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Subject: The Official Halo 3 Vista suggestions thread. Updated 03/29/08

Posted by: halo2vista
I also want a racism policy. Advanced server stuff. I just got lots of racism from my last game of Halo 2 Vista.
I want world peace, but I don't think we'll be getting it any time soon...

Sorry buddy, but I don't think I'll be including that in any future updates. Xbox live and Windows Live both have feedback systems.Use them when needed.

  • 06.16.2008 9:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: halo2vista
I also want a racism policy. Advanced server stuff. I just got lots of racism from my last game of Halo 2 Vista.
I want world peace, but I don't think we'll be getting it any time soon...

Sorry buddy, but I don't think I'll be including that in any future updates. Xbox live and Windows Live both have feedback systems.Use them when needed.


Xbox Live doesn't seem to review any complaints I or other people file. And fix the player review policy. Since when did a bad review make someon's reputation go up?

  • 06.16.2008 10:37 PM PDT

Posted by: halo2vista
Xbox Live doesn't seem to review any complaints I or other people file. And fix the player review policy. Since when did a bad review make someon's reputation go up?
It doesn't.

  • 07.11.2008 7:06 AM PDT
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Ha, IF Halo 3 ever comes out for PC.
You know what? It would be World war Eighteen when they release Halo 3 For PC, thats my bet, and if it's off? well ill be damned!!

  • 07.11.2008 7:28 AM PDT
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I think its good enough to say to those of you who go "why would bungie care?" that if theres already 10 pages on this topic alone, there is more than likely people who will buy halo 3 making bungie money... Plus having programmed a few side projects for friends in the past, I know that a user giving say 5 minutes of input can possibly add years to how long a product can be enjoyed. Even if you have your doubts about them porting it its better for them to have this information available as it could be useful in ANY of the games they make.


As for Suggestions...

Halo 1 was a very solid port. I still play it with my clan and most are waiting for Halo 3 to come out due to Halo 2 being generally a P.O.S. One good move in Halo 2 was stats tracking but honestly... Live is absolute garbage, most the servers I can't even get a ping readout on, I can't get on my own server, and now my server doesn't work because apparently the maximum # of servers live has for a copy of H2 is less than 1 even though right in the readme it tells you how to make multiple instances. I never handed out my key or anything so... something is definitely going on there that is wrong... Not to mention the weird twitching most people get when first playing it.


So things that are good move for H3:

1) Stat tracking- It was a good move to do the xml pages but not everyone hunts down stats like that.

2) Remote Console (Rcon)- Worked for Halo 1, it'll work for Halo 3. No more of this "go outta game remote desktop and ban" stuff. Even if banning by unique gamertag is a good idea, can't we do the same thing in a in game console?

3) Use of Internal-External ip-. I could never host a game on Halo 1 unless everyone playing was at my school playing on lan. Halo 2 did a good job on ext-local ip addressing but It'd be nice if I could actually play on my own server and monitor it for hacks myself...


4) Cross platforming- I don't mind crossplatforming but getting the balance will be difficult. Personally I'd say no aim help at all since I know a few guys who are really good players with a controller and don't need a "built in bot" as we call them in our clan. You will however want to make sure mice players don't have the absolute advantage either. However being able to play buddies who have an xbox can easily add shelf life.

4b) On the topic of cross platforming, I know this is a long shot and a lotta people are begging for Dx10 as opposed to OpenGL or another cross platforming language but there are a lot of linux and Mac users who would love to see new Halo games on their machines. I won't throw in the xp vista issue. Vista can be tweaked for better performance but by the time H3 comes out we'll probably have newer software to choose from.

5) Tech Support - While some players here are going a little heavy on nailing bungie with tech support, They are allowed an opinion (as do the guys who go "wtf dude chill a bit"). Needless to say, this forum has plenty of unanswered topics or topics answered by players and the Sawnose made that patch he got a LOT of popular support and graditude. Its honestly the best way to keep future potential customers, Even if you make the coolest games around not backing them up will quickly lose a consumers interest.

5b) If you do have tech support, make sure its clear where to get help for what. The H2 dedi readme gave one site (I believe an xbox microsoft off shoot) , to which I was bounced to microsoft to find they had nothing but to be bounced here.

6) Unique gamertags and other "admin helpers"- To be honest, punkbuster, anti cheat, etc has all been done in the past and the only truly effective way to lose hackers has been for server admins to take care of it. Unique gamertags allow for easier banning, so a gamertag-Hashcode ban system would be effective even if the player leaves before someone with remote console can ban them. Also perhaps tools such as video capture, sightjacker etc would be helpful since most people ask for proof nowadays. The simple truth is if you don't program them, someone else will and everyone ends up with it anyway.

