenever ninjas on sometimes to kill them in time. Should the thread be deleted if it reaches 10+/- reports?

*Change - 10 DIFFERENT PEOPLE have to post reports. This is more logical!

[Edited on 02.03.2008 7:44 PM PST]

  • 02.03.2008 7:06 PM PDT
Subject: Should a topic be locked after a certain amount of reports?

No, that would abuse the report system. =D
A mod will get to it eventually, just don't reply to it and it won't be a problem.

[Edited on 02.03.2008 7:10 PM PST]

  • 02.03.2008 7:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Yoozel
Over at HFCS we're constantly hard...

Wait...
What?

No, because then people would abuse the system knowing "Hey, if I could get myself and 9 of my buddys to report this then I can lock this thread."
Giving power like that to members would only bring more troubles.

  • 02.03.2008 7:10 PM PDT

While this could help with a lot of spam, people could still be asshats and report a legitimate topic purely because they don't like the subject/member/etc.

It could be abused, which is why it should stay the ninjas' discretion.

  • 02.03.2008 7:11 PM PDT

I spend too much time here.. too much time indeed.

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Aww, I was totally about to bring up that point in another tab when I refreshed the topic. Beat to the punch again. But he's right. It would give spammers and trolls quite a bit of power.


Posted by: Recon Number 54
And if a spammer with 10 alts and some time on his hands wants to kill a valid topic?

  • 02.03.2008 7:11 PM PDT

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Sry, i forgot one HUGE detail. My bad. 10 DIFFERENT people post reports. There, now it's more logical.

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Illogical 1000%

  • 02.03.2008 7:44 PM PDT

I spend too much time here.. too much time indeed.

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Again, Recon's post comes into effect. 10 alts would equal 10 different people. However if it was judged by IP than I could see that happening, maybe, but it would be a tough call. But then it comes to what happens if someone abuses the system from a certain IP, do you ban that IP? I personally don't believe an IP should truely ever be (permanently) banned since often enough IP addresses tend to get recycled by their provider especially those cheap folks known as AOL.

Any case that's a whole lot of babble so I'm going to go, carry on.

Posted by: DarkHalo003
Sry, i forgot one HUGE detail. My bad. 10 DIFFERENT people post reports. There, now it's more logical.


[Edited on 02.03.2008 7:50 PM PST]

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The community can effectively "lock" a topic by simply not replying to it. It floats away like it was never even there.

Topics do get locked after ten reports. We just have to be on to lock them. And that's how it's going to stay (I hope).

-TGP-

  • 02.03.2008 8:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: Great_Pretender
The community can effectively "lock" a topic by simply not replying to it. It floats away like it was never even there.

Topics do get locked after ten reports. We just have to be on to lock them. And that's how it's going to stay (I hope).

-TGP-

  • 02.03.2008 8:06 PM PDT
Subject: Should a topic be locked after a certain amount of reports?(Changed)

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Posted by: Cr4ne Style
Taxes do nothing to affect the share of wealth, since taxes are only applied to income.

So that's not even a part of the conversation at all, so it's pointless talking about it....

"for a "best" moral to exist, there must exist the "best" moral base. If the base of morality varies from location to location, culture to culture...then there can't be an absolute moral..

no, whether a topic should be locked should be left to the discretion of the mods. bnet users cannot make such decisions. each and every one of us can report posts, and it is clearly not the case that we can be trusted to make such decisions.

heck, in the optimatch alone there is a group of 10 guys who post in the same threads sharing the same opinions about nearly every topic. if your idea were in place, instead of just reading their vacuous posts in many threads, they could shut threads down.

honestly, would you want a thread to be shut down merely because 10 knuckleheads used the report feature?

  • 02.03.2008 8:08 PM PDT
Subject: Should a topic be locked after a certain amount of reports?

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Well, it is mainly because i haven't seen mods cleaning the forums of spam, so this is why it comes to my attention. Maybe not ten, but possibly some sort of thing to where the topic would be deleted if people complained about it too much.

  • 02.03.2008 8:09 PM PDT

No matter what you set the limit at, there's always a potential for abuse.

Just stick to the report button.

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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

I disagree with this idea. Oftentimes, the report button is not pressed for a topic itself, but rather for an individual post. For example, if a replier spams a valid thread with ads for his screenshot, or if an original poster begins a valid discussion and then proceeds to make bad posts within the same thread.

These are the kinds of situations that require the trained eyes of a trusted BNet moderator -- the thread might not necessarily need to be locked, even if the report button is pressed for posts within the thread.

It is a good thought, and a well-intentioned idea, but for the foregoing reasons, I respectfully disagree.

  • 02.03.2008 8:10 PM PDT

*Sgt

Just don't reply to it. That is the most effective method, but unfortunately, somebody ALWAYS has to get a word in.

