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My Tips To Reach 50!
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Posted by: WarriorFor7ruth
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I watched it, and watched how the host you had was incredible. Every shot connected, no leading at all.

I'll sum it up:

Get host, get 50.

There. Done. End of discussion.

One step ahead.


Perhaps you didn't notice that I was blue team. Red team is the first team filled, meaning host joins red team. Do the math.


well I just learned something. I had no idea that the team which filled up first had host. Now that I know that it might be easier tot ell who is actually the host. Thanks.


Maybe you just heard it now because it's completely made up.

I dont know. It was like that in Halo 2. Someone on Red had host then. And I can guarantee I did not have host that game for several reasons. One of the most prominent is that I was a floor up from my router on a wireless adapter. That game was played while I had a LAN party going on. So, if the game would resort to giving host to a guy on blue far away from a wireless adapter, then I dont know what to do.

Was I laggy? No. I'm fine with it. I prefer being closer to my router, and on a wired connection, but things dont always happen that way. Either way, someone has to have host. We can either use it as an excuse, or live with it.

If we're getting into host questions, and people are wondering, there are many ways to check. Such as everyone talk when the countdown gets to 0 at black load screen. Person who's voice lags is host. On guardian, shoot the birds. If it blows up, you have host. On standoff, same thing with bird. On the pit, go in sword room and look at the video cameras on the walls. If they follow you, host. If not, not host.

[Edited on 01.22.2009 10:19 PM PST]

  • 01.22.2009 10:10 PM PDT
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Ok wtf, I know you are really determined to make a guide to get a 50 and what not, but you obviously dont know about good kids that play halo.

"It will hopefully also have The Tyrant, creator of the Mythic Walkthrough, as a guest star."

This guy doesent play MM and all he is is a campaign whore, if you want a real guest star get a kid that has a legit 50 in a playlist that matters or at least is well known in MM like Scripted.
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=XbL+ScR ipTeD

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Posted by: i BioNigg
Ok wtf, I know you are really determined to make a guide to get a 50 and what not, but you obviously dont know about good kids that play halo.

"It will hopefully also have The Tyrant, creator of the Mythic Walkthrough, as a guest star."

This guy doesent play MM and all he is is a campaign whore, if you want a real guest star get a kid that has a legit 50 in a playlist that matters or at least is well known in MM like Scripted.
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=XbL+ScR ipTeD

Actually he does play MM. He had a General (some grade, don't remember), and he couldn't stand people saying that he boosted for it or bought it.

And, Campaign whore? =) Can someone be a Matchmaking whore as well?

[Edited on 01.23.2009 9:18 AM PST]

  • 01.23.2009 9:17 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gazas
Posted by: i BioNigg
Ok wtf, I know you are really determined to make a guide to get a 50 and what not, but you obviously dont know about good kids that play halo.

"It will hopefully also have The Tyrant, creator of the Mythic Walkthrough, as a guest star."

This guy doesent play MM and all he is is a campaign whore, if you want a real guest star get a kid that has a legit 50 in a playlist that matters or at least is well known in MM like Scripted.
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=XbL+ScR ipTeD

Actually he does play MM. He had a General (some grade, don't remember), and he couldn't stand people saying that he boosted for it or bought it.

And, Campaign whore? =) Can someone be a Matchmaking whore as well?


Hmm. Never heard of Scripted. So much for well known. As for The Tyrant, I knew him back when he had his General. We complained about being complained about together. I specifically remember playing a game together, losing by about 4 kills, and then told that we suck, bought our 50's, and should stop playing Halo all together. And to top it all off the person telling us this was about 12 years old.

So no. I've known him for a long time. The first message he sent to me was-

Posted by: Tyrant122312
Thank you for posting those tips. They will be a huge help in future games and it looks like you truly know what you're talking about. Would u mind if I sent u a LIVE request?


on 3/5/08. We've known each other for a long time, and he can play. As for someone well known, I'd say someone who's thread has around 8,000 replies and the top of the most popular threads list is rather well-known.

