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Subject: Some More "bot" poof.
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[color=yellow]LOOK AT THE VERY BOTTOM![/color]


I was looking thru the H2 screens today when i noticed an interesting object...

This shows the unedited image from this site
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo2/screenshots/H2_chief andodsts.jpg

Now, as you can all see, on the chiefs shoulder their is what APPEARS to be the symbol of the 7th column.
In other single player screenshots, this is not visible.

This leads me to believe it may be a multiplayer screenshot, as the 'logos' are present in every MP screenshot. Now, in one of the bungie updates, and many discussions, bots are said that they will make an appearance in multiplayer.

It would be quite interesting if these bots we're ODST's, and maybe lower class Elites (or Brutes) or something, instead of Spartans?

Maybe you can have a Bot Difficulty setting in Multiplayer that affects what bots show up in MP?

Easy = Jackals/Marines
Medium = Brutes/ODSTs
Hard = Elites/Spartans

I rigged up an advanced image, that shows ...

1) the screenshot
2) a closeup of the symbol
3) the symbol on red armour (taken from the 3d screenshot)
4) the comparison

Go to this address to view the enhanced image (cant figure out the proper forum code here ... grrr)
http://talk.xboxsolution.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2608 &stc=1

I am now 100% sure that is the 7th column symbol on the shoulder of the Spartan. That would be pretty awesome to have ranging bot opponents in MP. REMEMBER who said it first! :D


Cheers,
~Kain
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Thanks Kain,thanks alot!!

But lets get to more stuff....
...look at the first pic that Kain found,look in the background and your see a small rock to the left hand side of the pic,then next to the small rock is a biger rock. And in front of both those rocks are two cross plam trees. Ok,now go to this link here: http://www.opa-ages.com/e3/Halo2_E3videos/

Ok,now go to the video: [End round]. now stop the video at [2-3] seconds,and you've see
the small rock,the big rock,and the trees. And there set up the same way.
So this tells you that that it is MP zan map,and that there are bots,or other playable people.

Me so happy!! Again thanks Kain! "Cheers"
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Oh,and about the the hand shield in MP,heres a link that i told/ask someone who played Halo 2 at E3 about the shield in the video(pointblank video). Just tought you might wanted to see it/keep a eye on it.

The link: http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/showthread.php?p=739736#po st739736post739736

  • 06.13.2004 10:21 PM PDT
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OMGWTFBBQGRASS!!!!

  • 06.13.2004 10:24 PM PDT
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Ya, the level they are on kinda looks like Zanzibar. But maybe you information could be false somehow... maybe there is a SP level similar to zanzibar.

  • 06.13.2004 10:26 PM PDT
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i don't see the symbol but i do see a white box that looks like someone edited the pic in ur first link...

  • 06.13.2004 10:34 PM PDT
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no, it is definitly zanzibar, if you compare it to the screen shot titled eliteoverlook, there are the same 3 trees and rocks that the chief and ODST's are standing infront of. great find DRWIIL.

  • 06.13.2004 10:45 PM PDT
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it's a Bungie website, Kenshin.. i doubt anyone edited it, from Bungie, just to see if it could trick us. :D

but, anyway.. yeah, that's actually a very strong point you made, about the symbol. the only doubtful area would be if that's really a symbol, or just a texture..

  • 06.13.2004 10:52 PM PDT
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yeah...it's Zanzibar..but they aren't bots. if they were, Bungie would have released the screenshot saying "multiplayer bots in Zanzibar" or something. Plus, bots don't stand right next to you. Maybe Zanzibar is also making an appearance in SP? Whhhhooooo kknnnooowwwwsssss??!?

also- the symbol doesn't have to be only a multiplayer-specific customization. you will MORE than likely be customizing the mjolnir just like how you choose your color in Halo1, only more -blam!-in.

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  • 06.13.2004 10:53 PM PDT
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they might have wanted to keep Bots a secret..

  • 06.13.2004 11:09 PM PDT
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Yeah, the screenshot has palm trees, a beach, and a rock, so it's OBVIOUSLY got to to be Zanzibar. Oh wait, nobody has seen basically any of the single-player stuff, so don't you think it's a LITTLE bit more likely that Halo 2 features a campaign level which is, at least in part, set on a beach? I don't really have any opinion on the shoulder emblem or its significance, but I think assuming that the picture is taken from Zanzibar with bots is stretching things a bit much. I also have yet to read any Bungie statement concerning whether or not bots are definitely included, so I think the whole proposed premise of this picture is largely unfounded and definitely biased towards wanting to bots in Halo 2.

  • 06.13.2004 11:25 PM PDT
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Yeah, all Bungie said was that they were looking into ways for people with only two controllers to still have fun in MP. That doens't equal bots, necessarily. I think there may be bots, but I think you're jumping to conclusions. Though it would be cool to have the different levels of bots be represented by what character they are.

  • 06.13.2004 11:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: ZAO
no, it is definitly zanzibar, if you compare it to the screen shot titled eliteoverlook, there are the same 3 trees and rocks that the chief and ODST's are standing infront of. great find DRWIIL.