[Edited on 02.03.2008 8:16 PM PST]

  • 02.03.2008 8:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Great_Pretender
The community can effectively "lock" a topic by simply not replying to it. It floats away like it was never even there.

Topics do get locked after ten reports. We just have to be on to lock them. And that's how it's going to stay (I hope).

-TGP-

Meh, true, i suppose it makes sense, it's just that you mods haven't been on for a while, or isit just me?

  • 02.03.2008 8:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: SgtSTFU
Just don't reply to it. That is the most effective method, but unforrunately, somebody ALWAYS has to get a word in.

Yeah, that usually beats it. But you'd think i would have learned the first time about replying to spam though......(extremely tempting to do).

  • 02.03.2008 8:12 PM PDT

I spend too much time here.. too much time indeed.

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Not all mods are so vocal here on the forums as it has been stated, some choose to work quietly behind the scenes.

Posted by: DarkHalo003
Posted by: Great_Pretender
The community can effectively "lock" a topic by simply not replying to it. It floats away like it was never even there.

Topics do get locked after ten reports. We just have to be on to lock them. And that's how it's going to stay (I hope).

-TGP-

Meh, true, i suppose it makes sense, it's just that you mods haven't been on for a while, or isit just me?



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The only reason most mods do work behind the scenes is because people give mods so much crap just for locking a forum. JUST DEAL WITH IT !

  • 02.03.2008 8:19 PM PDT
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So now I'm a beta tester. Let's see where this goes.

Before the spam button I use to try and help people and post to tell them have their post was jacked-up. Now I just don't care. I hit the report button and enjoy the inevitable red text that comes.

  • 02.03.2008 8:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
I disagree with this idea. Oftentimes, the report button is not pressed for a topic itself, but rather for an individual post. For example, if a replier spams a valid thread with ads for his screenshot, or if an original poster begins a valid discussion and then proceeds to make bad posts within the same thread.

These are the kinds of situations that require the trained eyes of a trusted BNet moderator -- the thread might not necessarily need to be locked, even if the report button is pressed for posts within the thread.

It is a good thought, and a well-intentioned idea, but for the foregoing reasons, I respectfully disagree.

Very true, i suppose i didn't think about that either, i've been away for a while, so i'm still trying to remember the snuff ofthe forum. BTW, sry for so many posts, it is just i'm trying to answer to so many points.

  • 02.03.2008 8:21 PM PDT

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All very valid points. Thank you for reminding me of this stuff,since my absence.

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Posted by: DEATHPIMP72
Anyone but Foman. He smells like cheese.

Posted by: Great_Pretender
The community can effectively "lock" a topic by simply not replying to it. It floats away like it was never even there.
That's great advice, but has never been heeded by the general populous. Ever. No matter how many times we say it, we are still shouting into the wind. It is long past time to either begin enforcing this notion or to drop it and stop saying it.

I think that this method of bad thread control could indeed become a formidable one, but it would require diligence from the mods in banning people who reply to spam -- even with supposedly "helpful" replies like "please do not respond to this thread and it will eventually go away" or "please refrain from posting spam." If there is no punishment, then the incentive to respond to bad threads -- ESPECIALLY troll threads but spam threads as well -- will, for a large portion of the BNet population, overcome any desire to see the thread pushed off the front page.

Without enforcement, trolls and spammers will continue to revel in the outraged and annoyed replies that they receive when posting bad threads. Until there is enforcement for this notion, then alternative methods of bad thread control need to continue to be evaluated. And, with all due respect TGP, until then, just saying "don't respond and it will go away" is not a valid response to complaints about bad threads.

[Edited on 02.03.2008 8:25 PM PST]

  • 02.03.2008 8:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Posted by: Great_Pretender
The community can effectively "lock" a topic by simply not replying to it. It floats away like it was never even there.
That's great advice, but has never been heeded by the general populous. Ever. No matter how many times we say it, we are still shouting into the wind. It is long past time to either begin enforcing this notion or to drop it and stop saying it.

I think that this method of bad thread control could indeed become a formidable one, but it would require diligence from the mods in banning people who reply to spam -- even with supposedly "helpful" replies like "please do not respond to this thread and it will eventually go away" or "please refrain from posting spam." If there is no punishment, then the incentive to respond to bad threads -- ESPECIALLY troll threads but spam threads as well -- will, for a large portion of the BNet population, overcome any desire to see the thread pushed off the front page.

Without enforcement, trolls and spammers will continue to revel in the outraged and annoyed replies that they receive when posting bad threads. Until there is enforcement for this notion, then alternative methods of bad thread control need to continue to be evaluated. And, with all due respect TGP, until then, just saying "don't respond and it will go away" is not a valid response to complaints about bad threads.

Yes, that is sort of the reason why i brought this up, but note ntirely. I get so annoyed when i see people replying to trolls and spam. People never listen to what you have to say about not replying and it is extremely annoying when the thread goes to its 164th reply.

  • 02.03.2008 8:27 PM PDT

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