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ARBITER, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER!!! WORT WORT WORT.

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. Bungie has stated they're fair game

Where.

  • 03.23.2008 2:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: N1netyproof
I've noticed that button glitches are one of the things people use to bash Halo 2. Another thing I've noticed is that the people who say this are the people who never could pull them off correctly. Combos were something that separated the pros from the noobs. It wasn't whoever-shot-whoever-first-wins, like in Halo 3. You can still out-BR them with double shots, or use a BXR, BXB, or anything. It added much more intensity to the game.

Anybody who disagrees with me is obviously somebody who got beaten by them. If you could ever actually use them, or seen how they played, you would notice they were by far the best thing to happen to Halo.

Hopefully Bungie will add some in an auto-update to Halo 3, and fix it from being the noob-friendly scum it is. They've entirely removed everything that required skill in the game in favour for balance for new players.
Err... no, I happly went up to a 34 without using glitches at all. They're glitches, they're not supposed to be there, people abuse them to have an advantage.

If you love your glitches so much stay with Halo 2, Halo 3 is fine the way it is.

  • 03.23.2008 3:23 PM PDT

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They should just say in the instructions that pressing X during a reload cancels the reload. Simple enough. Why shouldn't you be able to cancel a reload? What if someone is touching you and you are stuck in a reload animation? A reload cancel makes all the sense in the world.

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Posted by: N1netyproof
I've noticed that button glitches are one of the things people use to bash Halo 2. Another thing I've noticed is that the people who say this are the people who never could pull them off correctly. Combos were something that separated the pros from the noobs. It wasn't whoever-shot-whoever-first-wins, like in Halo 3. You can still out-BR them with double shots, or use a BXR, BXB, or anything. It added much more intensity to the game.

Anybody who disagrees with me is obviously somebody who got beaten by them. If you could ever actually use them, or seen how they played, you would notice they were by far the best thing to happen to Halo.

Hopefully Bungie will add some in an auto-update to Halo 3, and fix it from being the noob-friendly scum it is. They've entirely removed everything that required skill in the game in favour for balance for new players.
Err... no, I happly went up to a 34 without using glitches at all. They're glitches, they're not supposed to be there, people abuse them to have an advantage.

If you love your glitches so much stay with Halo 2, Halo 3 is fine the way it is.


Penicillin was discovered by accident. They didn't intend to make it. So you must not use it, right?

Because something is accidental doesn't mean it can't be influential and useful.

  • 03.23.2008 9:03 PM PDT

Does anyone even read these?

Well reflexes is the one thing you need to be good at halo. It is the one thing that Halo 3 is lacking.

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Posted by: Rambo IIII
They should just say in the instructions that pressing X during a reload cancels the reload. Simple enough. Why shouldn't you be able to cancel a reload? What if someone is touching you and you are stuck in a reload animation? A reload cancel makes all the sense in the world.

WTF? So if I press X to start a reload on a half empty clip and X again I should end up with the half ammo I started with? Are we playing the same game?

X cancels animations not reloads. Try explaining that in the manual.

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Carrots.

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Posted by: Yuke
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I've noticed that button glitches are one of the things people use to bash Halo 2. Another thing I've noticed is that the people who say this are the people who never could pull them off correctly. Combos were something that separated the pros from the noobs. It wasn't whoever-shot-whoever-first-wins, like in Halo 3. You can still out-BR them with double shots, or use a BXR, BXB, or anything. It added much more intensity to the game.

Anybody who disagrees with me is obviously somebody who got beaten by them. If you could ever actually use them, or seen how they played, you would notice they were by far the best thing to happen to Halo.

Hopefully Bungie will add some in an auto-update to Halo 3, and fix it from being the noob-friendly scum it is. They've entirely removed everything that required skill in the game in favour for balance for new players.
Err... no, I happly went up to a 34 without using glitches at all. They're glitches, they're not supposed to be there, people abuse them to have an advantage.

If you love your glitches so much stay with Halo 2, Halo 3 is fine the way it is.


