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Subject: Why is the Halo CE pistol unbalanced?
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Posted by: Rhudebaker
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Posted by: Rhudebaker
Coming out saying it's unbalanced is passive feelings of being a victim. Saying it's twice as strong as it's supposed to be is not. Saying it's flawed can be either one, depending on the intent of saying which it is. The intent is what I will judge you and your judgements on, not only the words you use.

Er, no. I'm quite potent with the pistol, so this isn't me speaking from a position of a victim (I'd have to die via pistol far more often than I actually kill with it). Can't wrap your head around me actually doing well with the thing I say is unbalanced?

Posted by: Rhudebaker
The intent is what I will judge you and your judgements on, not only the words you use.

What, do you have a mind-reading ability I don't know about? You only have words to go on, dude, and trying to, in effect, psychoanalyze my mindset is not getting you anywhere near the truth ;)


I haven't bothered reading your posts much. Your posts are directed to somebody else, and it's more of a debate. I don't need to get caught up in that.

I'm not accusing YOU of crying victim here, moreso the OP and those who are on that side of it mate. Getting owned by the pistol.. big deal.

There's a counter-strategy to everything material. Time to learn it. Like I said, the time you spend complaining about it is the time I spend training myself against it.

Ah, k, thought you were talking to me :p

  • 03.06.2008 3:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: DB5414
lol except that a pistol is not a rifle...if a pistol is as powerful as a rifle, thats unbalanced
Yeah, but the pistol takes the role of a main assault weapon while the assault rifle takes a back seat to the pistol's fire power and accuracy.

  • 03.08.2008 11:39 AM PDT
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The assault rifle offers spray and pray. The pistol packs an accurate powerful punch. They serve their two purposes.

  • 03.08.2008 9:54 PM PDT

its a strong weapon in some cases, not so strong in others. it may seem unbalanced to some people, others not. i like the halo 1 pistol, but it wont help me much on legendary.
whats the point of making a thread were some people think a weapon is unbalanced, when all weapons are balanced, just better used 4 different situations.

  • 03.10.2008 2:27 PM PDT

Posted by: DB5414
lol except that a pistol is not a rifle...if a pistol is as powerful as a rifle, thats unbalanced

Balance has nothing to do with it. It's a design direction. Realism also is irrelevant.

  • 03.11.2008 7:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: DB5414
lol except that a pistol is not a rifle...if a pistol is as powerful as a rifle, thats unbalanced

The M6D fires 12.7mmx40mm SAP-HE (Semi Armor Piercing- High Explosive) rounds.
The fact that the M6D fires rounds that are as big as light machine gun and sniper rounds, as long as assault rifle rounds, and contain a high explosive, I think the gun's performance in the game is far from unrealistic.

Posted by: Rhudebaker
The assault rifle offers spray and pray. The pistol packs an accurate powerful punch. They serve their two purposes.

Exactly. You can't spray 60 bullets in a matter of seconds with the M6D. And, not to mention, if fired in controlled bursts, the MA5B has actually quite decent range. If shot in bursts, an AR at medium range can take down an unshielded opponent much quicker than most people would expect.

  • 03.11.2008 1:38 PM PDT

let me get this straight:
u guys r letting a pistol ruin a game?
solution:
if u like it u can use it.
if u dont like it u dont have 2 use it. the game doesn't force u 2 use it.

  • 03.13.2008 11:48 AM PDT
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You guys have to understand that there is a large segment of Halo players who absolutely loved the Pistol. The Pistol made Halo CE, it didn't ruin it. In fact, it might not have done so well without it. Most of those people became fed up with Bungie and no longer come here, so they can't respond to all this disrespect for one of the best weapons in any video game ever. For this group, "Slayer Pro" was the default setting, not Slayer. That was the misconception that Bungie made when they made Halo 2. They looked at the Pistol with regret, and they even implied in a recent podcast that if they could have patched Halo 1, they would have toned down the pistol's strength (since they didn't mean for it to be so strong). This is downright offensive to players like me.

As a "pistol", the M6D was over-powered, but many consider it to the best starting weapon of all time. It allowed a spawning player to defend oneself against an enemy as nearly any range. And although it was a fantastic weapon, players still needed to control various power weapons in order to win. So the Pistol was powerful, but not overly dominant. For many Halo 1 vets, the BR was a barely passable substitute, and now in Halo 3, they've made that substitute even less effective.

The ONLY thing that was wrong with the Pistol is that it can kill a Hunter with one shot. But that's really a problem with the Hunter, not the gun.

  • 03.13.2008 2:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Elevated Earth
You guys have to understand that there is a large segment of Halo players who absolutely loved the Pistol. The Pistol made Halo CE, it didn't ruin it. In fact, it might not have done so well without it. Most of those people became fed up with Bungie and no longer come here, so they can't respond to all this disrespect for one of the best weapons in any video game ever. For this group, "Slayer Pro" was the default setting, not Slayer. That was the misconception that Bungie made when they made Halo 2. They looked at the Pistol with regret, and they even implied in a recent podcast that if they could have patched Halo 1, they would have toned down the pistol's strength (since they didn't mean for it to be so strong). This is downright offensive to players like me.

As a "pistol", the M6D was over-powered, but many consider it to the best starting weapon of all time. It allowed a spawning player to defend oneself against an enemy as nearly any range. And although it was a fantastic weapon, players still needed to control various power weapons in order to win. So the Pistol was powerful, but not overly dominant. For many Halo 1 vets, the BR was a barely passable substitute, and now in Halo 3, they've made that substitute even less effective.

The ONLY thing that was wrong with the Pistol is that it can kill a Hunter with one shot. But that's really a problem with the Hunter, not the gun.

So...do you wanna go out sometime?

  • 03.13.2008 5:22 PM PDT
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i just have halo pc but i don't care that it's unbalanced, it may be the best weapon in the game, the assault rifle is always encompassed by a better option, hell, i prefer the plasma pistol than the assault rifle. you can kick some serious ass with it.

all the same, the pistol is unbalanced because bungie didn't want people to start every weapon with a assault weapon an a scoped weapon thats piss weak. they made it kickass. then they changed it to weakk-blam!-

  • 03.13.2008 5:38 PM PDT
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Well, the pistol was, actually, pretty useful in the campaign, although it turned to be the weapon of choice for those lekgolo (hunters).

In multiplayer, as we all know, it is very powerful from afar, but maybe not in close quarters.

  • 03.13.2008 10:21 PM PDT
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actually, its still pretty powerful at close quarters, so long as you're alright at aiming.

  • 03.14.2008 3:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: Elevated Earth
This is downright offensive to players like me.
Oops, it's a damn shame people like to have their own opinions. :)

I liked the pistol, but it was far from perfect.

  • 03.15.2008 5:08 AM PDT