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Posted by: Texas Ben
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linkin park is ear cancer


I know your allowed to express your opinino but we heard you the first time i agree about the whole rap deal. On the other hand Linkin Park isnt that damn bad I love how they can mix rap and rock I think they are rather revolutionary. Yes over played but for a good reason. Now hearing you repeat yourself so many times gets rather annoying like that scientist in the Simpons. Oyvan Glayvan. It's funny but gets annoying.

Linkin park is okay, but their lyrics suck.

There music is pretty good...but ya, their singing and their lyrics are...well if I wanted lyrics like that I would set my house and fire and listen to my family yell at me.

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Damn. Buffalo, i'm really sorry about your brother.


Thanks for your sympathy, thought i'd rather not talk about it anymore. Gets me depressed.

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Oh and for all of you saying that Rock dosnt expose women then umm your wrong. Realy Realy wrong. I love rock and metal but heh look at Montely Crew and their song "Girls, Girls, Girls" and many other 80's American bands just as bad as the newage rappers. But anywho at the very least the musick was better. The only rap I like is DMX and Eminem but i have to be in the mood. Oh and obvioulsy you dont go club hoping other wise you would be rather ok with rap.

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Posted by: Kendoboy
Oh and for all of you saying that Rock dosnt expose women then umm your wrong. Realy Realy wrong. I love rock and metal but heh look at Montely Crew and their song "Girls, Girls, Girls" and many other 80's American bands just as bad as the newage rappers. But anywho at the very least the musick was better. The only rap I like is DMX and Eminem but i have to be in the mood. Oh and obvioulsy you dont go club hoping other wise you would be rather ok with rap.

Wrong... you don't hear any rock songs degrading women nearly as much as rap (most rock anyway...). I mean come on.... -blam!-es? Hos? Whores? Sluts? that's pretty much all they are referred to as.

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Oh and for all of you saying that Rock dosnt expose women then umm your wrong. Realy Realy wrong. I love rock and metal but heh look at Montely Crew and their song "Girls, Girls, Girls" and many other 80's American bands just as bad as the newage rappers. But anywho at the very least the musick was better. The only rap I like is DMX and Eminem but i have to be in the mood. Oh and obvioulsy you dont go club hoping other wise you would be rather ok with rap.

Wrong... you don't hear any rock songs degrading women nearly as much as rap (most rock anyway...). I mean come on.... -blam!-es? Hos? Whores? Sluts? that's pretty much all they are referred to as.

Oh, I dunno Ben. Look at some of AC/DC's songs. Not for the kiddies. But still not as bad as most rap.

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Posted by: Texas Ben
Posted by: Kendoboy
Oh and for all of you saying that Rock dosnt expose women then umm your wrong. Realy Realy wrong. I love rock and metal but heh look at Montely Crew and their song "Girls, Girls, Girls" and many other 80's American bands just as bad as the newage rappers. But anywho at the very least the musick was better. The only rap I like is DMX and Eminem but i have to be in the mood. Oh and obvioulsy you dont go club hoping other wise you would be rather ok with rap.

Wrong... you don't hear any rock songs degrading women nearly as much as rap (most rock anyway...). I mean come on.... -blam!-es? Hos? Whores? Sluts? that's pretty much all they are referred to as.


LIsten to some hard core old rock and you will be suprised. Oh and old rap is actualy good its not like newage. As a mater of fact most new age musick sucks. What happen to the good days of Red Hot Chili Pepers, Nirvan, Bush, GooGoo Dolls, Korn, and the good oll Metallica before they sold out. Oh and the realy good oll days of Pink Floyd, Led Zeplin, AC DC and so on...

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Posted by: Kendoboy
Oh and for all of you saying that Rock dosnt expose women then umm your wrong. Realy Realy wrong. I love rock and metal but heh look at Montely Crew and their song "Girls, Girls, Girls" and many other 80's American bands just as bad as the newage rappers. But anywho at the very least the musick was better. The only rap I like is DMX and Eminem but i have to be in the mood. Oh and obvioulsy you dont go club hoping other wise you would be rather ok with rap.

Wrong... you don't hear any rock songs degrading women nearly as much as rap (most rock anyway...). I mean come on.... -blam!-es? Hos? Whores? Sluts? that's pretty much all they are referred to as.