Yeah, I agree... With a little comparison of the trees/ rocks, ect... it's definitely Zanzibar. As for bots, who really knows?? We can all hope, though.

  • 06.14.2004 6:38 AM PDT
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i dont think bungie said that you can ONLY be elites and spartans
they might not be bots you might be able to play as grunts, ODSTs and who knows

as with the discussion on whether it is sp or mp remember how they used sc to make death island for halo pc this could be the same case

  • 06.14.2004 6:47 AM PDT
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I hope it's bots, i really do; but what if you might just be able to wear your emblems in single-player? It is quite obviously an emblem on his shoulder, so i'm going to stick my neck out and say i think it's bots.

  • 06.14.2004 7:36 AM PDT
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You do realize that the "screenshots" aren't taken from a live game right? They spend time putting in the models that they want, put them in the position they want and then move the camera about for the perfect angle.

It wouldn't be a stretch for them to simple reskin some spartans with ODST's in the multiplayer map just to accomplish a cool screenshot.

A further example of this is in the very next screenshot with the camera looking up from under the ghost up at the yellow elite perched on the Ghost's hood. There's no way to get a camera at that angle in game and that yellow elite was boarding. That pose only lasts the most minute fraction of a second. Good Luck getting a screen capture. No, these things are made with their animation tools and thus could have anything they want.

Not proof... but I'd still certainly like to see the Bots.

  • 06.14.2004 8:49 AM PDT
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Not proof at all.

  • 06.14.2004 8:51 AM PDT
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No, its not 100 % proof, but it is a reasonable indication that there may be bots. Bots are so highly requested ( I know I'll be a little dissapointed if they aren't in) that Bungie will probably keep it a secret one way or another untill release.

I wrote a post about a month ago about the possibility of the ODSTs being bots, but no one seemed interested. I'm glad to see this thread come up.

  • 06.14.2004 9:35 AM PDT
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OK no offense...
but its EXTREMELY obvious that the ODSTs are bots.
When that was released, it was released under "multiplayer screenshots" alond several other multiplayer screen shots...none of which were supposed to be single player. If anyone remembers that lovely night when bungie released all of the beauty!

  • 06.14.2004 10:17 AM PDT
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Congrats for the find!
I already had that notion of those ODSTs being Bots but I wasn’t sure. All I knew was that it was on Zanzibar and the green colour of MC’s armour was different (a lot like the MC’s blue armour of the E3 2004).
However with you’re new discovery It gets even more clear…with only two points missing: why they aren’t fighting MC? (Bot’s AI isn’t finished yet?) or, are they merely playable characters? (Like the elites?), or are they simply posing for the picture?
I’m not sure yet, but much more confident I can tell you that!
Once again that was a great find.
Thanks man!


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  • 06.14.2004 11:09 AM PDT

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Im pretty sure it would hassle bungie to spawn afew ODSTs on the zanzibar beach and take a screenshot of it! I think your all jumping to conclusions regarding ODSTs as bots! It was a screenie for E3 for gods sake Im pretty sure they just spawned some ODST models!

  • 06.14.2004 11:12 AM PDT
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Hann and xmdthelonerngr,

Read my abovie post about the Yellow Elite screenshot and think on it for a second. These screen shots are doctored, flat out simply doctored. Either that or there's a mini-me Spartan that's only about six inches tall.

  • 06.14.2004 11:15 AM PDT
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dude it should be like this

easy:jackels/marines/grunts
normal:elites/odsts/elites with plasma swords
hard: brute/spartan/mystery covenant that flips hogs

  • 06.14.2004 11:16 AM PDT
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wait....didnt they say that zanzibar would NOT make an appearance in SP....they did say that..so you can either be a ODST or there are ODST bots...hmmm...well we wont find out till they tell us or when it comes out

  • 06.14.2004 11:17 AM PDT

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ODSTs WILL NOT be bots. Taht was just an attractive picture that they put up. They just spawned afew ODSTs and put them with master chief. besides, Why would chief hold his weapon downwards...hes supposed to be aiming it!

  • 06.14.2004 11:19 AM PDT
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The Yellow Elite pic does not prove anything. None of the pics show a camera angle you can get. The pause the gameplay then move the camera around anywhere in the level they want to until they get they angly they like. All of the pics are taken this way not just the Golden Elite pic.

Notice though the sky is sunny for the Golden Elite and cloudy on the rest of the MP pics from Zanzibar.

  • 06.14.2004 11:20 AM PDT
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Or (and now I’m just guessing) there will be bots for those ppl ho like, or can only play alone AND there will be Bots in a revolutionary multiplayer game type where each player has a squad of ODSTs bots to help him out! ;)
Honestly now! Some ppl are taking this maters to seriously, instead of having fun! It’s a game! And only a game...well, the best game of all times but, lol………. guess there’s no use in finishing the statement
Damn! Thinking too deep! ;)

  • 06.14.2004 11:25 AM PDT

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