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Poll: Is the X-Box prefered as a platform over PC for Halo 2  [closed]
X-Box is a better platform for high res. stuff.:  38%
(34 Votes)
PC could potentialy put out equal graphics.:  4%
(4 Votes)
Even a blind man can tell that a PC is better.:  9%
(8 Votes)
X-Box may be less functional, but rocks for games.:  31%
(28 Votes)
X-Box and PC are both equal, but PC costs too much:  18%
(16 Votes)
Total Votes: 90

I just named it this to enrage people. Don't take me seriously. I want to know if you think that it is possible to make PC graphics better than X-Box, as I prefer the PC platform.

  • 06.15.2004 8:23 PM PDT
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Aphaxad is a loser! I can say this because he's my best friend. Take my word for it, a real loser!

  • 06.15.2004 8:26 PM PDT
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This post is not meant to offend anyone, if it offends you please send a letter to this address:
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Posted by: Rahdigan
Aphaxad is a loser! I can say this because he's my best friend. Take my word for it, a real loser!

  • 06.15.2004 8:28 PM PDT
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What Arphaxad said is all wrong.

  • 06.15.2004 8:28 PM PDT
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where are all these people comin from ? down talkin H2 , makin extremely uncalled for threads ???? the hell ?

  • 06.15.2004 8:30 PM PDT
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This was once again not meant to offend. It was only to attract voters. Please understand that I like Halo 2 from what I have seen.

  • 06.15.2004 8:37 PM PDT
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I want to know if you think that it is possible to make PC graphics better than X-Box, as I prefer the PC platform.That depends on what's meant by possible. Obviously, the Xbox runs on ancient hardware so a game that's written to take advantage of a particular hardware setup and boot by itself as an OS so it has free reign over the rig's resources could look much better than anything for the Xbox could. It's theoretically possible, but not profitable at all.
Assuming you mean the meanest rig you can put together with what's on the shelf today(including ROM, bios, OS, drivers, etc.- just otc stuff, no deep customization), I'm sure it can push more than what we've seen so far on the Xbox when games are made to take advantage of it. I've seen PC games out already that look at least as sweeet as Halo. However, I dunno if the Xbox has really been pushed to its limits yet. All Xboxes having the exact same system specs and the game being essentially booted as the OS means that you aren't running stuff in the background and the game can be optimized perfectly for the hardware.

I don't think we've seen the best either can offer yet; It was several years after the N64 came out before Rare's Perfect Dark pushed it to the limit. The meanest PC hardware around now hasn't been around for that long, obviously.

Edit: Oh, yeah.
Aphaxad is a loser! I can say this because he's my best friend. Take my word for it, a real loser!Does this guy have any idea how he's insulting himself by claiming to be someone who says stuff like this about his best friend? If he really does consider Aphaxad his best friend, I can't say I don't mean to offend...

[Edited on 6/15/2004 11:07:48 PM]

  • 06.15.2004 11:01 PM PDT
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Holy monkeys

Have you guys been living in the stone age?
A high end PC blows the X-Box out of the water like it's a kiddie's toy.

Halo doesn't have amazing jawdropping graphics...
I'm not saying they're bad either.


  • 06.15.2004 11:07 PM PDT
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To add to the pro-Xbox sentiment, Halo is made to be better tuned to Xbox control. Your Xbox controller will work better for Halo than a mouse and keyboard. When you port a game from the PC to a console or the other way around, a lot of tweaking is involved to make the controls seem as natural as possible. There are way to often many mistakes or faults, and the control just won't feel as fluid. Because the first Halo was on the Xbox, the controls for this type of game and engine have already been fine tuned, taking out more of the work than most can imagen. When Halo was ported to the computer, there were some complaints about the controls, but it was done surprisingly well and the controls to me seemed fine, but anyone who's played it on both has a right to their opinions on controls. I personally enjoy the console controls system better, because I tend to twitch when playing on my PC and that becomes a problem with many ported games. Graphics wize, the Xbox will also have much less lag then most computers, considering that your Xbox has dedicated all its resources to the game, whereas your computer has not. It's difficult to say, but personally, I like Halo on the Xbox better.

  • 06.15.2004 11:09 PM PDT
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I've seen some sweeet PC stuff, for sure. I know the newer hardware has much more potential than the Xbox, but I suspect that the Xbox still has potential for stuff beyond what's blowing it out of the water now.

My friend's PC has more than a dozen times the hardware capability of my Xbox in almost every respect, but no game will exist that comes remotely near taking advantage of everything that hardware could possibly have to offer. There's just too many compatibility issues with sooo many different manufacturers, chipsets, third-party cards, bus speeds, bioses, drivers, hard drive setups, toolsets, and custom configurations of everything. There isn't a singe component in one PC that's the same as in everyone else's! Any PC built in the last few years has way more theoretical potential than the Xbox, but that won't be tapped. Everything your favourite PC game does is probably threaded through your OS and competing with whatever else's running in the background for the resources of a machine where everything's inefficiently integrated with ancient standardized connections, so it runs hot trying to play that game. The Xbox isn't being pushed hard yet; it's so specialized that mine doesn't even need its blamn cooling fan to play Halo, Unreal Championship, MechAssault or whatever. Microshaft even removed the fan from the design 'cause it's not being needed! I hope to see games catch up to where we see a cooling accesory or retrofit kit... I would love to see any hardware used efficiently and pushed to its limits with perfectly optimized software. That might happen with a standardized console, but not a PC.

