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I wanna learn networking, network defense, and hacking.

Computer Forensics has to get me somewhere.

  • 02.06.2008 12:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Mr SnuggIy
So I think Jun's a master chef, because he takes off his helmet and your like whoa, I think he's a chef.

So to shorten this up, Jun is master chef.

Posted by: just another fan
Boo! I thought this thread was about stalking.

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Posted by: Achronos
And to answer the OP's question - I went to high school at TJHSST in Alexandria VA, then went to Virginia Tech for 3.5 years and got myself a BS In CompSci. Been working at Bungie ever since (since 2001).


Psh.. Hokies...

;)

Is there a moderator party today or something?

I wanna come!

  • 02.06.2008 1:07 PM PDT

Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

Bah, Java is lame. C# is much, much more interesting and useful.

Posted by: AJAQ
Personally, little details in C irritate me, but because of the memory necessity, I guess I can see why it gets used.

Me, I still prefer Java.

  • 02.06.2008 1:44 PM PDT

Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

No, I just went to a very good high school that ended up allowing my to bypass some early college stuff. Look up "Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology" if you're really that curious.

That, and I was doing heavy course loads (18 credit hours) for the first few years until I realized I had to slow down because otherwise I'd run out of stuff to do and at that point, I had no desire to leave college early. This was early 2000, remember, and internet bubble was popping - I was planning to hide in graduate school when I got called by Bungie out of the blue. I don't even really remember sending them my resume.

Posted by: wHo iZ XtrEmE
3.5 years? Was he on the speed track?

  • 02.06.2008 1:50 PM PDT
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Location: Outlaws' Summit.

Posted by: Achronos
And to answer the OP's question - I went to high school at TJHSST in Alexandria VA, then went to Virginia Tech for 3.5 years and got myself a BS In CompSci. Been working at Bungie ever since (since 2001). But I also had a portfolio of a few hobby projects to show that included a perl-based content system integrated with forums and account management that I wrote in my spare time. As you might imagine, that helped me stand out for the job from other people.


Wow you went to TJ? Great school. I took the test to get in there but I couldn't :-(

But yeah, it's like in the top 3 High Schools in the nation. Really good program.

Still got into Tech though :-)

Working on a degree in BIT, but I'm not going to finish in less than 4 years, that's for sure.

  • 02.06.2008 1:52 PM PDT
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Cool and thanks for the response.

I take 17 - 19 credit hours each semester and I don't plan on slowing down ever.

Computer Forensics 1 day.

My high school didn't do jack for me in college. John Glenn High School = horrible

Well you'll (or someone at Bungie) will be seeing my app 1 day, but I'm also in no hurry to submit it yet.

  • 02.06.2008 1:54 PM PDT

鬼

Achronos, can you suggest anything for a CPA in the making?

  • 02.06.2008 1:54 PM PDT

Thats Right I Was Banned For Watching The Webcams Too Much!Combat Arms - X647"He who'd walk a mile just to hold an empty hand, knows what it means to be a wealthy man."
Skin This Place Alive...

I have a degree in cobol, what kind of job will this get me at bungie? (i expect design lead)



























rofl

  • 02.06.2008 1:56 PM PDT
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I hate C, its too messy, but that's just a personal preference. Of course, Bungie.net used to be written in Perl of all things - so I probably shouldn't talk about code being messy.
Yet Bungie.net is now written in ASP... only joking.

I just prefer PHP over ASP, but then again I haven't really used ASP; just read about it.

I should probably start learning it though as the more languages I have under my belt, the better.

  • 02.06.2008 1:57 PM PDT
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Only Banks really use cobol nowadays. (mostly - not all)

I took a cobol course and it was horrible.



Also wow Achrono's High school is ranked way up there.

the 9th grade work looked harder then my senior year at my high school.

Definetely can't be a moron or an idiot to go there. Especially when you half to take a test just to ge tin.

[Edited on 02.06.2008 2:01 PM PST]

  • 02.06.2008 1:57 PM PDT

Thats Right I Was Banned For Watching The Webcams Too Much!Combat Arms - X647"He who'd walk a mile just to hold an empty hand, knows what it means to be a wealthy man."
Skin This Place Alive...

But seriously..so far I have taught myself:
AutoCAD
Photoshop (basic - intermediate)
RED Editor (old level designer)
Sketchup

School: (long time ago)
Visual Basic 6
Advanced HTML

Learning:
Maya
Photoshop (Advanced)
VB.net
AutoCAD (Architecture/planning/engineering @ work)


does any of that help? what more should I do?
Edit: What more can I tech myself...(im all about the free stuff :P )


[Edited on 02.06.2008 2:31 PM PST]

  • 02.06.2008 2:29 PM PDT

Tom Achronos
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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

No, bungie.net is written using C#, using the ASP.NET 2.0 features among other things.

I said I dislike C, not C#. I like C#. And ASP.NET is not really comparable to ASP. And as someone who wrote bungie.net originally in straight Perl, PHP isn't that impressive to me.

Posted by: TxV Aureole
Yet Bungie.net is now written in ASP... only joking.

I just prefer PHP over ASP, but then again I haven't really used ASP; just read about it.

I should probably start learning it though as the more languages I have under my belt, the better.

  • 02.06.2008 2:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
You should learn both, as well as plain old C.

Tools and web related stuff is in C#, but games are still written in C. Some effort by Microsoft is being made to get people to write games in managed code (C#), but everyone always comes back to using C.

