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Subject: Halo 3 AutoUpdate
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Posted by: The RatFlail
Im really disappointed actually. I mean fixing the melee is good and all, But being the forger I am (and Forge Hub Guilder), I was hoping and expecting 'Immunity to Assassinations' option added to the current Game types options.

As Assassinations ruin many game types, because its an instant kill even if players are invincible. It's really the main problem that affects the serous forging community.

-Asper49


I completely agree. I'm so sick of getting killed in Rocket Race just so that some jerk can have his Killed VIP medal.

  • 02.20.2008 6:07 PM PDT
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oh why cant we have bxb and bxr and double shot back makes the game a little more interesting and fun

  • 02.20.2008 6:07 PM PDT

Uh, melee got worse. Now not only do I die more, in the off chance that I actually do kill someone in a melee contest, my shields get taken down. Change it back please.

  • 02.20.2008 6:09 PM PDT
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how about you fix everything about this game

beatdown system is still bad

overshield is crap my whole overshield goes down after one melee but when i stick someone with overshield with a sticky grenade nothing happens what the hell is that

foundry sucks

spawns are crap also


everything about this game is crap

you can win twenty games and still not rank up but when you lose 2 games you rank down wtf!!!!


weapons on map are stupid get rid of shotty on snowbound get rid of rockets on epitaph

how about you get rid of those two maps all together

halo 3 is garbage

  • 02.20.2008 6:13 PM PDT
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Yeah a list of every tweak and change would be nice. It would be interesting to know even the tiniest variable changes.

Also has anyone noticed if the BR spread has been tightened. I was shooting around with it and i noticed in some cases is was shooting perfect straight on shots from the distance but sometimes it was also spreading out the shots.

  • 02.20.2008 6:13 PM PDT

Posted by: x Square One x
how about you fix everything about this game

beatdown system is still bad

overshield is crap my whole overshield goes down after one melee but when i stick someone with overshield with a sticky grenade nothing happens what the hell is that

foundry sucks

spawns are crap also


everything about this game is crap

you can win twenty games and still not rank up but when you lose 2 games you rank down wtf!!!!


weapons on map are stupid get rid of shotty on snowbound get rid of rockets on epitaph

how about you get rid of those two maps all together

halo 3 is garbage

You pretty much stated every problem with Halo 3, and you're right. It's not that hard to get rid of one weapon on a single map Bungie. You can change the maps with team hardcore, why not take out the cheap weapons on Epitaph and Snowbound. Really, the game would be a lot more enjoyable if those weapons were out.

  • 02.20.2008 6:15 PM PDT
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frankie i told my friend that it would come wed at the earliest..and by damn i was right XD but i want to know more of the minor things...i noticed the BR has more power...

  • 02.20.2008 6:24 PM PDT
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If anybody at Bungie is reading this, I want to say how dissapointed I am in the new melee system. After playing with it I've come to the conclusion I no longer can use the melee. This is because more often than not when I use it odds are where both going to die. I actually prefer the old system, even though it was random sometimes it didn't suck all the time. It woulld have been better if there was a parry system instead of a murder-murder system put in.

  • 02.20.2008 6:57 PM PDT
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If it's not broken we'll fix until it is.

-Bungie

After playing a few games of FFA I must say that I like the new melee system, good job!