7) In game "teamspeak"- If you're going to put in another Voip make sure its as solid as Ventrillo. Most Halo 2 voice users came out as mumbled garbage and was really more of an annoyance than a teammate trying to be useful. Some H2V servers ban people with "broken mics" and other players just shut off their voice and use vent anyway since most these users sound just fine over vent.

8) Clan System - One problem I had with H2V was I had to make a whole other account when I decided to put my clan tag on but I'm still a supporter of the unique gamertag idea. Several other games have clan/guild/group/club systems so it would definitely improve H3. Probably the easiest way is having the clan founder/admin designating who can join, who can add/drop members, etc.

9) No in-game ip address displays- This seems to be how most these DDosing noobs are getting our server ips to shut them down. Apparently you only have to join once to get the ip and beyond that its a simple targeted port attack. If a admin wants to give out ips for matches he can do so, No need for the game to give it away as well. Will this stop DDosing? Probably not but it will sure reduce the number of kids doing it.


I understand not all of these will make it into the final port but like I said, I figured it'd be better to offer ideas now, than have a cursing fit about not doing so later. =P

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  • 07.11.2008 8:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: Lucian78
9) No in-game ip address displays- This seems to be how most these DDosing noobs are getting our server ips to shut them down. Apparently you only have to join once to get the ip and beyond that its a simple targeted port attack. If a admin wants to give out ips for matches he can do so, No need for the game to give it away as well. Will this stop DDosing? Probably not but it will sure reduce the number of kids doing it.

I'd have to say not displaing the server IP address is a pretty bad idea even if it was a selectable server option. Any person who has the ability/know-how to attack a server will know how to get the server ip. Since, by not showing the server ip, the client is connected to the server then they will be able to get the server ip reguardless of whether the server shows it in-game. Heck, all they would have to do is have xfire running and connect to the server. And if the server is listed on some master list, then you can also get the server ip from that.

Not listing the server ip in game won't stop malicious attacks and only cause headaches for server admins in the long wrong.

  • 07.11.2008 2:08 PM PDT
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here's another suggestion. MAKE SURE IT WKS FOR XP TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hell, my laptop still has Windows 2000. lol


http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=22230716&v iewreplies=true#end

VOTE NAO!!!

  • 07.12.2008 5:46 AM PDT

I know my nickname is absolutely stupid. Consider it a sin of my youth...

Hey guys!

Long time ago since I wrote the last time...didn't think about Halo 3 for a while because of DoD and TF2 ;-)
But now I'm quite bored again...there are no games left anymore which I could play.
Are there any news about a port of H3 for pc?
Bungie or Microsoft didn't say or anounced anything, did they?
I'm really tired of waiting for H3 for pc! Why do they let us wait all the time without saying anything...I think Bungie really doesn't care about it's community/fanbase - and that sucks! You can't even contact them to say what we want so they'll never read this...
I read an article long time ago when Halo 3 was released for Xbox360. In this article they said that Microsoft definitely wants to do a port, but they need more time because they don't want to do the same mistake again like they did with Halo 2 for Vista! So, Microsoft - where is that port now, huh? If they'd say at least anything about a port they're working on I'd be more than happy - but they say nothing! I don't want to hear a release date or sth. like that, just: "Oh, sure we're working on a port of Halo 3 and it works fine...!" But in this case of absolutely silence I'm really angry about them and I'm disappointed, too.
There are lots of other "game-factories" that are way better than Bungie or Microsoft...Valve for example, or Blizzard - the community is an important factor for them and they listen to what the community says, but Bungie and Microsoft do not! In my eyes you're pathetic! I'd really prefer to curse now, but then they blacklist me...that's not my aim ;-)
But maybe that would be a way of being heard by them, looks like they don't understand a different way of communication.

Have I mentioned that I'm really pissed of about Bungie and Microsoft ;-)





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I LOL'd at this thread. Halo 3 Vista......LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL!

Want a preview on how it's going to be like? It's easy, this is Bungie. Put the netcode Halo PC had(basically leading) and the horrible game that is Halo 2, let alone H2V(overall crap), turn the blender on and out comes out your Halo 3 "insert name of yet another half-assed operating system MicroTards come up with here".

I can't wait to see yet another failure from Microsoft, it's going to be very entertaining.

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Easier map editor to use,quicker matchmaking ,xp support thats how you do a windows live game especially halo

  • 07.12.2008 12:49 PM PDT
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+ Proper dedicated servers like every other game has, but H2PC hasn't.

+ XP compatible. They'll have another OS to try sell again soon though, so I suppose they'll try the "We couldn't make the game so awesome without using our new OS" line again, despite there not actually being any reason for it as was proved with H2PC (like how it actually performed better on XP).

+ No forced matchmaking. I personally find matchmaking to be a horrible experience.