Penicillin was discovered by accident. They didn't intend to make it. So you must not use it, right?

Because something is accidental doesn't mean it can't be influential and useful.

Yeah, because Halo 2 cures sicknesses and is beneficial to our lives, right?

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Posted by: Rambo IIII
They should just say in the instructions that pressing X during a reload cancels the reload. Simple enough. Why shouldn't you be able to cancel a reload? What if someone is touching you and you are stuck in a reload animation? A reload cancel makes all the sense in the world.


Heh i just use Y,Y to cancel a reload, or i throw a nade :)

  • 03.24.2008 10:46 AM PDT

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This apple is brown, and rotten. This orange on the other hand, is in relatively average shape. So the orange is definitely the preferable option.
----------You can't compare apples and oranges. You're so dumb.

Halo 3 is "noobified"?


So wait, less auto aim, less bullet magnetism, less spawn killing, less honing on PP , a spawn weapon that gives you a decent chance, a shorter sword lunge, smaller blast radiuses from grenades and rockets all translate to the game being noobified?

The game is slightly slower in pace, that doesn't make the game more noob friendly. By that logic UT is the most noob unfriendly game every concieved. And rainbow six is the most noob friendly game ever created. The fact is, the faster the gameplay the more its about reaction times. The slower the gameplay the more its about tactics. Halo has always been inbetween. Not fast like UT, not slow like rainbow six. A game where reflexes and tactics are both fundamentally important. The changing of pace does not correspond with an increase or decrease in potential skill needed to do well in the game.

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The only people complaining about the button glitches are people who can't do them?----


Some people never even tried to learn them, because they were, infact cheating. So they are now automatically noobs? A few people on this thread, and in every thread on this board back in the day there were multiple people who achknowledged using them, but also stated they only did it because they were in a disadvantage if they didn't. And that they realize it fundamentally breaks the game. And they are glad that its gone/ would be glad if they were gone.

I mean, looking at some of the arguements they are all stupid. Pressing three buttons and forcing your enemy into a position he cannot counter does not take skill. Defeating a player within the games design, so that the enemy has a chance to react takes skill. Even if you wanted to argue the button glitches were hard to use( they weren't), thats not the same as saying they took skill. A lot of things, weither in games or just general are hard to do. But they take absolutely no skill.


One idiot in particular stated that the combo was used to counter unfair advantages. He cited "getting shot first" as an unfair disadvantage.

So wait, I react before you, or I am being more aware of my surroundings, so I end up shoot you first and thats an unfair advantage? Or you run out like a dolt, and I shoot you, and thats an unfair advantage? But if you retreat when your about to die, then cheat as soon as I turn the corner , forcing me into a position I cannot to react to, thats skill?

I gain an advantage within the games design, by playing better or smarter then you. And you counter by running away and then cheating? And some how what I did was an unfair advantage, and what you did was skillful. Give me a f-ing break.

Throw a bloody grenade at the guys feet and follow through with a headshot. That way he has a chance to react, and your not cheating. Wait you won't? Because theres a chance he will react and kill you? Because lets be honest, most of you button combo supports were probably just thinking that. You use the combo because it gives you an advantage. It counters your inability to handle certain situations within the games design. Plain and simple. You can disguise it any way you want in your arguements or in your mind. But you use the combo to counter your own inability to handle certain situations within the games design.

In Halo 3 you don't win because you shoot first. Because theres no longer a massive amount of auto aim and bullet magnetism. I kill people who begin shooting me first all the time. But keep in mind, if some one shoots you first, they will probably win. Thats the way it should be. You should expect an uphill battle, if they were being more aware of their surroundings or reacted faster. Back into cover, get your shields up and try again.

The truth is, just like we predicted prior to Halo 3. All of the noobs, who thought they were pro complain now that the playing field is leveled. They kept owning people who didn't want to cheat, or didn't want to learn how to cheat. By forcing them into a positions they couldn't react to. And decieved them selves into thinking they were crazy good. They teabag'd, they talked trash. And now many of them (not all of them) can't adapt to Halo 3. They just can't get over there own inability to over come within the games design.