  • 02.20.2008 7:08 PM PDT
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This was not a minor update. I'm pretty sure everyone is as pissed off as me about this update. First off, what the hell is the problem with having the guy who beats down FIRST win? Doesn't that make perfect sense? Think about it. I get that there are bad people that do play this game, but that's their problem. Come on though.... Why bother with these people. If there was a skilled melee, they'd get better and then there would be no problem. I saw no problem at all with Halo 2. Halo 2 was skill. The beat down worked. Period. There's nothing else to it. The faster player with better reflexes won the melee contest. I mean of course there was the additional BXB glitch, but if you ask me the BXB and the other weapon glitches are what made the game good. Bungie is now worried about the beat down because of the BXB. The new players didn't know how to do it. But this is Halo 3 Bungie, not Halo 2. There's no more BXB and there never will be. It's just a press of a button for Halo 3, but it takes reflex. I didn't understand why so many people on my friends list are playing other games. Now I understand why. I've been playing more and more of Halo 2 lately. Halo 3 has become one of the most skill lacking games I've ever played. Not only does the melee suck, but the rate of fire, the weapon sets, the map layout, and even the basic gameplay. There's so much wrong with this game. It might as well have been made for people that are new to the Xbox 360. But Bungie, tell me what happens when these "noobs" become better. They'll see the problem with the beat down. And you'll lose customers to Call of Duty 4 and Gears of War 2 which is coming out in November. If you don't make this game more legit that will happen. I've already seen a major decrease in the amount of players in Halo 3 since Call of Duty 4 came out. I will never play Call of Duty 4 again, and I will stay loyal to Halo 3, but there needs to be many updates to this game. I'll make a list:

1) Fix the melee. This game should not be directed to "noobs" anymore. The person with the first beat down should win the melee battle. Also, the beat down with an objective item in Matchmaking should always be one hit kill. I'm pretty sure many people agree with this. If you can't make it one hit kill, you should make it so that when you jump and beat down it's a one hit kill. Just like in Halo 2. Also the beat down with a regular gun should take down less shields. It should take down a half when standing still, three fourths while running, and all shields when jumping (not meaning your dead, just one shot). This would make the game a lot more fair and legit.

2) The sniper. I see two things wrong with the sniper. The most noticeable thing is the rate of fire. It is way too slow. You should make it about a half a second faster between shots. The second thing I noticed was that the shot between first and second or third and fourth has a delay. It is about a one and a half second wait and I don't think it should be there.

3) Overshield. There are many problems with the overshield. First being that it's too weak. It needs to be a three times overshield like in Halo 2. Instead it only gives you a double shield, which basically does nothing. All it takes is two head shots with the sniper and you're dead. Another thing wrong with it is that it takes too long to fully charge. I'll give you an example. All of us skilled players have heard the line, "Wait for them to come to us to pick up the overshield." Does anyone know why this is? They're taking advantage of Bungie's mistake. Have you ever gone over the gravity lift on Guardian that leads to the overshield on the sniper tower? Once you got there you picked up the stick grenades so you could stick someone and get an easy kill. But out of no where the overshield guy comes in. So you throw a stick grenade in panic and run away. Even though the stick grenade lands right on the guys face he doesn't die, but instead you do. Either by getting assault rifled, or by getting knocked off the map by your own stick grenade. This has happened to me a lot. And the worst part is that you always have the shotgun. What happened was that the guy with overshield just picked it up. The overshield makes you invincible for a good 10 to 15 seconds. In Halo 2 you were invincible for 5. I see a major problem with this.

4) One shot kill guns. If you camp with the mauler, shotgun, sword, hammer, rockets, etc. I don't like you. I had to put the etc. there because it's basically an endless list. I even classify the brute shot under this category. All you need to do is shoot the guy once and then beat down. Automatic kill just like the mauler. There are too many power weapons in this game. Even though Bungie doesn't classify them as power weapons, they really are. I recommend putting just one power weapon, if any on a map. Excluding the sniper rifle. That gun takes skill to aim unlike the shotgun which you camp underground with and shoot someone once and then they die and of course you tee-bag him. That's a problem. Once you get those weapons you won. That shouldn't be that way.

This is a new list I made really quickly. If you would like me to add to this send me an email: [email]mszhang31@yahoo.com[/email] about what you would like. Bungie, I hope you read this and think about it. Halo 3 is the best, but... it's not how it should be.