As for not knowing good people at Halo, I assure you that I do. It's not like they're rare. Unless you're referring to only MLG Pro's, then I would have to slightly agree with you. Slightly, because my team is good friends with, and scrimmages with the rank #14 MLG Pro Circuit Meadowlands team. We met them on the ladder this year in a match, and became good friends. I'd say they're pretty good.

So I'd watch what you say before you say bad things about people whom I feel close to, and assume that I dont know good people. I dont understand your thing about interviewing a "legit 50". I have about 40 legit 50's on my friends list. Who would care if they're just a random 50?

And what do you mean a playlist that matters? I'd like a description. One my teammates got his 50 in Lone Wolves. Does that matter? The other got his in Doubles with me. Does that matter? I got mine in Team Slayer and Doubles. Do either of those matter?

Oh, and I'd have to agree with Gazas on the whole "campaign whore" thing.

But thanks for the read.

  • 01.25.2009 8:13 PM PDT

Let's go on a living spree?

Really nice tips, thank you :)

  • 01.26.2009 12:43 AM PDT

If you had a dream of you beating me, you better wake up and apologize.

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  • 01.26.2009 12:59 AM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
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Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
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Posted by: GenrlEisenhower
Current Level- Level 50 major lolz, forum useless to proz


No matter what your level is or your skill, you can always improve. Even just reading this will give you an idea of what could be going on in an opponent's mind.

There's a reason MLG pro's practice 8 or so hours a day. Even they can improve their playstyle.

  • 01.26.2009 9:01 AM PDT

I was never into skill, I play Halo for fun. I picked Field Major and thought "There's me, not too much skill and a lot of games". I got an xp ban for mucking around in Rumble Pit so I decided to head into Lone Wolves to try and hit some achievements, not thinking I could earn skill... then I won and went to 35.

Now, I'm set on going for something a little higher, but I have a problem.

Team Doubles, playing with my cousin (a 40 in LW). I was 11 in TD, he a 14, and after several easy wins he was 22 and I was 14... even though I would get +9 etc and he would get, at times, -K/D.

Then, we started playing second accounters.

Do you have any idea (this isn't directed at anyone personally) how annoying it is to find a random lieutenant with a 50, or something in your game, with other people who are similar levels to myself?

Or in Lone Wolves. Even with priority on Skill, it usually turns out something like this.

Major 33
Major 34
Commander 35
Commander 36
Me 35
Commander 37
Colonel 41
Brigadier 47

or even sometimes a General.

Kinda annoying huh.

  • 01.29.2009 1:52 PM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.

Posted by: I Mad Larkin
I was never into skill, I play Halo for fun. I picked Field Major and thought "There's me, not too much skill and a lot of games". I got an xp ban for mucking around in Rumble Pit so I decided to head into Lone Wolves to try and hit some achievements, not thinking I could earn skill... then I won and went to 35.

Now, I'm set on going for something a little higher, but I have a problem.

Team Doubles, playing with my cousin (a 40 in LW). I was 11 in TD, he a 14, and after several easy wins he was 22 and I was 14... even though I would get +9 etc and he would get, at times, -K/D.

Then, we started playing second accounters.

Do you have any idea (this isn't directed at anyone personally) how annoying it is to find a random lieutenant with a 50, or something in your game, with other people who are similar levels to myself?

Or in Lone Wolves. Even with priority on Skill, it usually turns out something like this.

Major 33
Major 34
Commander 35
Commander 36
Me 35
Commander 37
Colonel 41
Brigadier 47

or even sometimes a General.

Kinda annoying huh.


Well, ranking does not depend on K/D spread, MVP, flag caps, ball time, number of headshots, etc. All that trueskill knows is WINS and LOSSES. You have your Mu and your Sigma, both trueskill factors. Mu is roughly your actual level, and Sigma is the level range it could be in.

For instance, your Mu could be 35, and your sigma be 30-43. This means, your skill rank is between level 30 and 43, and your current level is at 35.

Now, as you play more games, your Sigma decreases, and sort of "locks in" your Mu. Many eventually find themselves with a Mu of 46, and a Sigma of 45-47. This makes it very hard for them to rank up. The only way to do so is to win constantly. This is what many refer to as "rank lock" and causes them to want to go and make separate accounts.