+ No Windows Games Live (or whatever) service. If you must, make it optional for those who'd like to have all the stats tracked.

+ Stat tracking!

+ A good map and resource editor.

+ Oh, and frequent updates. You know, the opposite of what the past two ports got.

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I've heard more crap complaints about H2V is running or lack of a better word not running on XP than Vista. I really don't see where you got that statistic from...

To be honest I swapped to vista because XP just had way too many updates lagging up the system. Takes my laptop a good 10-15 min to boot up.

Right now I have vista, IE, Pidgin, some sidebar doodads, and some of our network software running on this vista machine, 1.3gb ram used. By booting XP on my laptop I have basically the same amount being used. Only difference is the laptop had to go into about .3gb of page file.



Gee...And just about everyone wonders why I use a linux OS on the laptop more than I do windows...

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Posted by: Lucian78
I've heard more crap complaints about H2V is running or lack of a better word not running on XP than Vista. I really don't see where you got that statistic from...

To be honest I swapped to vista because XP just had way too many updates lagging up the system. Takes my laptop a good 10-15 min to boot up.

Right now I have vista, IE, Pidgin, some sidebar doodads, and some of our network software running on this vista machine, 1.3gb ram used. By booting XP on my laptop I have basically the same amount being used. Only difference is the laptop had to go into about .3gb of page file.



Gee...And just about everyone wonders why I use a linux OS on the laptop more than I do windows...


Too many updates lagging up the system? Sounds like the problem was with you, not XP. ;)

  • 07.12.2008 8:28 PM PDT
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Agreed with btcc22. If your laptop took 10-15 mins to boot up xp, then your laptop had a serious problem and not the OS its self.

  • 07.13.2008 10:41 AM PDT
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I don't think so. Considering programming computers and system/machine architecture is a huge part of my major, I would know if it was the laptop hardware. Especially since I've gotten other operating systems to work perfectly on it.

My point in the above post is XP on boot uses more resources than vista with several programs open. The reason the laptop takes 10-15 minutes is because it has to swap out the .3 gb in the page file into main memory for use by the processor. Had XP used less of that page file, the start up delay would never exist. I've honestly seen vista run faster on similar machines... For all I know it could just have some memory management script.

Direct proof of that is the linux boot (Ubuntu 8.04 A.K.A the latest edition of Ubuntu) makes this single core computer seem like its a windows OS on a multi-core machine. Its definitely the number of updates windows put into XP taking up all the resources on this machine. ;)

That and I just had my laptop sent in for checking and maintenance. Still has the same result as before any of its other checks. Needless to say, Windows XP sucks hardcore,

Microsoft doesn't make the best product on the market. Honestly, look at me with a straight face and tell me "Halo 2 vista is awesome and there are no problems with it."

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  • 07.13.2008 2:10 PM PDT

Forget Vista, it should be for Windows 7.

  • 07.13.2008 3:10 PM PDT

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Forget Vista, it should be for Windows 7.
Geez... well, so many things wrong with that, and at the same time, so right.

Wrong in the sense that...
1) I think microsoft actually would wait for the release of windows Seven, and -less than likely- DirectX11 (and with it, revolutionary graphics) before releasing Halo 3 as a PC title.

2) DirectX11 is actually being put on hold... It won't be released with Windows 7. newslink.

3) Windows seven is a long ways down the road, and the hardware specifications required for DirectX11 will be very high... Just a guess, but probably double the specs needed to run Crisis at 60+ FPS. And who could honestly afford that right now?

On the other hand, it would make sense for them to release it with windows seven, I mean look at how long it took them to port the last two games.

  • 07.21.2008 7:18 AM PDT
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I would not mind clan support for the PC version of the game.

I know this would be very difficult to do. But the idea of full map editor in this game and then being able to transfer that with the adjusted graphics to the 360 should still be a possibility. But since I guess the 360 disc was filled to the max, maybe this game should have 2 discs?

  • 07.22.2008 7:22 AM PDT
Subject: The Official Halo 3 Vista suggestions thread. Updated 03/29/08
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Vista Fails, and windows 7 is going to be a remake of vista..
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Halo 3 for pc.. hmmm well i read the first post, it should require at least an 7200+ (or specify better) so that way low end c's can join in on the fun, because halo 2 requires a 6000 or better to play, and im barely skimming it with a 6150 se.... ALSO who can honestly here say that they can afford and 8 series card, right off the back... god forbid a 9 series!

Not everyone cares about graphics, some care for performance (like me) i want to be able to run the game with decent looks, and good performance

yea that and halo 3 for vista needs to be made anti hack proof, and possibly XP compatible, better yet ALL operating systems, or most.. that'll help gain PC gamer popularity.. And maybe halo 3 for pc players could play against console players...