  • 02.20.2008 7:14 PM PDT
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IT is time for some................PIE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 02.20.2008 7:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: x Square One x
how about you fix everything about this game

beatdown system is still bad

overshield is crap my whole overshield goes down after one melee but when i stick someone with overshield with a sticky grenade nothing happens what the hell is that

foundry sucks

spawns are crap also


everything about this game is crap

you can win twenty games and still not rank up but when you lose 2 games you rank down wtf!!!!


weapons on map are stupid get rid of shotty on snowbound get rid of rockets on epitaph

how about you get rid of those two maps all together

halo 3 is garbage


Learn how to play the game and then come back.

  • 02.20.2008 7:19 PM PDT
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i think he knows. he stated almost everything wrong with the game

[Edited on 02.20.2008 7:32 PM PST]

  • 02.20.2008 7:21 PM PDT
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thanks for making me not want to play halo3 anymore, is there any way to get a refund for buying the game now that it is ruined. The melee update is the worst thing i have ever seen.

  • 02.20.2008 7:33 PM PDT

"Seems to me you should spend less time on that article and more time working on that novel you've been working on!!!"

That's all dandy and I'm really excited to hear all this, but what useful info did you gather from the V-day hopper?

  • 02.20.2008 7:37 PM PDT

"Seems to me you should spend less time on that article and more time working on that novel you've been working on!!!"

Posted by: x Square One x
how about you fix everything about this game

beatdown system is still bad

overshield is crap my whole overshield goes down after one melee but when i stick someone with overshield with a sticky grenade nothing happens what the hell is that

foundry sucks

spawns are crap also


everything about this game is crap

you can win twenty games and still not rank up but when you lose 2 games you rank down wtf!!!!


weapons on map are stupid get rid of shotty on snowbound get rid of rockets on epitaph

how about you get rid of those two maps all together

halo 3 is garbage
That's what Forge is for my pet armadillo bear. Now calm down. More Halo games shall arise, perhaps they will appeal better to your liking.

  • 02.20.2008 7:40 PM PDT

err did you guys fix that ghost glitch yet?

  • 02.20.2008 7:52 PM PDT

Where are we?

Added backend hopper support for DLC custom game variants

What does this mean???

  • 02.20.2008 7:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: Z3R0OneOneSe7en
frankie i told my friend that it would come wed at the earliest..and by damn i was right XD but i want to know more of the minor things...i noticed the BR has more power...


BR has more power? yay!!!

  • 02.20.2008 8:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: x Square One x
oh why cant we have bxb and bxr and double shot back makes the game a little more interesting and fun


yep

  • 02.20.2008 8:09 PM PDT

When in Trouble use the Bubble! ✇

TO EVERYBODY, especially the ones complaining: please read!
The only reason you see this update as crap, is because its something new, something different, just like cloverfield, you need to get over it... I admit I currently dont like the way the update is working right now, I find myself dying more than ever, and I don't like that... but you have to realize that they can't satisfy everyone, when halo 3 first came out many people were complaining about how asthetically the melee didnt add up,(I don't know if this is a time for layman's...but...) in layman's terms, what you saw was not what actually happened. but, after a while people got used to that, and didn't worry about it anymore.
But , Bungie, being the nice people that they are, wanted to make the game the best they could, they wanted to make the melee better... So they did! You may not think that... But they did! They spent along time fixing and perfecting the melee and if they are going to spend this much time on the melee then I trust them. I trust that Bungie did the right thing.
Once you get used to it and figure out its for the best, you'll love it.
just give it some time... ok... cool.

  • 02.20.2008 8:14 PM PDT

how long well the upgrade be done.plz tell,me. im tired of getting kill in lags,in lone wolves

  • 02.20.2008 8:37 PM PDT
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thats nonsense try it in a custom its the same

  • 02.20.2008 8:39 PM PDT

the update helps alot thanks!

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the new melee is awesome!..i love how we both die...now i get a point when doin the melee...thanks bungie..i love u....if u run out of slaves just call me....ill help u in world domination.

  • 02.20.2008 8:52 PM PDT