I hate C, its too messy, but that's just a personal preference. Of course, Bungie.net used to be written in Perl of all things - so I probably shouldn't talk about code being messy. But C# is my tool of choice now. Languages are just tools - if you're a programmer of the caliber we want, you know the fundamentals and can apply them to whatever programming language is in use. As long as you're not using VB, anyway.

The most important thing to remember is to show, not tell. A resume can be faked, but if you have a portfolio of your work (be it art, levels, games, etc.), you'll find you'll stand out from the crowd.

And to answer the OP's question - I went to high school at TJHSST in Alexandria VA, then went to Virginia Tech for 3.5 years and got myself a BS In CompSci. Been working at Bungie ever since (since 2001). But I also had a portfolio of a few hobby projects to show that included a perl-based content system integrated with forums and account management that I wrote in my spare time. As you might imagine, that helped me stand out for the job from other people.
I hear about you guys in the way you hire some People. From rumors. I hear you guys find people from the most unexpected places. Like a guy that made something amazing that you guys were impressed from. say a flash animation or program or mod (non cheating) that really caught your attention.

I was always wondering though. Since you guys are located Kirkland near The VALVe software building. Have you ever met or hanged out with the VALVe guys? I have a strong feeling that some of the bungie employees actually hang out with them. Just a thought though

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  • 02.06.2008 2:52 PM PDT
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Finished the fight on September 26,2007, 10:49pm EST
Remembered Reach on September 15th, 2010 9:30pm EST

I am a freshman in college right now. I was aiming for Biomedical Engineering, but had to to some computer classes. I saw one that involved some Computer Science, CPS 120, so i am taking that now. I really like it. In fact, I am thinking of going to pursue a computer engineering sort of job now...Since I don't know THAT much about it, what kind of job would that land me at Bungie? Just for example....


PS: Why is "Bungie" always under spellcheck -_-

  • 02.06.2008 2:59 PM PDT

Thats Right I Was Banned For Watching The Webcams Too Much!Combat Arms - X647"He who'd walk a mile just to hold an empty hand, knows what it means to be a wealthy man."
Skin This Place Alive...

Just add it to your dictionary..its not a REAL word :P

  • 02.06.2008 3:09 PM PDT
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Remembered Reach on September 15th, 2010 9:30pm EST

Oh yeah. didn't even think of that. lol. -_-
I bet you're all like "and he wants to be a computer engineer! HA!" lol.

  • 02.06.2008 3:13 PM PDT

Writing ftw. =D

  • 02.06.2008 3:17 PM PDT

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[*Please note that anything in my posts is likely to be filled with sarcasm, and should be taken with a pinch of salt. I tend to help people, usually*]

Well, there's a University in my city deemed to be the best place to get the best qualification for the games industry. "Abertay" in Dundee, Scotland. Their Computer Arts and similar courses are exactly what I'm going for. I hope to join Bungie one day :)

I'd imagine that'd be one of the best qualifications to have.

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  • 02.06.2008 3:52 PM PDT

Forum Rules for those who care to know what they are.

"Bs: Blame stosh for all of your BS!"

My dream is to possibly go to MIT, like Isla, and try to apply for Bungie as a Map Designer or Bungie.net person. This community is awesome, so i'd like to see more of the inside of how it works. Mostly, though, i'd like to be a Map Designer or Campaign Director. :)

So far i am trying to learn how to use:
-G Max(properly)
-Sapien(Computer Problems)
-Tool(WTF?)
-C++(Need Time to situate myself for a while. Dev-C++)
-AI Programming

So far i've learned how to use:
-Paint to a high extent (My Marathon Theme)
-Guerilla(I figured it out within a day or two)
-Extracting Zip Files
-Using Forge as a Map Design View thing(Remaking Marathon Maps; Map Design)
-Thinking Outside the Box(I think hard about fixing maps, map design, and other good junk)
-Anonymous Leadership Abilities.lol.jk.

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  • 02.06.2008 3:52 PM PDT

Hi I'm RT and I like to argue!

Since everyone is asking...

When is Bungie going to need a new accountant?

Hire me, or I'll figure out who your auditors are, get a job with them, and then you'll really be sorry...



Just kidding, of course.

  • 02.06.2008 4:00 PM PDT

Formerly known as BASs13 and One Point Three

Posted by: DarkHalo003
-C++(Need Time to situate myself for a while. Dev-C++)

I like Dev- C++ personally. I have only used it very limited, so I don't know how it is when there is a large amount of source code.

-Extracting Zip Files
Lol. You would be in trouble if you couldn't do that.

  • 02.06.2008 5:03 PM PDT
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im really intrested in computer stuff but i know nill every thing in this has gone over my head, only thing i understood was something about 3.5 years at the BEST college. i wish in knew more!

  • 02.06.2008 7:49 PM PDT
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really like making maps, # 1 thing iu wanted 4 halo 3 was some sorta mapmaker, kinda like farcry but bettr( i made a remake of vallhalla on farcry) so i would love to make maps for bungie but seeing as how i dont know much that deosnt look like its going to happen, saddly enough :(.

  • 02.06.2008 7:52 PM PDT
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Programatically invading forums.

Here's how I got into the industry:

Finish School
Go to college
Build a fat portfolio of things you've worked on
Send it in along with a resume

Then again, it's easier to get into other places than it is Bungie, considering how huge it is.

  • 02.06.2008 8:11 PM PDT

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