Is there any way to view your Sigma? Yes and no. No, because you cannot actually view any information in the TrueSkill system. That's kept to them. Yes, because you've got your EXP. See, EXP does this marvelous thing, where it tells you how many games you've won. If you've got a lot of games played, and a lot of EXP, chances are, your Sigma is pretty small, as the ranking system is finding exactly where to put you. Now, if you've got say... 2000 games, but have only won 900 of them, chances are, your Mu and Sigma could look like this-

27...32...34

This means that since you are below 50% win/loss ratio, you've got a higher chance of going down. Plus, since you've played a lot of games, your Sigma is pretty small.

Let's move on. Before the game starts, the match will decide who wins and who loses. Yep. But those decisions are not final. It's just what should happen. So, based on your different Mus and Sigmas, the game could think that you should win, and your teammate should lose. Weird, huh? But what's this? You win?!? Nothing out of the ordinary for you, but for your teammate, woa. Level up. This is what helps boosters rank up. The system thinks the lower level player should lose, but he doesn't, so it's instant 5 level ups.

Now, as for you playing Generals. You see, when high level players lose multiple games, TrueSkill gets mad. It gets so mad that it decides to test them. It will put them with lower rank players and say "you should win." But if they dont, they go down, and it looks good for you. If they do win, TrueSkill simply says "Alright. You get to keep your level... for now..." These are what I like to call "Trial Matches."

TrueSkill is the king of all. Learn it. Obey it. Live by it. 'cuz knowledge is power!

  • 01.29.2009 7:25 PM PDT
Subject: My Tips To Help You Reach 50!
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OK i like people who help out other people, but to be honest you where playing nubs people dont just run at you when it's BR starts.... I am sorry but you played real low level kids or if they where high there accounts are off ebay... sorry dude good for helping out guys, but that film was BS...

  • 01.29.2009 7:37 PM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.

Posted by: x R8TED x
OK i like people who help out other people, but to be honest you where playing nubs people dont just run at you when it's BR starts.... I am sorry but you played real low level kids or if they where high there accounts are off ebay... sorry dude good for helping out guys, but that film was BS...


ummm... thanks? Yeah, they weren't that good, but I used that video, because it showed the best way to control the map. I could show a game with us playing very good players, but its harder to show how to control if we're dying every minute or so. It just seemed easier.

As a recap for any of those who're following the 2009 MLG Pro Circuit Meadowlands ladder, my team is now ranked 63rd, guaranteeing our spot at Meadowlands... for now. We're going to try to push our spot up higher, and then hold our position.

  • 02.01.2009 7:31 PM PDT
Subject: My Tips To Help You Reach 50! (Now With Video!)

I see. Usually when I win one or two games in Team Slayer or LW I go up. Occasionally I win two or three (i.e. come in the top 4) then lose one and go down, and then don't go up again for ages, but I can kinda see why this happens now.

Still, even if the Brigadier/General isn't as good as his fellow Brigadiers/Generals s/he still owns myself and the others of my rank, and I can only ever get thrid or fourth, maybe second if no-one else is in the game.

See, I'm better than most commanders of my area, even a few colonels. I played MLG once and out-brd a Brigadier 47... six times.

If there weren't any "trial games" going on in my LW games I could easily get a 45 in it.

So what you are saying is that I should let my cousin place first in TD, and then he's less likely to go up?

  • 02.05.2009 2:14 AM PDT

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My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
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Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
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Posted by: I Mad Larkin
If there weren't any "trial games" going on in my LW games I could easily get a 45 in it.

So what you are saying is that I should let my cousin place first in TD, and then he's less likely to go up?


Look at it this way- The game is putting you in the category of the better 44's, or whatever your level is. It think you'll give them a good match.

As for your cousin placing first, no. It wont matter who has more kills. It will just see that he was less likely to win against the level of players he was up against, while you stood a better chance. So, since your team would win, he would rank up.

So in the end, it doesn't matter who places first, as long as your team wins. That's the main reason why I get annoyed when I have teammates who complain about things like "you took my kill!"

