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Subject: Manipulation
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Perhaps life is about manipulation? Just about everywhere you look, you see some aspect of manipulation. Simply put, manipulation is to control, but there's something more natural about it. It's more about using available means in a way for personal gain, control is simply a process of manipulation. The human race has especially advanced in this ability, what we consistently call "creation" is really manipulation. During the earliest ages of man, we didn't "create" tools, we manipulated available resources into such a way to perform in a specific way. Or is it that "creation" is a process of manipulation as well? It's still just as true today, we manipulate metals, all other natural resources, and even the behavior of electrons to "make" things like TVs and Computers. We manipulate metals and such to create a process with which to manipulate the behavior of gasoline, a product of the manipulation of crude oil, to manipulate the movement of metals into the movement of the automobile.

Manipulation is woven into our very beings, we manipulate chemicals in our body to manipulate our muscles into tightening to manipulate our limbs. We manipulate food and digest it for nutrients, but here we have another process of manipulation, "destruction". Perhaps there are actually three types of manipulation? Creation, control, destruction, or is it still just as easily three parts of one thing? Could there be more? could there be a fourth? Like the possibility of a fourth dimension. Perhaps it is beyond us, because we are victim to it?

  • 01.20.2005 11:51 PM PDT
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That's deep... real deep.

  • 01.21.2005 12:08 AM PDT
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my head hurts.

  • 01.21.2005 5:11 AM PDT

I'm manipulating myself, right now.

Oh and take this to the Socrates Forum where it belongs.

  • 01.21.2005 6:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: The Urkitect
I'm manipulating myself, right now.


I could have gone without knowing that...

  • 01.21.2005 6:11 AM PDT

What is the Matrix?

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do you take the blue pill or the red pill?
i forgot the one that takes you back to reality
oh well

  • 01.21.2005 8:47 AM PDT

We’ve watched while the stars burned
Out, and creation played in reverse.
The Universe freezing in half-light.
Once I thought to escape.
To end a master, step out of the
Path of collapse. Escape would make us God.
Yet I cannot help but remember one enigma,
A hybrid, elusive destroyer.
This is the one mystery I have not solved.
The only element unaccounted for.

Technically everything that occurs is simply due to something being manipulated. It's similiar to the natural vs. man-made argument: aren't they the same thing? We came from nature, and therefore everything we do is natural.

  • 01.21.2005 8:54 AM PDT
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*smokes bubble pipe*

But that is true, everything is manipulated. The glucose that comes in a chocolate we eat is manipulated into smaller forms and then manipulated further to create energy for cells which can than be manipulated to cause cells to move, reproduce and perform base functions. I am manipulating a keyboard right now to type this post.

Manipulation is everywhere.

  • 01.21.2005 9:00 AM PDT
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Nothing humans do is natural except reproduction, love and hate.

  • 01.21.2005 9:06 AM PDT

Posted by: Stalking Puma
Creation, control, destruction, or is it still just as easily three parts of one thing? Could there be more? could there be a fourth? Like the possibility of a fourth dimension. Perhaps it is beyond us, because we are victim to it?


Could you explain that part further? I have always thought of the forth dimension as being beyond our minds. If we were ever to go there (highly unlikely), our minds couldn't comprehend what we were seeing. Actually, some believe that the fourth dimension is overlaid on top of our own, but since they are indeed in another dimension we cannot see the beings in that realm. They say that this fact explains the odd things people see in out of body experiences and whatnot. For example, the bright light at the end of the tunnel everyone talks about- it could be the fourth dimension, but since we cannot comprehend it, we associate it with objects in our dimension (the tunnel, light, and whatnot).

I probably lost about half of you- but I found that information interesting when I first heard it.

  • 01.21.2005 9:11 AM PDT
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*yawn*

  • 01.21.2005 9:38 AM PDT

Posted by: Griffin Spades
i agree with whatever obbi says on this topic.


Why don't you go ahead and bow down and chant his name while you're at it.