Keep running out in the open without paying attention to your surroundings. Keep reacting slower then your enemies. And then keep complaining that the game is noobified because you can no longer counter act other peoples skill and tactics by using a gltich to force them into a situation they can't react to.

I just wish Bungie would start making better maps, make it harder to rank up in Halo 3 and add clans . Because then Halo 3s MP would be better in every single way.

To the people saying the button combos were added, they were not. they were always there, they only became important when the melee strength was increased. The sword cancel was actually the same gltich as the button combos. The sword cancel was always present. Pressing the X button cancels a previous animation, but causes the result of the animation to still come into effect. So I can melee, press X canceling the melee animation, and then melee a second time. Allowing me to melee twice, much faster then the game was designed to allow me.



Anyways, I don't think button combos were the best thing to happen to Halo, they were closer to being the worst. Ruined the games balance, that was terrible enough without the glitch. Spawned a bunch of noobs that thought they were pros. Because they button combo'd people who had no intention of cheating. They really screwed up the game.

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  • 03.24.2008 11:41 AM PDT

I love this poster and how much trash he talks about halo 3 players... i wonder, are you just angry that now that the glitches are gone you suck at the game? Cry me a river. Dont play halo 3, nobody wants you.

  • 03.24.2008 2:13 PM PDT

I also love how he doest reply to any of the intelligent posters. No way to back up your opinion?

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No, anyone who disagrees with you actually has an IQ above 25.

If you don't understand the premise of the word 'glitch' and 'cheating,' I don't expect you to succeed in life. It's a good thing you poor sac whacking nubtards haven't moved on to Halo 3. It's a better place without you.


One word to say to that, amen.

This is true, halo 3 is a haven without the little 5 year old redneck and his newly bought macro/ turbo controller. The problem is your ideal of a pro is completely wrong. One guy is a lvl 25 and he wiped out a whole party of 31+ who used the reload glitch, bxr and quad shot, and all he used was a sniper and BR. (and he used the sniper to get 9 kills out of 50).

Button glitches are very annoying, dont tell me you think some little kid who programs his controler to macro so everytime he hits the right trigger he get instant quadshot is a pro. BxR and BxB are the only button combos almost anyone can use. luckily for me i just have to wait for them to run out of ammo and snipe them in the head.

[Edited on 03.24.2008 6:32 PM PDT]

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One word to say to that, amen.

This is true, halo 3 is a haven without the little 5 year old redneck and his newly bought macro/ turbo controller. The problem is your ideal of a pro is completely wrong. One guy is a lvl 25 and he wiped out a whole party of 31+ who used the reload glitch, bxr and quad shot, and all he used was a sniper and BR. (and he used the sniper to get 9 kills out of 50).

Button glitches are very annoying, dont tell me you think some little kid who programs his controler to macro so everytime he hits the right trigger he get instant quadshot is a pro. BxR and BxB are the only button combos almost anyone can use. luckily for me i just have to wait for them to run out of ammo and snipe them in the head.

Most (I haven't read every post) of the people who are pro-combo do not consider everyone who uses/used the combos to be "pro". If I remember correctly, the anti-combo users brought pro into this debate, but that's beside the point.

The combos upped the game to another level. In the competitive aspect, the game became much more deep due to the level of both skill and dexterity needed to pull some of the combos off while aiming, moving, jumping, etc. In the causal aspect, it did one of two things:

A) Did absolutely nothing due to the fact that people didn't know or care about using them.
B) Let players use modified controllers as you stated, thereby ruining the game for those who just wanted to play casually.

MLG separated the two groups, and without that separation, MM would have died due to more causal players quitting out of frustration. Sure there are the posers/wannabees who seem to ruin the reputation for the whole group, and the same goes for casual players, but there's no avoiding a little kid saying he's "pro" while using his modified controller in a MM game short of removal of the combos.