LIsten to some hard core old rock and you will be suprised. Oh and old rap is actualy good its not like newage. As a mater of fact most new age musick sucks. What happen to the good days of Red Hot Chili Pepers, Nirvan, Bush, GooGoo Dolls, Korn, and the good oll Metallica before they sold out. Oh and the realy good oll days of Pink Floyd, Led Zeplin, AC DC and so on...

I listen to old music exclusively. I still feel that Rap is more degrading to women.

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Posted by: Kendoboy
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Oh and for all of you saying that Rock dosnt expose women then umm your wrong. Realy Realy wrong. I love rock and metal but heh look at Montely Crew and their song "Girls, Girls, Girls" and many other 80's American bands just as bad as the newage rappers. But anywho at the very least the musick was better. The only rap I like is DMX and Eminem but i have to be in the mood. Oh and obvioulsy you dont go club hoping other wise you would be rather ok with rap.

Wrong... you don't hear any rock songs degrading women nearly as much as rap (most rock anyway...). I mean come on.... -blam!-es? Hos? Whores? Sluts? that's pretty much all they are referred to as.


LIsten to some hard core old rock and you will be suprised. Oh and old rap is actualy good its not like newage. As a mater of fact most new age musick sucks. What happen to the good days of Red Hot Chili Pepers, Nirvan, Bush, GooGoo Dolls, Korn, and the good oll Metallica before they sold out. Oh and the realy good oll days of Pink Floyd, Led Zeplin, AC DC and so on...


some new stuff is good, like modest mouse, the killers (kind of remind me off duran duran thou), my chemical romance, and coheed and cambria.


Coheed and Cambria sucks. The lead singer needs a few Y cromosamoes.

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I don't like rap because it gets on my nerves No Offence

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...with the other one being the Linkoln Park guy.


*ahem* Mike Shinoda.

Yeah, that guy. I'd rather if he didn't rap as much, but oh well.

  • 01.15.2005 7:58 PM PDT

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...with the other one being the Linkoln Park guy.


*ahem* Mike Shinoda.

Yeah, that guy. I'd rather if he didn't rap as much, but oh well.


see you rock people cant stop dissing rap

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i agree....u cant stop......u ppl made this post 5pgs long saying the same -blam!- over n over.... because u want to diss it as much as u can.......and some one said that the rappers are dumb.....dude eminem and 50 cent and -blam!-.....they read the -blam!- dictionary.... ok...they write there own lyrics 99 percect of the time.....not all rappers talk about sex and guns and -blam!-.. and linkin park is good

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i agree....u cant stop......u ppl made this post 5pgs long saying the same -blam!- over n over.... because u want to diss it as much as u can.......and some one said that the rappers are dumb.....dude eminem and 50 cent and -blam!-.....they read the -blam!-in dictionary.... ok...they write there own lyrics 99 percect of the time.....not all rappers talk about sex and guns and -blam!-.. and linkin park is good


Just a tad too many ellipses in that post. Not even I use that many.

Just 'cause someone reads the dictionary doesn't mean they're smart. The truth is, most rappers are dumbasses. Nearly all of them have dropped out of school. When they were in school, they didn't pay attention. Then you can compare them with a band like Radiohead, who all graduated from Stanford (I think it was Stanford...). Sorry, buddy, but most rappers just aren't very smart. If they were smart, they wouldn't be rappers.

Writing your own lyrics isn't an indication of intelligence, either. It just means you can make words rhyme (and half the time in rap they rhyme a word with itself).

And I agree with the whole degradation of women thing. Even though some of the older hardcore rock has some pretty degrading stuff about women, there aren't a whole lot of references to women being "-blam!-es" and "hos" and stuff about them "backin' that ass up".

Not all rappers talk about sex, guns, drugs, or being rich? Not even in at least one of their songs? I'll beleive it when you give me an example.

The main reason lots of people hate rap is because they have an appreciation of actual music that took actual talent to write. The people who truly can say they appreciate music look down on rap as a sort of cancer to the music world (to me, pop-punk and just about any kind of punk past about 1997 falls into the same category). That's why we make fun of rap and "diss" on it...because it's pathetic, mindless, unintelligent garbage.