  • 01.21.2005 9:55 AM PDT
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I like cheese.

  • 01.21.2005 10:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: Heaugerkerkerk
I like cheese.


bend over?

  • 01.21.2005 10:48 AM PDT
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PERHAPS LIEF IS ABOUT MANIPULATION??????!? OMG JUST ABOUT 3VARYWHARE U LOK U SE SOMA ASPACT OF MANIPULATION!!!111 SIMPLY PUT MANIPULATION IS 2 CONTROL BUT THEIR SOM3THNG MORE NATURAL ABOUT IT!!!1!!! OMG ITS MOR3 ABOUT USNG AVALEABLA MEANS IN A WAY FOR PARSONAL GANE CONTROL IS SIMPLY A PROCES OF MANIPULATION1!!111! DA HUMAN RAEC HAS ESPECIALY ADVANC3D IN THIS ABILITY WUT W3 CONSISTANTLY CAL CREATION IS RILLY MANIPULATION!1!!!1! OMG WTF DURNG TEH 3ARLEIST AEGS OF MAN WE DIDNT CR3AET 2LS W3 MANIPULAETD AVALEABL3 RASOURCES IN2 SUCH A WAY 2 P3RFORM IN A SPECIFIC WAY11!11!!1 WTF OR IS IT TAHT CREATION IS A PROC3S OF MANIPULATION AS WAL????! OMG ITS STIL JUST AS TRUE 2DAY WE MANIPULAET METALS AL OTHER NATURAL RESOURCES AND EVEN TEH BHAVIOR OF 3L3CTRONS 2 MAEK THNGS LIEK TVS AND COMPUTERS111!111! OMG WTF WA MANIPULAET METALS AND SUCH 2 CR3AET A PROC3S WIT WHICH 2 MANIPULAET DA BHAVIOR OF GASOLIEN A PRODUCT OF DA MANIPULATION OF CRUD3 OIL 2 MANIPULAET DA MOV3MENT OF METALS IN2 TEH MOVEMENT OF TEH AU2MOBIEL

MANIPULATION1!!1111! OMG WTF IS WOV3N IN2 OUR V3RY BNGS W3 MANIPULAET CH3MICALS IN OUR BODY 2 MANIPULAET OUR MUSCLES IN2 TIGHTENNG 2 MANIPULAET OUR LIMBS!1!1 WE MANIPULAET FOD AND DIEGST IT FOR NUTREINTS BUT HERE WA HAEV ANOTHAR PROC3S OF MANIPULATION D3STRUCTION!!11!!! LOL PARHAPS THEIR R ACTUALY THRE TYP3S OF MANIPULATION?!!!??!?? OMG CR3ATION CONTROL DASTRUCTION OR IS IT STIL JUST AS 3ASILY THRE PARTS OF ONE THNG?!!?!! OMG LOL CUD THEIR B MORE?!?????!! CUD THEIR B A FOURTH??!?! LOL LIEK TEH POSIBILITY OF A FOURTH DIEMNSION!1!!1111 LOL PERHAPS IT IS BYOND US B/C WA R VICTIM 2 IT?!?!!!?

j/k, I agree with you, good read by the way,

  • 01.21.2005 10:54 AM PDT
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Well, this has spun completely off-topic.

  • 01.21.2005 11:15 AM PDT

Posted by: Griffin Spades
Posted by: Banshee Barron
Posted by: Griffin Spades
i agree with whatever obbi says on this topic.


Why don't you go ahead and bow down and chant his name while you're at it.


somone is jelous cause i didn't pick him.


What are you talking about? I said that because I'm tired of the Obbi worship on this forum, not for some other reason.

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So we really don't do anything, we manipulate things to our desire. But that would mean that nothing has ever been accomplished, but that everything was simply changed. In that case, our whole existence would be a failure.

  • 01.21.2005 4:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: eliteskull94
Well, this has spun completely off-topic.

This is the off-topic forum.

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