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Posted by: MCs Brother
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I don't know much about the borg. Actually I don't know anything about them. What are they?


you just three responses on the subject, now all you is some pointed ears and your a trekkie.


resistance is futile you well be assimlated


Ha. He can be a Red-shirt. <all trekkies laugh at inside joke>


Hell, I laughed and I don't even consider myself a trekkie. :P

I think I don't because I sometimes feel let down by the show. Though the plots of a lot of individual episodes are good, it seems as though the "Star Trek" setting is merely a superfluous context. The stories are good because they're good stories, not because it's Star Trek. There are two things that come to mind from thinking of the Borg:

1) Why didn't StarFleet begin issuing missile-based weapons like guns instead of phasers? The borg aren't immune to bullets. Hell, they aren't immune to atomic weaponry either. Why couldn't have StarFleet just equit their ships with these things? (I know why they decided not to do it from a producer perspective, but in the show context they should have)

2) I didn't get enough political... troubles. StarFleet always seems to sit behind whatever's going on as a basic set of humanistic principles, yet you never actually see direct political interaction with StarFleet - there could have been problems with it (such as a very slow process for updating new weaponry to combat things such as the Borg). Like I said, Star Fleet represents humanism (I think Gene even said it did), so it never really was placed with a bad name - but I would have liked it to be. There were always troubles with the captains disobeying orders, but that never really seems like a problem with Star Fleet - and if it did, they never went into depth as to why the problem took place.

Also, each episode was a whole new story. Rarely did I feel any continuing story over the course of the show (except Voyager). I would have liked to see new seasons tell one long, highly detailed story. Again, this deals with the problem of the Star Trek universe being a superfluous context for the plot of an individual episode.

  • 01.12.2005 9:17 PM PDT
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Note: I know I'm having a lot of spelling errors and I'm too lazy to go back and correct them.

  • 01.12.2005 9:18 PM PDT

Devil is Double is Deuce and Joker always trumps Deuce.

Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Posted by: MCs Brother
Posted by: amazedsatsuma
Posted by: gamertag xeros5
I don't know much about the borg. Actually I don't know anything about them. What are they?


you just three responses on the subject, now all you is some pointed ears and your a trekkie.


resistance is futile you well be assimlated


Ha. He can be a Red-shirt. <all trekkies laugh at inside joke>


Hell, I laughed and I don't even consider myself a trekkie. :P

I think I don't because I sometimes feel let down by the show. Though the plots of a lot of individual episodes are good, it seems as though the "Star Trek" setting is merely a superfluous context. The stories are good because they're good stories, not because it's Star Trek. There are two things that come to mind from thinking of the Borg:

1) Why didn't StarFleet begin issuing missile-based weapons like guns instead of phasers? The borg aren't immune to bullets. Hell, they aren't immune to atomic weaponry either. Why couldn't have StarFleet just equit their ships with these things? (I know why they decided not to do it from a producer perspective, but in the show context they should have)

2) I didn't get enough political... troubles. StarFleet always seems to sit behind whatever's going on as a basic set of humanistic principles, yet you never actually see direct political interaction with StarFleet - there could have been problems with it (such as a very slow process for updating new weaponry to combat things such as the Borg). Like I said, Star Fleet represents humanism (I think Gene even said it did), so it never really was placed with a bad name - but I would have liked it to be. There were always troubles with the captains disobeying orders, but that never really seems like a problem with Star Fleet - and if it did, they never went into depth as to why the problem took place.

Also, each episode was a whole new story. Rarely did I feel any continuing story over the course of the show (except Voyager). I would have liked to see new seasons tell one long, highly detailed story. Again, this deals with the problem of the Star Trek universe being a superfluous context for the plot of an individual episode.


1.) I really don't know. That would make sense, now that I think of it.

2.) Something like that would make for an interesting twist. I'm tired of the "perfect" Federation shows.

And on the stories: I think Enterprise's season long arc with the Xindi is the first step towards something like what you're thinking.

  • 01.12.2005 9:24 PM PDT
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Are you talking about the newest Star Trek? I never watched it.

  • 01.12.2005 9:26 PM PDT

Devil is Double is Deuce and Joker always trumps Deuce.

Posted by: Griffin Spades
Careful there your turnin MC on he might ask you to marry him if you keep talking trekkie.


................No. I'll leave that to all the new members.

  • 01.12.2005 9:27 PM PDT

Devil is Double is Deuce and Joker always trumps Deuce.

Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Are you talking about the newest Star Trek? I never watched it.


Yeah, Enterprise. They did a season long arc last season. Basically, an alien race attacked Earth because they learned from a source from the future that their race would be destroyed by Earth in the future. The initial attack was only a small version. The larger version was powerful enough to destroy Earth. The aliens were building it in a region of space fraught with anomalies of all kinds. Enterprise (NX-01) was sent to find the super-weapon and destroy it. The whole season was like that. It was pretty cool too. (Keep in mind that the newest series is set in the 2150's, before Kirk's time. The main ship is the Earth's first Warp-5 ship, hence the NX designation for prototype. This series is also pre-federation. Earth is still having it's hand held by the Vulcans. The only earth space force set up is StarFleet.)

  • 01.12.2005 9:32 PM PDT
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Is there some sort of giant Trek time-line so that I can at least find out what the hell is going on????

What is this "Nemesis" and "Generation" and "Federation".

I'm sooo confused!

  • 01.13.2005 1:44 AM PDT

._____Metal
/..}-/-{..\
I.X....X.I..... Jets: Check
.T_V_T......Chargers: Check
...****........Colts: -blam!- them....

I don't really know what's going on here, but to answer the question I'm gunna say the Borg. I saw that movie a long time ago so all I really remember is they had metal implants and stuff (I think the evil badguy's second was a chick and he was another version of Picard).

  • 01.13.2005 3:56 AM PDT
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The borg would even own the MC, and I dont know if the flood could infect a cyborg

  • 01.13.2005 7:46 AM PDT
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Piffle.

Data beats up Borg with wanton abandon, and so would the Chief. Hell, with his armour on he weighs half a ton! And let's not forget flipping Scorpions.

  • 01.13.2005 8:05 AM PDT
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They'd assimilate each other, becoming super borg/flood...

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I say flood because they maybe not smart but they are killing machines like lekgolo but not as strong. The flood are everywhere!!! you look around one corner there's one there next corner same thing here is just tomany of the flood they spread like ants. yet they are as strong a bloody machine( they are the ones who will kill all if all is defensless and the borg are -blam!-y)sorry for misuse of language.

  • 01.13.2005 11:02 PM PDT
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Borg. The Borg don't ever leave their wounded or dead behind, which would give the flood nothing to improve their numbers. In Halo ce and Halo2 the flood uses the same tactics and fighting style, which the Borg would adapt to and counter effectively in about 10 minutes. Just like I did........

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Posted by: Blackmarch
They'd assimilate each other, becoming super borg/flood...


i was going to put that as an answer, but i didn't know how to put it

[Edited on 1/14/2005 11:56:44 AM]

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