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Subject: We're being watched.

"Peace, gentlemen...
Peace is the ultimate goal of the Traxus Project.
Peace not in our time but in the future.
Future generations will benefit from the work begun here today.
Gentlemen, I give you the Traxus Project"

So it would seem.
But my question is just how closely?

Apparently fairly so, as it seems there have been fewer disruptive posts, and those that are there are fairly promptly locked/removed/etc.

So the hammer's coming down harder now.

May I ask just how likely it is for the average, innocuous post to be read by the powers that be? If it were not for the afformentioned evidence to the contrary I'd be tempted to doubt it, what for all the vast number of posts and such it seems like it might be somewhat difficult observe -everything- period.

For me it's like wondering if the government is recording& scrutinizing my own phone conversations along with every other U.S. citizen.Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I've always wondered just how likely it is for the eyes of Bungie to see what I submit. & just who does see it most often? The moderators, the dev staff?
Bottom line, despite the obvious evidence that devious shinanigans/outbursts are severely punished, I have personally seen little 'clear' evidence that good behaviour is seen/rewarded.
This is going to sound terrible and wrong and at least a little selfish, but what's in it for me?

I'm sorry, I'm probably rambling, but I can't help but wonder. I wish for clarity. Does anyone else?


[Edited on 02.25.2008 12:04 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2008 12:00 PM PDT

Кланяються мені!

*reads post and drools while making donkey noises*

What is your point, in present day enlish please, without the rambling

  • 02.25.2008 12:04 PM PDT

"Peace, gentlemen...
Peace is the ultimate goal of the Traxus Project.
Peace not in our time but in the future.
Future generations will benefit from the work begun here today.
Gentlemen, I give you the Traxus Project"

I'm sorry. You'll have to work with me for now.
I'm feeling rather sleep deprived at school.
Please try to understand, I'm doing my best right now. Such as it is.

[Edited on 02.25.2008 12:08 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2008 12:05 PM PDT
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The End

‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

Bottom line is who cares. The system works, never question the superior powers. You can't put a statistic on humans who are too inconsistant.

/thread

EDIT: Oh you're talking about the government. If you have nothing to hide don't worry, if you do PANIC and nibble kittens!!!!!!!

[Edited on 02.25.2008 12:34 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2008 12:21 PM PDT

Big Brother is always watching.

  • 02.25.2008 12:29 PM PDT
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What's in it for you?

Nothing, really. It's your choice to come here.

  • 02.25.2008 12:31 PM PDT

"Peace, gentlemen...
Peace is the ultimate goal of the Traxus Project.
Peace not in our time but in the future.
Future generations will benefit from the work begun here today.
Gentlemen, I give you the Traxus Project"

Posted by: TOM T 117
You can't put a statistic on humans who are too inconsistant.
/thread


Partially my point.
But unfortunately I do seem to care, as some statistics seem to have been applied.
At least in some cases(IE: member rank, recon, etc).
Believe me, I've tried time and time again to convince myself that I don't care.
It hasn't worked yet, so I thought I'd put foreward a query in the hopes that it might somehow put my mind at ease.
For all I know, I very well could be the only one who cares.
On that note, perhaps it would be suitable for this post to be moved to the off topic bbs.

So...if this post ends up locked/removed...maybe that would be the answer.
It's not intended for me to understand.
And I'd have no choice but to accept.

[Edited on 02.25.2008 12:48 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2008 12:38 PM PDT
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The End

‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

Posted by: Count Rolland
Posted by: TOM T 117
You can't put a statistic on humans who are too inconsistant.
/thread


Partially my point.
But unfortunately I do seem to care, as some statistics seem to have been applied.
At least in some cases(IE: member rank, recon, etc).
Believe me, I've tried time and time again to convince myself that I don't care.
It hasn't worked yet, so I thought I'd put foreward a query in the hopes that it might somehow put my mind at ease.
For all I know, I very well could be the only one who cares.

So...if this post ends up locked/removed...maybe that would be the answer.
It's not intended for me to understand.
And I'd have no choice but to accept.
Get a lawyer and sue life. Although make sure the lawyer isn't a secret government spy who will poison you in your sleep or maybe even tab your phone!

Gotta be really careful these days!

Seriously what are you trying to get at? This topic isn't even relevant to anything and it is in the wrong forum, it will be locked. Just calm down, there isn't anyone hiding under your bed, the only monster in your house is in the closet. Relax, if you do nothing wrong there is nothing to fear.

  • 02.25.2008 12:48 PM PDT
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And the Shadow fell upon the Land, and the World was riven stone from stone. The oceans fled, and the mountains were swallowed up, and the nations were scattered to the eight corners of the World. The moon was blood, and the sun was as ashes. The seas boiled, and the living envied the dead. All was shattered, and all but memory lost, and one memory above all others, of him who brought the Shadow and the Breaking of the World. And him they named Dragon.

People nowadays think too much. Try to just live, and accept.

  • 02.25.2008 12:55 PM PDT

"Peace, gentlemen...
Peace is the ultimate goal of the Traxus Project.
Peace not in our time but in the future.
Future generations will benefit from the work begun here today.
Gentlemen, I give you the Traxus Project"

Posted by: Qbix89
People nowadays think too much. Try to just live, and accept.


Ironic. I seem to remember posting similarly in response to the past "Why, Bungie?" queries of others.
Just a thought.(thinking too much?)
Maybe I've finally become bitter myself.

[Edited on 02.25.2008 1:03 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2008 1:01 PM PDT

» Sincerely, Dan

Ah, paranoia. I love it.

  • 02.25.2008 1:11 PM PDT

My signature changes too often!

