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Subject: Woe is me.
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I spent the past hour working on a counter melody for something I'm writing when inspiration struck. It was awesome.

Then I recognized it as a part from the Matrix. And I cried.

  • 01.20.2005 6:42 PM PDT
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Be like Vanilla Ice and change one note. That'll make it original!

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  • 01.20.2005 6:44 PM PDT
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I hate it when I write some cool tune, only to discover that I subliminally copied it from somewhere else. I actually do that in my writing, too. It gets really annoying.

  • 01.20.2005 6:45 PM PDT
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That's what I'm experimenting with.

But, alas, one note would change the key. I could change the melody to make it fit... but woe.

I wonder if Marty ever runs into that problem. Does he ever think of something really neat only to later remember he got it from somewhere else?

  • 01.20.2005 6:45 PM PDT
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pardon me

  • 01.20.2005 6:49 PM PDT
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if you mix up some of the chords and instrumentals, it will be a copy, but it wont sound a thing like it. it works sometimes, but then again it also fails horrible..... sometimes.

  • 01.20.2005 6:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Genius is the art of concealing your sources.

Nothing wrong with using another composers work as a jump-off point. John Williams (and countless others have) made a fortune doing it.

I thought that I had written a fabulous instrumental, took it to my friends who instantly recognized that I had (unknowingly) "re-created" a compilation of Yes songs.



I feel like I cheated, then, as if what I wrote isn't really mine.

As a creator I like to create stuff - not duplicate.

Still, in frustration I banged around at a C minor (I believe) and found another neat counter-melody. Hurrah!

  • 01.20.2005 6:53 PM PDT
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sometimes (in my dreams) i'll hear very detailed music ( guitar, drums, like a whole band) sometimes with some vocals. It actually sounds really good and it is all original stuff, but when i wake up i cant remember the riffs to play them on my guitar, im prolly just going insane or somthing.

  • 01.20.2005 6:56 PM PDT
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subliminal copying is more common than you'de think. Every new band/artist you hear copied something from somewhere, and most never even know.

  • 01.20.2005 6:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
We had done a Rush-ish version of the theme from Sesame Street.


thats classic. do you happen to still have that track?

  • 01.20.2005 6:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Still, in frustration I banged around at a C minor (I believe) and found another neat counter-melody. Hurrah!


Nearly everything I write is in C minor. It's very pathetic. (Of course, most of it would be very pathetic in any key).

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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Besides, reworking a song that people have heard is a great way to get their attention.

A band that I was in used to play a power-trio song that really rocked. People loved hearing it played, never could guess who we were "covering". They would always say things like, "I've heard that before, but I don't recall who did it." We never told them that it had been carved into their psyche since they were kids watching educational TV.

We had done a Rush-ish version of the theme from Sesame Street.


That is awesome.

  • 01.20.2005 7:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Still, in frustration I banged around at a C minor (I believe) and found another neat counter-melody. Hurrah!


Nearly everything I write is in C minor. It's very pathetic. (Of course, most of it would be very pathetic in any key).


Well... this was more by accident. I saw an A and started pressing keys around it. Suddenly, BAM. Though it might be in another minor key now... it's kind of changing as I attempt to write it down.

And it's an awesome chance for a hemeola (sp?) - my song is in 4|4 and the random thing I cooked up sounds like an Irish jig in 6|8.

  • 01.20.2005 7:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: Caddywampus
sometimes (in my dreams) i'll hear very detailed music ( guitar, drums, like a whole band) sometimes with some vocals. It actually sounds really good and it is all original stuff, but when i wake up i cant remember the riffs to play them on my guitar, im prolly just going insane or somthing.


That's happened to me. I actually doubt if you're really hearing notes, or if you're only dreaming you're hearing notes in your dream.

It's like how you can recognize people by their faces in dreams, even though they may not actually have a face.

  • 01.20.2005 7:04 PM PDT
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So sad

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Posted by: ObbiQuiet
It's like how you can recognize people by their faces in dreams, even though they may not actually have a face.


Or how you can read in dreams without seeing the words.

  • 01.20.2005 7:07 PM PDT
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I made part of a song and then my friend thought it was cool so he made the rest of it. Now his band is playing it and I get nothing. It makes me...well, actually I just wanted money, but I guess I'll be ok.

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Yes? Rush?
Recon....you're not my prog rock loving dad are you? :)

(Insert mum joke here)

And my music composition is limited to Reason and a bit of Cubase...mmm, home made electronica...

  • 01.21.2005 3:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Genius is the art of concealing your sources.

Nothing wrong with using another composers work as a jump-off point. John Williams (and countless others have) made a fortune doing it.

I thought that I had written a fabulous instrumental, took it to my friends who instantly recognized that I had (unknowingly) "re-created" a compilation of Yes songs.



That kind of goes allong with the saying everything been down before, its about improving the ideas and putting spin on them.

  • 01.21.2005 4:43 AM PDT
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I have to admit I really like R.E.M, though their new stuff (Around the Sun) is a bit bland. I guess they've just been around too long!

As a completely uninteresting aside, I have the same name as the bassist from "Yes": Chris Squire. My Dad claims it's coincidence, but I've seen his old "Yes" LPs!

  • 01.23.2005 8:07 AM PDT

Hail the SI. Keep It Clean

Posted by: ObbiQuiet
Then I recognized it as a part from the Matrix. And I cried.


It still might be good.

  • 01.23.2005 9:29 AM PDT
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Anybody remember the Verve scandal and their chorus having part of a Rolling Stones song in it? I don't really remember the details off the top of my head.

That pissed me off, because they were one of the new (-ish) bands that I liked.

[Edited on 1/23/2005 10:00:13 AM]

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