Just putting my own 2 cents in, will probably think of more ideas

  • 07.24.2008 7:52 AM PDT
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more people would play halo1pc updated then halo2 and halo3 pc together.

  • 07.24.2008 10:01 AM PDT
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honestly i'll believe it when i see it in my CD drive...

  • 07.25.2008 1:46 PM PDT
Subject: The Official Halo 3 Vista suggestions thread.

Posted by: odmichael
I would not mind clan support for the PC version of the game.

I know this would be very difficult to do. But the idea of full map editor in this game and then being able to transfer that with the adjusted graphics to the 360 should still be a possibility. But since I guess the 360 disc was filled to the max, maybe this game should have 2 discs?
Halo 3 took about 8 GBs of space on a DVD.

I'm not sure, but I think the Xbox360's optical drive is an HD DVD reader(NOT blu ray.). So, porting the game would be rather awkward I think. Just putting the game -as it is now- on the PC, would probably require two or three DVDs.

  • 07.31.2008 5:03 AM PDT

Posted by: MC Enders III
Posted by: odmichael
I would not mind clan support for the PC version of the game.

I know this would be very difficult to do. But the idea of full map editor in this game and then being able to transfer that with the adjusted graphics to the 360 should still be a possibility. But since I guess the 360 disc was filled to the max, maybe this game should have 2 discs?
Halo 3 took about 8 GBs of space on a DVD.

I'm not sure, but I think the Xbox360's optical drive is an HD DVD reader(NOT blu ray.). So, porting the game would be rather awkward I think. Just putting the game -as it is now- on the PC, would probably require two or three DVDs.

Actually the Xbox 360 opitcal drive is Dual Layer DVD drive.

  • 07.31.2008 7:21 AM PDT

Posted by: halo2vista
Posted by: MC Enders III
Posted by: odmichael
I would not mind clan support for the PC version of the game.

I know this would be very difficult to do. But the idea of full map editor in this game and then being able to transfer that with the adjusted graphics to the 360 should still be a possibility. But since I guess the 360 disc was filled to the max, maybe this game should have 2 discs?
Halo 3 took about 8 GBs of space on a DVD.

I'm not sure, but I think the Xbox360's optical drive is an HD DVD reader(NOT blu ray.). So, porting the game would be rather awkward I think. Just putting the game -as it is now- on the PC, would probably require two or three DVDs.

Actually the Xbox 360 opitcal drive is Dual Layer DVD drive.
My mistake. Well, at least now I know why it holds double the capacity of a normal DVD.

  • 07.31.2008 8:02 AM PDT

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-Crysis-like graphics would be sick.
-Help from CMT, considering they are professionals.
-Epic Studios would be good, but i would stilll like Gearbox and Bungie to be a part of it.
-A very good map editor and Forge.
-Matchmaking would be cool, but custom games could be run the way CE is run right now.
-More levels, possibly Arbiter subs(where was he when he wasn't helping you).
-A great router that prevents lag on all sides(big demand i'm sure)
-Anti-hacker support.
-Enough commitment to make the game great.
My wish list for Halo3 vista. :)


that's exactly what i want.

make the game dx9,10,10.1,and 11 supported if possible.

btw: dx 11 works on dx 10 and 10.1 hardware:)
dx 11 is for vista and later versions of windows(windows 7 aka Vienna)

also make this game look awesome i mean i don't want to get an game which looks an little better than halo 3 and get 200 fps with an intel core 2 quad...
than better make it 30-60 fps with everything on ultra high with an core 2 quad and that it looks really nice(better than crysis)

and also make it nice on old pc's

its not impossible(look to bf 2142 if you put the settings down it runs smooth and looks almost the same as on high)

multi core support

64 bit version(!!) should be able to play with 32 bit version.

clan support with stats if possible.

an good editing kit that has some sort of 3ds max build in.

forge.

matchmaking.

make an alpha test build public so we can say if we like it or not so it doesn't gets like halo 2 vista which is lame.

make the netcode like counterstrike or something.

voip support ingame.

widescreen support.

mlg for halo 3 pc.

matchmaking that works with halo 3 xbox 360 matchmaking

server browser for custom maps and pc servers who can add an name.

p2p anti lag system including best host selection.

anti cheat

easy weapons modding.

give us some cool new maps,weapons(fual rod in mp),and vehicles(rocket hog anyone)

some multiplayer map with pelicans,longswords and stuff like that we like to kick ass with nuke's and stuff

mp music let martin make some bones extra edition music.

legendery edition with an helmet again(cause i didnt had the money so tell us 6 months before that there comes an legendery edition and the price)

make the euro vs dollar course money normal cause EU peeps have to pay the double...

let gearbox help you.

let the force be with you

  • 08.01.2008 3:55 AM PDT