I remember seeing an online article that now the government is now trying to minimalize virtual violence too by monitoring our onlne play :S

  • 02.25.2008 1:14 PM PDT

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  • 02.25.2008 1:15 PM PDT

"Peace, gentlemen...
Peace is the ultimate goal of the Traxus Project.
Peace not in our time but in the future.
Future generations will benefit from the work begun here today.
Gentlemen, I give you the Traxus Project"

please pay attention.

Some people based apparently on marit have/will receive, and I hate to say it, recon.
Or member rank increase.
A simplified explanation based on my understanding. Without disclaimers.

In my case, it's been eating at me long enough to become uncomfortable.
I'm sorry if that annoys you.
That be the case, it shouldn't be long before the thread is locked.

[Edited on 02.25.2008 1:20 PM PST]

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I agree with the fact that we are being watched but i think it's a good thing.
I say that because the mods and B employees seem to be the only ones to clearly understand the rules of the forums as well as what's allowed and what goes where.
So by watching us they ensure this community is clean and fun for all but at the same time by letting us know we are being watched it encourages us to watch ourselves so they don't have to. You have to remember it's not easy to go through millions of posts (hence the report botton). As far as the question of how closely, well i think i would have to say as close as their time allows them to (you have to remember that these guys are volunteers).

So if you don't want to be paranoid, simply re check the stickies they've made for us or look for hot topics.

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To be honest I feel the same way you do. However I do not feel that the "powers at be" are actually monitoring Bungie.net or XBOX Live for that matter. I believe our rights as citizens have diminished because of the patriot act I and II, there is a consequence for every action.


VOTE RON PAUL 2008.....or Nader if he runs.


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think too much???? Wow never thought someone would actually say that about being critical of "the system" the reason people just "accept" their fate as consumers is because they detached themselves from the process, being apathetic is no excuse. Soon you will fall into the slumber of affluenza, a sick consumer based disorder.

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And the Shadow fell upon the Land, and the World was riven stone from stone. The oceans fled, and the mountains were swallowed up, and the nations were scattered to the eight corners of the World. The moon was blood, and the sun was as ashes. The seas boiled, and the living envied the dead. All was shattered, and all but memory lost, and one memory above all others, of him who brought the Shadow and the Breaking of the World. And him they named Dragon.

It is Bungie.net we are talking about here?

EDIT: Typo.

[Edited on 02.25.2008 1:44 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2008 1:41 PM PDT

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Are you saying there's some conspiracy theory that the good members are suddenly going to get Recon because you had some strange feeling in the back of your mind about it?

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Hahahaha...

  • 02.25.2008 1:45 PM PDT
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And the Shadow fell upon the Land, and the World was riven stone from stone. The oceans fled, and the mountains were swallowed up, and the nations were scattered to the eight corners of the World. The moon was blood, and the sun was as ashes. The seas boiled, and the living envied the dead. All was shattered, and all but memory lost, and one memory above all others, of him who brought the Shadow and the Breaking of the World. And him they named Dragon.

Keep an eye out Zag. They're coming for you...

  • 02.25.2008 1:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Qbix89
Keep an eye out Zag. They're coming for you...


Here is one.

[Edited on 02.25.2008 1:58 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2008 1:58 PM PDT

"Peace, gentlemen...
Peace is the ultimate goal of the Traxus Project.
Peace not in our time but in the future.
Future generations will benefit from the work begun here today.
Gentlemen, I give you the Traxus Project"

Posted by: TRON MASTER2008
I do not feel that the "powers at be" are actually monitoring Bungie.net or XBOX Live for that matter. I believe our rights as citizens have diminished because of the patriot act I and II,


Indeed, and neither do I. But that wasn't what I was intending to imply.
By 'powers that be', I was referring to the forum moderators and any others among the devs that might have particular pull in such decisions as whether to ban posting and lock or move threads, or alternatively, promote member rank and (most questionably) assign recon.

Maybe I just don't believe it's feaseable or particularly fair to dole out something as highly sought after as recon armor on a basis of merit unless they intend to pass it out to literally every other tom, dick, or harry that has a clean record.
But that can't be right can it? They don't really do that do they?
I realize this subject has been discussed into the ground countless times before, but I would really hope that it'd be something bigger than simply 'being good and hoping to get one's name drawn out of the gorilla hat.'

Perhaps what might satisfy some people would be a list of past recipients and by what basis was it awarded. I don't know. I'm sure i'm wrong somehow...
I would hope they at least bother to tell those who do recieve it just why they were chosen out of the multitudes. I wish it could be so with member rank as well, but that would hardly be possible. It'd take too much time.
But , oh, to be an all knowing forum mod. All the mysteries revealed. The knowlege of, step by step, how most such rewards& punishments might be dealt. To know the system.
But at the end of it all, if I were to somehow become a mod myself, I'd likely just discover that I really was just overthinking it all along and nothing more. That there is no 'system' and it's all pretty much chosen at random. Well, so long as you aren't some obnoxious troll that is.
I guess I was just hoping it was something more...structured than that.

Oh great, I did it again. Sry for the rant.

[Edited on 02.25.2008 2:26 PM PST]

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Posted by: Zee JollyRoger
Posted by: Qbix89
Keep an eye out Zag. They're coming for you...


Here is one.


Hehehehehehehee.....

  • 02.25.2008 2:02 PM PDT
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And the Shadow fell upon the Land, and the World was riven stone from stone. The oceans fled, and the mountains were swallowed up, and the nations were scattered to the eight corners of the World. The moon was blood, and the sun was as ashes. The seas boiled, and the living envied the dead. All was shattered, and all but memory lost, and one memory above all others, of him who brought the Shadow and the Breaking of the World. And him they named Dragon.

Posted by: Zee JollyRoger
Here is one.

Is that Zag?

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