MLG allowed the combos because having a team disqualified just because of an accidental button mash really doesn't work out for competitive gameplay. They barred any modified controllers (except a few cases of swapped thumbsticks), and let those who were good enough shine.

Bungie didn't really have that luxury and decided to make them "illegal" in Matchmaking.
They either had to get rid of the melee damage and auto aim boosts or spend countless hours trying to fix the glitches without creating new ones to replace them.

You shouldn't base your assumption of a group of people based on the actions of one person.
Otherwise, all Germans would be -blam!-s, all Jews would be cheap, all Asians would be terrible drivers, and every other stereotype you could think of.

Just get it through your heads people: the combos were both unintended and left unfixed.
Neither group is 100% right. If you want to debate, then don't bring up "that one little mlg poser kid who had the modded controller" or any other stereotypical person you've come across.

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That long anti-combo speech/rant really summed up anything I could say, but I love it when people say button combos make the game more deep.

"In the competitive aspect, the game became much more deep due to the level of both skill and dexterity needed to pull some of the combos off while aiming, moving, jumping, etc. In the causal aspect, it did one of two things"

How is the ability to press buttons really fast make a game deep ? That's ridiculous. Strategy, weapons, and level design make a game deep because they force someone to make a choice of where to go and whether or not it's a good idea. Fast fingers is nothing like that.

Also the claim that Halo 3 sucks because whoever shoots first wins is ridiculous. If I sneak up on you, crouching if needed, or if you run into the middle of the map like and idiot, does that mean you should get an equal chance to kill me if I attack you first? I'll leave you to answer that question.

But of course, the only reason we complain is because we all have arthritis and can't do the things ourselves. We always get mad at those pros and their button combos and are just spewing are senseless rage into this forum because we can't deal with our anger. If we just used button-combos, everything would be better and we would see the error of our ways.

Right?

Also, I do not think that Halo 3 beat Halo 2, but if they start releasing really fantastic maps on DLC, I might change my mind...

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  • 03.25.2008 6:07 AM PDT
Subject: Button Combos Weren't The Best Thing to Happen to Halo
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ARBITER, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER!!! WORT WORT WORT.

If you want to button combo, go play Mortal Kombat. This is Halo.

  • 03.25.2008 1:55 PM PDT
Subject: Button Combos Were The Best Thing to Happen to Halo
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Ok, I like halo 3, but it does get annoying when I get shot by someone from behind me, and i can't do anything about it except hope they suck... In halo 2 the button combos added options and depth to the game. As for all you Halo 3 "fan boys" you don't have to play halo 2, if you don't want to get comboed. You can go and play your slow paced, "noob-freindly" game. You guys can use the excuse that aim assist has gone down, and sniping is harder all day, but we are going to use the fact that you were not good enough to get even a 25 in halo 2 so you had to go and get your 50 in halo 3. Theres nothing wrong with getting a 50 in halo 3, but theres nothing wrong with using what bungie gave us in a game to get out of a tight spot doesn't matter if it is a glitch or not.

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You know why some people can't get over a 25? (Hint: It's the topic of this forum.)

This whole he-who-shoots-first-wins is bad argument is starting to make me a tad mad. If you stand in the middle of the map, you are not invincible, nor should you be. You are just stupid. Stay unseen, get your enemy first, and win. Besides, even if you do get shot first, usually it isn't just the end for you. Throw grenade at your feet and turn and shoot like crazy, and your odds are pretty good. If its long range, just find some cover which has been provided almost everywhere in these new maps.. If there is no cover, it is totally your fault .

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Well, judging by the fact that your a colonel you've obviously played halo 3 your fair share.
Bungie officially stated button GLITCHES were cheating. I don't have a problem with BXR or BXB
or double/quad shotting, but get your facts straight -blam!-.