Oh, the other reason I really hate rap is the whole "gangsta" lifestyle that goes with it. With all the retarded baggy clothes and jewelery and whatnot. Then they think they need to go off and kill people so they can be "thugs." For what reason? What does that accomplish in life? All it does is make them more worthless. Heck, they aren't even real thugs. All half of them do is kill some defenseless, innocent person who was in the wrong place at the wrong time (like in the case of Buffalo Wing's brother...man, that seriously sucks.). At least the Mafia (who are the real "thugs"...kinda bad that I'm praising them like that, but it is true) mostly kept the fighting confined to mob families. Anyone who's a decent shot and has a basic knowledge of fighting tactics could totally own a "thug."



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Posted by: Casey
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i agree....u cant stop......u ppl made this post 5pgs long saying the same -blam!- over n over.... because u want to diss it as much as u can.......and some one said that the rappers are dumb.....dude eminem and 50 cent and -blam!-.....they read the -blam!-in dictionary.... ok...they write there own lyrics 99 percect of the time.....not all rappers talk about sex and guns and -blam!-.. and linkin park is good


Just a tad few ellipses in that post. Not eve I use that many.

Just 'cause someone reads the dictionary doesn't mean they're smart. The truth is, most rappers are dumbasses. Nearly all of them have dropped out of school. When they were in school, they didn't pay attention. Then you compare them with a band like Radiohead, who all graduated from Stanford (I think it was Stanford...). Sorry, buddy, but most rappers just aren't very smart. If they were smart, they wouldn't be rappers.

Writing your own lyrics isn't an indication of intelligence, either. It just means you can make words rhyme (and half the time in rap they rhyme a word with itself).

And I agree with the whole degradation of women thing. Even though some of the older hardcore rock has some pretty degrading stuff about women, there aren't a whole lot of references to women being "-blam!-es" and "hos" and stuff about them "backin' that ass up".

Not all rappers talk about sex, guns, drugs, or being rich? Not even in at least one of their songs? I'll beleive it when you give me an example.

The main reason lots of people hate rap is because they have an appreciation of actual music that took actual talent to write. The people who truly can say they appreciate music look down on rap as a sort of cancer to the music world (to me, pop-punk and just about any kind of punk past about 1997 falls into the same category). That's why we make fun of rap and "diss" on it...because it's pathetic, mindless, unintelligent garbage.


Couldn't have said it better myself.

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There music is pretty good...but ya, their singing and their lyrics are...well if I wanted lyrics like that I would set my house and fire and listen to my family yell at me.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Dude, that was so friggin' funny. It's true, though. Linkin Park has some of the whiniest, crappiest, depresso-iest lyrics out there.

Focus on the good things in life!

If they had good lyrics, they would be a lot better.

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some new stuff is good, like modest mouse, the killers (kind of remind me off duran duran thou), my chemical romance, and coheed and cambria.


Eh, most of that stuff is okay. You left out System of a Down and Queens of the Stone Age, though. Those are two bands who I feel will actually be remembered for generations to come.

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The main rapper I hate is Eminem,all his songs do is make fun of other people,and thats how he makes money?Its pathetic.

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not all of his songs make fun of some one.....thou shalt not speak till thou knowest

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  • 01.16.2005 12:44 PM PDT

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only thing "hip hop" is good for is clubs, rock kicks raps ass, some of this new stuff with rock and rap mixed is alright but it needs less rap.

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Posted by: Casey
Posted by: Griffin Spades
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some new stuff is good, like modest mouse, the killers (kind of remind me off duran duran thou), my chemical romance, and coheed and cambria.


Eh, most of that stuff is okay. You left out System of a Down and Queens of the Stone Age, though. Those are two bands who I feel will actually be remembered for generations to come.


Three Days Grace rocks

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...with the other one being the Linkoln Park guy.


*ahem* Mike Shinoda.

Yeah, that guy. I'd rather if he didn't rap as much, but oh well.


see you rock people cant stop dissing rap


we need a support group

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There music is pretty good...but ya, their singing and their lyrics are...well if I wanted lyrics like that I would set my house and fire and listen to my family yell at me.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Dude, that was so friggin' funny. It's true, though. Linkin Park has some of the whiniest, crappiest, depresso-iest lyrics out there.

Focus on the good things in life!

If they had good lyrics, they would be a lot better.

Tru7h.

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Posted by: GothGuy
Posted by: un gato
...with the other one being the Linkoln Park guy.


*ahem* Mike Shinoda.

Yeah, that guy. I'd rather if he didn't rap as much, but oh well.


see you rock people cant stop dissing rap


we need a support group


A rock support group? Check my sig.

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