  • 02.06.2009 5:16 AM PDT
Subject: My Tips To Help You Reach 50!
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Good tips. I actually do alot of what is said.
I've had 4 accounts all multiple 50s, 1 having a 50 in MLG.
This will help you rank up if you do it properly.
Good call outs, teamwork, and the right timing is all that is needed.
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  • 02.06.2009 5:38 AM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
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Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.

Posted by: M o lNl s T e R
Good call outs, teamwork, and the right timing is all that is needed.


Yes. Any team of 4 that goes into a playlist and uses communication will beat a team that doesn't know eachother and doesn't talk. Doesn't matter if they are better than you skill-wise. If you keep your teamwork going, you'll end up on top.

  • 02.09.2009 8:29 AM PDT
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Stop bumping your thread. If people actually wanted to post in it, they wouldn't need help posting in it from you.

  • 02.09.2009 8:37 AM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.

Posted by: ShieldlesS
Stop bumping your thread. If people actually wanted to post in it, they wouldn't need help posting in it from you.


I'm replying to people. Just because I may be a day off doesn't change that. Forums are not meant to be chat rooms. It isn't an instant reply. Bungie forums may move quickly, but their speed does not change the deffinition of a forum. I think this thread that actually is helping people is a lot better than those threads that are up.

"Post hardcore gamertags"? "Why is my armor gone"? "What's the V-day playlist about"? "Download something from the person above you"? "I got this!"? "Why I'm quitting Halo"? "How do I get on bungie favorites"? One of the millions of sandbox threads?

Take your pick, and tell me what's more useful than this thread.

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  • 02.11.2009 8:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: ShieldlesS
Stop bumping your thread. If people actually wanted to post in it, they wouldn't need help posting in it from you.
Huh. New here, are you?

When do you assume the next video will come up Shadow?

  • 02.11.2009 10:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gazas
When do you assume the next video will come up Shadow?


I've got the same question, the first one taught me the jump to camo in The Pit from start, and how to betray my brother with a cone. :-)
As for whoever was saying Tyrant only plays Campaign he's wrong, he just doesn't play Ranked because he already had a 50 but got a load of crap about it so he deleted the account. But as for Social he definitely plays that and does it quite well too. He's a damn good team mate to have when playing Social Skirmish.

  • 02.11.2009 10:22 AM PDT
Subject: My Tips To Help You Reach 50! (Now With Video!)

I put the laughter in manslaughter

the lone wolves KoTH and the 2v2 The Pit links do not work, but great advice!

  • 02.11.2009 10:28 AM PDT
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nice thread

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dying is your latest fashion..

While not having read this thread until now....

Im just here to tell you guys that the man is right. Most of the things he stated i used, and i went from a brig grade 3 with 2700+ exp, to a 50 in about a week.

So just don't give up =]

  • 02.11.2009 10:56 AM PDT
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Good stuff.

  • 02.11.2009 3:37 PM PDT
Subject: My Tips To Help You Reach 50!

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
In-Game Lessons
Mythic Conqueror of Halo 3 (#16) & Reach (#14)
Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.

Posted by: MATCLAN
Posted by: Gazas
When do you assume the next video will come up Shadow?


I've got the same question, the first one taught me the jump to camo in The Pit from start, and how to betray my brother with a cone. :-)


As far as the video goes, it all depends. I planned on having it out saturday night, as a little "valentines day present", but late last night, my aunt passed away due to cancer, and it'll all depend on if I decide to go to the funeral or not. My biggest problem is missing classes. I already have to miss a few classes in April due to the MLG Meadowlands event, and I dont know if I can spare more days missed.

Posted by: MrNinjaPants852
While not having read this thread until now....

Im just here to tell you guys that the man is right. Most of the things he stated i used, and i went from a brig grade 3 with 2700+ exp, to a 50 in about a week.

So just don't give up =]


Thanks for the read! Yep, I was a Brig grade 2 before I got my 50. That just goes to show that you dont need to resort to second accounts, as many will tell you. You just cant give up!

  • 02.12.2009 8:27 AM PDT