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Posted by: Rafiez
i hope you still read this stupid thread of yours

Wy dident bungie fix the button glitches?

stupid stupid you... they cant the buttons ar on the disc

and wtf ar you saying who doesent like like halo 2 couldent double shot BXB BXR

ok i couldnt and i didnet want to wy would i
it sucks it ar gliches that arent ment to be in the game
and i still rocked in Halo 2 i could pwn 3v1

and you say H3 = first shot is win
man you must suck in H3
if some1 shoots first at you jsut trow a nade and br his head or stuck him or shoto at him
tadaaa you win (you brobaly cant do it but ok)

you only like H2 more then H3 couse you can chjeat in it and think your actualy good in the game but H2 is for noobs think this if its easier to kill someone its harder to kill a second one so it requars more skills

over and out me :D


Are you five?

  • 03.26.2008 7:14 AM PDT

Posted by: PoorVash
Bungie officially stated button GLITCHES were cheating.


Let's start with you and everyone else who has posted the same thing, Bungie has never "Officially" stated that button glitches were cheating. The only person to make a statement on the topic was Achronos, and it is more likely that he stated it just to stop these stupid arguments. Did Bungie take them out in Halo 3? Sorta. Because they took it out does it mean they are cheats? No, it is called a glitch for a reason. It means the game is broken so all they did was fix it.

Now the Pro-combo posters and Nay-combo users alike, button glitches have been a staple of Halo since Combat Evolved so please stop referencing Halo 2 as the beginning of all things glitch. When Halo: CE was still around the ones that excelled at tournaments were the ones that knew how to time weapons, double-melee, back pack reload and back pack the OS and Camo. Did Bungie have a problem with it then? No. Why? Because they didn't have 30,000 kids screaming at them over the internet. What they did have were thousands of kids that were content with what they had and adapted to the style of play.

Do the combos add more depth? Yes. How? Easy they add more choices in gameplay meaning bear with me now more depth. Any other game adds depth by adding weapons, characters, and/or vehicles creating more choices. Everyone else has stated that it doesn't add depth but haven't given a reason as to why.

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So wait, I react before you, or I am being more aware of my surroundings, so I end up shoot you first and thats an unfair advantage? Or you run out like a dolt, and I shoot you, and thats an unfair advantage? But if you retreat when your about to die, then cheat as soon as I turn the corner , forcing me into a position I cannot to react to, thats skill?


As for you, well you contradicted yourself. You go on about how you shouldn't put yourself into certain situations then complain about chasing someone around the corner and getting BXR'd. You have no one to blame but yourself for chasing someone around the corner in the first place. Oh and BTW how do you counter a BXR? It's real simple, react faster.

Posted by: # GezaB
Yeah, because Halo 2 cures sicknesses and is beneficial to our lives, right?


This statement did nothing to counter his argument.

Posted by:coherantace
also by the same token if your ok with pepole bxring you then why do you get all butt hurt when i super bounce on top of crane with a sniper and go on a running riot?


1. If all you get from SB is a Running Riot you are bad.
2. People get butt hurt because when they attempt to kill you you leave the level of play where no one or thing can touch you.

In conclusion
You are not pro if you use them and you are not pro if you don't
and at the same time
You are not a noob if you use them and and not a noob if you don't.

Granted,

Posted by:Ben Affleck
The Internet is a communication tool used the world over where people can come together to -blam!- about movies, games and share -blam!- with one another.


but these baseless arguments are getting out of hand.

Come on guys get over yourselves.

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  • 03.27.2008 12:28 AM PDT

Beware Qbix89! That master ninja will lay the smackdown on your troll thread!

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Cheating and glitches only apply to matchmaking and are fair in customs, the scope of this discussion.[/quote]
^^^^^^^^^^^^
it took you this long to say this!!!! if you start a discussion about something, make sure you iron out the details before you start a discussion. trust me, i read all of your posts and this is the first one saying whether it is in customs or in MM. you pretty much just started off saying button combos were awesome and you suck if you think otherwise.

When you make a thread, you can define or change the scope whenever you like.

its a better idea to point out the scope of the thread at the start. its better management.

  • 03.28.2008 7:06 AM PDT

Beware Qbix89! That master ninja will lay the smackdown on your troll thread!