  • 06.15.2004 11:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: forumrunner
I want to know if you think that it is possible to make PC graphics better than X-Box, as I prefer the PC platform.That depends on what's meant by possible. Obviously, the Xbox runs on ancient hardware so a game that's written to take advantage of a particular hardware setup and boot by itself as an OS so it has free reign over the rig's resources could look much better than anything for the Xbox could. It's theoretically possible, but not profitable at all.
Assuming you mean the meanest rig you can put together with what's on the shelf today(including ROM, bios, OS, drivers, etc.- just otc stuff, no deep customization), I'm sure it can push more than what we've seen so far on the Xbox when games are made to take advantage of it. I've seen PC games out already that look at least as sweeet as Halo. However, I dunno if the Xbox has really been pushed to its limits yet. All Xboxes having the exact same system specs and the game being essentially booted as the OS means that you aren't running stuff in the background and the game can be optimized perfectly for the hardware.

I don't think we've seen the best either can offer yet; It was several years after the N64 came out before Rare's Perfect Dark pushed it to the limit. The meanest PC hardware around now hasn't been around for that long, obviously.

Edit: Oh, yeah.
Aphaxad is a loser! I can say this because he's my best friend. Take my word for it, a real loser!Does this guy have any idea how he's insulting himself by claiming to be someone who says stuff like this about his best friend? If he really does consider Aphaxad his best friend, I can't say I don't mean to offend...


It was a joke. He was reading at the same time and we were talking on the phone. He thought it was funny. I don't usually insult people if you'd care to look at my other posts.

  • 06.16.2004 4:55 AM PDT
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Everybody knows that jokes ruined Poko The Clown's career.

  • 06.16.2004 5:12 AM PDT
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i said Xbox and PC are both equal, but PC costs too much, because its true! PC's cost WAY to much!!!! Plus to me the Xbox is the conslue i would choose over any system for any game on all Platforms!!

  • 06.16.2004 5:20 AM PDT
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But PC does have potential, if they start getting their hardware more uniform!

  • 06.16.2004 5:24 AM PDT
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Alienware, ATI X-800, and Klipsch with surround sound. Get all those and you could kick some X-Box butt. The problem? It's pricey.

  • 06.16.2004 6:09 AM PDT
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your subject is false advertising! except its not advertising. ITS FALSE SUBJECTISIZING! lol

  • 06.16.2004 6:10 AM PDT
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when playing online i would say that the xbox is more just because everyone has the same hardware and graphics and everyone can be sure that the next person sees the same things as themselves

ok i made this speech because i feel bad about all the people who play halo pc and think invisibility works because on my pc the graphics are great exept that invisible players are light blue and really stand out making them a easy target

  • 06.16.2004 6:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: Arphaxad
Everybody knows that jokes ruined Poko The Clown's career.

Sometimes I wonder about you.

  • 06.16.2004 6:22 AM PDT
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Who the hell could play a first person shooter with a keyboard and mouse it's way to hard too many keys involved why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... and PC rigs for gaming cost easily over $1000 dollars.But pc's only should be used for normal stuff,not games save that few grand to get surround sound and a plasma screen not a PC.Consoles are the leaders in games not including nintendo tho they just can't do anything besides make yoshi eat mushroom's like an addicted hippie.

  • 06.16.2004 8:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: Questioner 63
Who the hell could play a first person shooter with a keyboard and mouse it's way to hard too many keys involved why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... and PC rigs for gaming cost easily over $1000 dollars.But pc's only should be used for normal stuff,not games save that few grand to get surround sound and a plasma screen not a PC.Consoles are the leaders in games not including nintendo tho they just can't do anything besides make yoshi eat mushroom's like an addicted hippie.
well said

  • 06.16.2004 8:23 AM PDT
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Ok well I have to put my 2-bits in. The PC can be way better if you have the $$$$$$. Of course most of us don't so it is easier to buy an xbox. Ok, I'm done.

  • 06.16.2004 8:27 AM PDT
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there may never be a platform that is better than a pc. platforms get outdated very quickly. you can go to the store and by a pc controller if you really want. this thread is the dumbest thing ever. for all of you that didnt vote any blind man can see a pc is better, your retarded.

  • 06.16.2004 8:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: foodfodaskin
there may never be a platform that is better than a pc. platforms get outdated very quickly. you can go to the store and by a pc controller if you really want. this thread is the dumbest thing ever. for all of you that didnt vote any blind man can see a pc is better, your retarded.

YES! Somebody sees it my way! The PC has more potential! It blows silly single-function consoles out of the water! Well said my good person!

  • 06.16.2004 9:18 AM PDT
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pc is way too easy with xbox it takes skill to use the stick and still get a headshot right away

  • 06.16.2004 9:19 AM PDT
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The PC may be better if you don't count how much it costs. I do count the cost, it is a major part of my consideration. Money is important, you need it to buy Halo2. Anyhow, good PC's are better but way to expensive. Thus my vote is with the xbox.

  • 06.16.2004 9:25 AM PDT

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