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Twelve Large ²

An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

Big deal.. Grunts stand 5ft tall and Marines stand what? 5-6ft? Both have same size head, and both can duck, roll, and dive. I've never seen a Grunt jump, though. And they can't run for -blam!-, but I know they can kick some ass.. I've seen it! Grunts own you all the time, Ash.. Admit it.

  • 06.17.2004 7:26 AM PDT

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Ermm..maybe you dont get the point of my post 12large. And grunts dont own me...

  • 06.17.2004 7:38 AM PDT

Twelve Large ²

An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

Well, they own me.. Damn Grunts.. If they were human controlled, I don't know what I'd do..
:p

  • 06.17.2004 8:02 AM PDT
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no, u guys are forgetting what made halo great, it would be so stupid with all those different chracters, i think theyre traveling on close borders by putting elites in ONE mp mode, the bots would be ok but not as odsts imo, it just takes away from what multiplayer was in halo ad should be in halo 2.

ditto!! Plut0

I'm still a little skeptical about them throwing the elites in there.

  • 06.17.2004 8:06 AM PDT
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No the prophet is not a good idea b/c it would be like one of 2nd rate free style racing games that arent that good. but maybe halo 2 will have mini games like prophet racing or something

  • 06.17.2004 8:09 AM PDT

Twelve Large ²

An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

I'm glad Pluto knows what made Halo GRRRREAT! Maybe we could call this new game Halo 1.1?

  • 06.17.2004 8:14 AM PDT

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Posted by: focused7
no, u guys are forgetting what made halo great, it would be so stupid with all those different chracters, i think theyre traveling on close borders by putting elites in ONE mp mode, the bots would be ok but not as odsts imo, it just takes away from what multiplayer was in halo ad should be in halo 2.

ditto!! Plut0

I'm still a little skeptical about them throwing the elites in there.


yes Other covies in multiplayer would be a very very bad idea. But I think elites are great as multiplayer skins because they are so much like spartans. It also makes sense to have Spartans vs. Elites becuase why would spartans try to kill each other????

  • 06.17.2004 8:15 AM PDT

Twelve Large ²

An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

Spartans killed each other because the original multiplayer mode sucked so bad.. Duh.

The boringness of it drove them to the point of insanity.

[Edited on 6/17/2004 8:16:43 AM]

  • 06.17.2004 8:16 AM PDT

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The halo multiplayer was brilliant you blasphemous retard! LOL j/k about that but Halo Multiplayer was great. Im guessing the story of multiplayer is similar to that of redvs.blue.

  • 06.17.2004 8:19 AM PDT
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[color=gold] i very strongly beleive it should only be eleits and spartans. because then people would find a favorite character and would only play as that character, a jackle is deffinetly worse then a spartan or eleit so if some one chose that character they would be destroyed. as for grunt i won't even start, brutes do not have energy sheilding and that elimiates the use of most plasma weapons, because plasma is better on energy sheilds then armor. hunters would be excelent spawn campers and people would get mad. prophets those chair shooting things would suck how manuverable do you think they are and one shot to the head and he goes down. keep it only eleits vs spartans[/color]

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  • 06.17.2004 8:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: HTES
yea but then you could add in brutes and ODSTs


We know nothing about brutes and from the look they are stronger and ODST's are the weakest.

  • 06.17.2004 8:52 AM PDT
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Can someone tell me what ODST stands for?

  • 06.17.2004 9:02 AM PDT
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orbital drop shock trooper

  • 06.17.2004 9:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: ash55
No! No! No! No! NO!!! Spartans vs. Elites.

Eites: Same height as spartans
Same head size as spartans
Same shape as spartans
Also have same energy shields
Can jump the same height
Basically spartans covenant equivelant

To add any other covie or human into multiplayer mode will just unbalance the crap out of it! Grunts are smaller targets, theyre slower, they dont have shields and its harder to get head shots coz theyre so low down. Same goes for any other covenant and marine. Its just unbalanced so NO!


They are not the same height, Elites are taller
They are not the smae shape, Spartans are more slender and short
They don't have the same shielding, Spartans recharge quicker and are weaker
Jump the same height? Bull. Elites should jump higher with the way their legs are shaped
Spartans are not Elite equivalents. They are weaker without armor and are just a tad slower. The only difference and leverage a Spartan has is that they are smarter and more innovtive than an Elite.

As for the others. It would not unbalance it. You'd just have to put a cap on the number of more badass units is all. Plus it would be a specific mode, not every battle could have them.

I don't know why you people are -blam!-ing about having more options in MP. If anything we should have more.

More = Good

  • 06.17.2004 9:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: ash55
Ermm..maybe you dont get the point of my post 12large. And grunts dont own me...


Get them in good numbers on legendary and with the new imporved AI in Halo 2 they will.