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Posted by: Rambo IIII
They should just say in the instructions that pressing X during a reload cancels the reload. Simple enough. Why shouldn't you be able to cancel a reload? What if someone is touching you and you are stuck in a reload animation? A reload cancel makes all the sense in the world.

melee or swap weapons quickly to cancel a reload

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Bx(crouch)R is the best. Gets the other guy annoyed =]

  • 03.28.2008 6:31 PM PDT

Beware Qbix89! That master ninja will lay the smackdown on your troll thread!

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Posted by: ghostvirus
Halo 3 is "noobified"?


So wait, less auto aim, less bullet magnetism, less spawn killing, less honing on PP , a spawn weapon that gives you a decent chance, a shorter sword lunge, smaller blast radiuses from grenades and rockets all translate to the game being noobified?

The game is slightly slower in pace, that doesn't make the game more noob friendly. By that logic UT is the most noob unfriendly game every concieved. And rainbow six is the most noob friendly game ever created. The fact is, the faster the gameplay the more its about reaction times. The slower the gameplay the more its about tactics. Halo has always been inbetween. Not fast like UT, not slow like rainbow six. A game where reflexes and tactics are both fundamentally important. The changing of pace does not correspond with an increase or decrease in potential skill needed to do well in the game.

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The only people complaining about the button glitches are people who can't do them?----


Some people never even tried to learn them, because they were, infact cheating. So they are now automatically noobs? A few people on this thread, and in every thread on this board back in the day there were multiple people who achknowledged using them, but also stated they only did it because they were in a disadvantage if they didn't. And that they realize it fundamentally breaks the game. And they are glad that its gone/ would be glad if they were gone.

I mean, looking at some of the arguements they are all stupid. Pressing three buttons and forcing your enemy into a position he cannot counter does not take skill. Defeating a player within the games design, so that the enemy has a chance to react takes skill. Even if you wanted to argue the button glitches were hard to use( they weren't), thats not the same as saying they took skill. A lot of things, weither in games or just general are hard to do. But they take absolutely no skill.


One idiot in particular stated that the combo was used to counter unfair advantages. He cited "getting shot first" as an unfair disadvantage.

So wait, I react before you, or I am being more aware of my surroundings, so I end up shoot you first and thats an unfair advantage? Or you run out like a dolt, and I shoot you, and thats an unfair advantage? But if you retreat when your about to die, then cheat as soon as I turn the corner , forcing me into a position I cannot to react to, thats skill?

I gain an advantage within the games design, by playing better or smarter then you. And you counter by running away and then cheating? And some how what I did was an unfair advantage, and what you did was skillful. Give me a f-ing break.

Throw a bloody grenade at the guys feet and follow through with a headshot. That way he has a chance to react, and your not cheating. Wait you won't? Because theres a chance he will react and kill you? Because lets be honest, most of you button combo supports were probably just thinking that. You use the combo because it gives you an advantage. It counters your inability to handle certain situations within the games design. Plain and simple. You can disguise it any way you want in your arguements or in your mind. But you use the combo to counter your own inability to handle certain situations within the games design.

In Halo 3 you don't win because you shoot first. Because theres no longer a massive amount of auto aim and bullet magnetism. I kill people who begin shooting me first all the time. But keep in mind, if some one shoots you first, they will probably win. Thats the way it should be. You should expect an uphill battle, if they were being more aware of their surroundings or reacted faster. Back into cover, get your shields up and try again.

The truth is, just like we predicted prior to Halo 3. All of the noobs, who thought they were pro complain now that the playing field is leveled. They kept owning people who didn't want to cheat, or didn't want to learn how to cheat. By forcing them into a positions they couldn't react to. And decieved them selves into thinking they were crazy good. They teabag'd, they talked trash. And now many of them (not all of them) can't adapt to Halo 3. They just can't get over there own inability to over come within the games design.


Keep running out in the open without paying attention to your surroundings. Keep reacting slower then your enemies. And then keep complaining that the game is noobified because you can no longer counter act other peoples skill and tactics by using a gltich to force them into a situation they can't react to.

I just wish Bungie would start making better maps, make it harder to rank up in Halo 3 and add clans . Because then Halo 3s MP would be better in every single way.

To the people saying the button combos were added, they were not. they were always there, they only became important when the melee strength was increased. The sword cancel was actually the same gltich as the button combos. The sword cancel was always present. Pressing the X button cancels a previous animation, but causes the result of the animation to still come into effect. So I can melee, press X canceling the melee animation, and then melee a second time. Allowing me to melee twice, much faster then the game was designed to allow me.



Anyways, I don't think button combos were the best thing to happen to Halo, they were closer to being the worst. Ruined the games balance, that was terrible enough without the glitch. Spawned a bunch of noobs that thought they were pros. Because they button combo'd people who had no intention of cheating. They really screwed up the game.

u r my hero ^_^

  • 03.31.2008 7:12 AM PDT

Beware Qbix89! That master ninja will lay the smackdown on your troll thread!

Spiderstosh, Spiderstosh...does whatever a Spiderstosh does. Breaks the interwebs in his prime...guess who is....to blame this time? Spiderstosh...it is the Spiderstoooosh. -SonicJohn

Posted by: Xtreem Ikon
Posted by: PoorVash
Bungie officially stated button GLITCHES were cheating.


Let's start with you and everyone else who has posted the same thing, Bungie has never "Officially" stated that button glitches were cheating. The only person to make a statement on the topic was Achronos, and it is more likely that he stated it just to stop these stupid arguments. Did Bungie take them out in Halo 3? Sorta. Because they took it out does it mean they are cheats? No, it is called a glitch for a reason. It means the game is broken so all they did was fix it.

Now the Pro-combo posters and Nay-combo users alike, button glitches have been a staple of Halo since Combat Evolved so please stop referencing Halo 2 as the beginning of all things glitch. When Halo: CE was still around the ones that excelled at tournaments were the ones that knew how to time weapons, double-melee, back pack reload and back pack the OS and Camo. Did Bungie have a problem with it then? No. Why? Because they didn't have 30,000 kids screaming at them over the internet. What they did have were thousands of kids that were content with what they had and adapted to the style of play.

Do the combos add more depth? Yes. How? Easy they add more choices in gameplay meaning bear with me now more depth. Any other game adds depth by adding weapons, characters, and/or vehicles creating more choices. Everyone else has stated that it doesn't add depth but haven't given a reason as to why.

Posted by: Ghostvirus
So wait, I react before you, or I am being more aware of my surroundings, so I end up shoot you first and thats an unfair advantage? Or you run out like a dolt, and I shoot you, and thats an unfair advantage? But if you retreat when your about to die, then cheat as soon as I turn the corner , forcing me into a position I cannot to react to, thats skill?


As for you, well you contradicted yourself. You go on about how you shouldn't put yourself into certain situations then complain about chasing someone around the corner and getting BXR'd. You have no one to blame but yourself for chasing someone around the corner in the first place. Oh and BTW how do you counter a BXR? It's real simple, react faster.

Posted by: # GezaB
Yeah, because Halo 2 cures sicknesses and is beneficial to our lives, right?


This statement did nothing to counter his argument.

Posted by:coherantace
also by the same token if your ok with pepole bxring you then why do you get all butt hurt when i super bounce on top of crane with a sniper and go on a running riot?


1. If all you get from SB is a Running Riot you are bad.
2. People get butt hurt because when they attempt to kill you you leave the level of play where no one or thing can touch you.

In conclusion
You are not pro if you use them and you are not pro if you don't
and at the same time
You are not a noob if you use them and and not a noob if you don't.

Granted,

Posted by:Ben Affleck
The Internet is a communication tool used the world over where people can come together to -blam!- about movies, games and share -blam!- with one another.


but these baseless arguments are getting out of hand.

Come on guys get over yourselves.

u r sorta my hero... :/

  • 03.31.2008 7:18 AM PDT