  • 06.17.2004 9:47 AM PDT

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Posted by: Hikaru 119
Posted by: ash55
No! No! No! No! NO!!! Spartans vs. Elites.

Eites: Same height as spartans
Same head size as spartans
Same shape as spartans
Also have same energy shields
Can jump the same height
Basically spartans covenant equivelant

To add any other covie or human into multiplayer mode will just unbalance the crap out of it! Grunts are smaller targets, theyre slower, they dont have shields and its harder to get head shots coz theyre so low down. Same goes for any other covenant and marine. Its just unbalanced so NO!


They are not the same height, Elites are taller
They are not the smae shape, Spartans are more slender and short
They don't have the same shielding, Spartans recharge quicker and are weaker
Jump the same height? Bull. Elites should jump higher with the way their legs are shaped
Spartans are not Elite equivalents. They are weaker without armor and are just a tad slower. The only difference and leverage a Spartan has is that they are smarter and more innovtive than an Elite.

As for the others. It would not unbalance it. You'd just have to put a cap on the number of more badass units is all. Plus it would be a specific mode, not every battle could have them.

I don't know why you people are -blam!-ing about having more options in MP. If anything we should have more.

More = Good


Ermm in Halo2 The elites are basically the same as spartans to balance the multiplayer. Trust me.

  • 06.17.2004 9:49 AM PDT
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i would say spartans and brutes are a match and ODST's and elites are a match so you should be able to use those 4 in multiplayer

  • 06.17.2004 9:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: ash55
Trust me.


I trust no one from across the internet...with the exception of all Bungie staff.

  • 06.17.2004 9:51 AM PDT
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who agrrees with me here here are the matches: ODSTs and ELITEs
SPARTANS and BRUTES

  • 06.17.2004 10:01 AM PDT
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Jackals(on Legendary mode and in the books) are more of a balance to the ODSTs than Brutes. Replace Brute with Jackal and it is all good.

  • 06.17.2004 10:12 AM PDT
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Posted by: Hyper Saxon
Hey, just because it's different doesn't mean we shouldn't be able to play as it. In Mechassault they let you play as those little Elemental things, they're absolute shyt but people can still play as them. Why not let people in Halo 2 play as other things too?

Games like Mechassault 2 are expanding the idea of multiplayer in so many ways, now you can control tanks and gun turrets in Mechassault even though they're NOT mechs. Why not let someone try to play as a Grunt or Jackal in Halo 2? And just to make it balanced, here's what I would do with every character:

Spartan II - leave as is.
Marine - no shields, tad bit more health.
Sarge (also known as "the black guy") - extra health :)
Elite - leave as is.
Grunt - small and slow with no shields but moderate health.
Jackal - moves a little faster than Grunt and always spawns with Plasma Shield. Tad bit less health.
Hunter - lots of health, slow moving, can do brutal charge attack when running (like Mercs in Splinter Cell), unable to use vehicles.
Brutes - more health than Elites but no shields. Boarding animation: claw slash (like in 2003 single player trailer).
Prophets - er... no.
Flood Variation 1 (infested human type) - very weak but very fast and agile. Starts with better weapon selection. Can leap far distances.
Flood Variation 2 (infested covenant type) - same as above but different skin.

Oh and by the way, this would all be in a seperate mp mode. All of the regular modes would have regular Spartan II battles (probably Elite too). This mode would be designed to give players the opportunity to enact their own Halo battles from single player in a multiplayer environment. While throwing the Flood in there is iffy, the whole idea of anything other than Spartans and Elites is iffy in and of itself. But it would be a great experience nonetheless, being able to do something like this in mp. And those who would rather play normal can do that if they want to.


u stupid hos do u know why halo did well the multiplayer was simple, and easy to use, no crazy random chracters with different abiulities, because there will always be one thatis more powerful , if u want this they should make a new gae, keep halo 2 mp to its roots thatwts what made thefierst game a sucess, elites and spartans are editio enuf, LEAVE IT ALONE, the blalance is fine and bunggie knows what theyre doing not u so all u stupid hos stfu.

  • 06.17.2004 10:19 AM PDT
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im done now :)

  • 06.17.2004 10:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: Hikaru 119
Jackals(on Legendary mode and in the books) are more of a balance to the ODSTs than Brutes. Replace Brute with Jackal and it is all good.


i was saying ODST is a match to Elite Brute is a match to Spartan

  • 06.17.2004 10:28 AM PDT
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anyone agree with me on that

  • 06.17.2004 5:21 PM PDT

OMG, this is Halo people. Not fricken UT or CS. I wish they had just kept it MC only. That way everyone is equal. It made Halo great; it was something different. Keep it simple.

  • 06.17.2004 5:44 PM PDT

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