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Subject: My Tips To Help You Reach 50!

This is a good thread OP, i don't have time to read it now but I am bookmarking this page =)

i may be at level 48 and have gotten there by myself playing with randoms in team slayer but I bet there are still some useful tips I can pull out of this. Thanks for posting =)

  • 04.25.2009 3:56 PM PDT
Subject: My Tips To Help You Reach 50! (Now With Video!)

this is so helpful

  • 04.25.2009 10:24 PM PDT
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i follow your tips but yeah what do i do when i get bad teamates all the time ? help !

  • 04.25.2009 10:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: ChAsEthaoffical
i follow your tips but yeah what do i do when i get bad teamates all the time ? help !

I know I'm no 50 but that's an easy one to solve in theory but not so much in practice. What you want to do is find teammates who you can count on which are about your level in your select playlist and take it form there. Otherwise you just hope you don't get quitters etc.

  • 04.26.2009 6:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: MATCLAN
I've been tryign out some of those jumps, I can do the Elbow to S1 easily and the S3 to S1 if I can line myself up. I think I've done the Bottom Gold to Top Gold a couple of times in the past too. The Top Mid to Snipe Lift was also easy to pull off.
Obviously the video will be easier to follow with a voiceover explaining the moves in more detail.


Oh, did you download the video I sent you? Yeah, the video will also break down each jump and show where to look, how to line yourself up, how fast to go, etc.

For all those who are wondering what I'm talking about, you can download a sneak peak at my upcoming "Pro Jump" episode of My Tips To Reach 50 from my fileshare, located here-

Guardian: Pro Jumps

It is a non-stop capture of every jump on Guardian including S3-S1, S2-S1 (3 ways), Elbow to S1, S1-S2, Gold 1-Gold2, Bottom Mid-Top Mid, and Top-Mid-Sniper Life.

Again, the camera doesn't stop, showing you that you can practice these jumps enough to get them on the fly. Many other videos will edit and cut to the 1 out of 10 tries they took to get the jump.

Stay tuned for full video coming soon. Stay classy, bnet.

  • 04.26.2009 3:02 PM PDT
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It failed to download but I'll give it another try later.

You what you should do, you should make a map, very small, that's dedicated to four shooting and BRing + Strafing in general. Like Octagon, maybe bigger and some pillars and walls.

  • 04.26.2009 3:06 PM PDT

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My Tips To Reach 50!
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Posted by: Gazas
It failed to download but I'll give it another try later.

You what you should do, you should make a map, very small, that's dedicated to four shooting and BRing + Strafing in general. Like Octagon, maybe bigger and some pillars and walls.


I actually have one that I got from Team Classic, which is of Guardian, with all doorways blocked off, and spawns just in the middle. Starting weapons are BR and Sniper, so it focuses on BRing, Strafing, Sniping, No scoping, and spawn camping.

I can get a download for it in a bit.

  • 04.27.2009 9:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: Gazas
It failed to download but I'll give it another try later.

You what you should do, you should make a map, very small, that's dedicated to four shooting and BRing + Strafing in general. Like Octagon, maybe bigger and some pillars and walls.


I actually have one that I got from Team Classic, which is of Guardian, with all doorways blocked off, and spawns just in the middle. Starting weapons are BR and Sniper, so it focuses on BRing, Strafing, Sniping, No scoping, and spawn camping.

I can get a download for it in a bit.


I have a feeling I'd be able to benefit from it if only 90% of my friends list weren't infection addicts...
Also I noticed in your video that some of your jumps are only possible with the extra 10% speed granted from playing an MLG gametype. Most of the important ones still work though, unless I'm doing something wrong. :-P

Also with regard to Guardian on default setting my brother and I were recently experimenting with what one willing team mate with a Hammer can do when you view the Hammer as transport assissting equipment rather than a weapon. The results are rather interesting to say the least. (S3 to Snipe Lift being one jump made possible by this launch). Also both players' shields are unnaffected which is a miracle in itself.

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Posted by: MATCLAN
I have a feeling I'd be able to benefit from it if only 90% of my friends list weren't infection addicts...
I'm with you here, when I have a desire to play some MLG with friends for BR training, they want to play Infection with like 3 players.

  • 04.27.2009 9:48 AM PDT

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Posted by: MATCLAN
Also I noticed in your video that some of your jumps are only possible with the extra 10% speed granted from playing an MLG gametype. Most of the important ones still work though, unless I'm doing something wrong. :-P


I can do all those jumps in the video in normal TS gametype as well, except the S3 to Snipe Lift jump. Although, that jump is only good to get a higher view over at Green... so it's not too important. I used the MLG gametype cuz I'm just more used to it. But I do think the speed increase helps, so it's deffinitely harder on normal settings.

  • 04.28.2009 8:37 AM PDT

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That was the jump I was refferring to.
Currently the only ones I can't seem to handle are the bottom gold to top gold (done it a few times but can't get it down pefectly) and the extremely sly technique of stealing the Camo to Top mid lift's propulsion from below.

  • 05.05.2009 10:05 AM PDT
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here's a tip: hop in my backpack. seriously at the 48-50 i shouldn't be going +8 every game.

there's also a reason you're still not a 50 at this point.

  • 05.05.2009 10:14 AM PDT
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This is SO true. I myself speaking from experience have a fifty without the use of this guide. Having had difficulty getting to my fifty this guide would have been extremly useful especially at the start instead of learning this stuff the hard way.

  • 05.05.2009 10:53 AM PDT

Yield to me!

here a tip for an easy quick 50

1. gather a team of 4
2. all buy new accounts
3. all change your model to elite
4. play MM in swat for a little bit
5. brag about your "legit" 50

[Edited on 05.05.2009 11:00 AM PDT]

  • 05.05.2009 10:58 AM PDT
Subject: My Tips To Help You Reach 50!

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  • 05.05.2009 11:12 AM PDT

Only the strong gain nothing, for if you gain nothing, then there is nothing to lose! fortunate for me... lives are unlimited on halo.

Hey man, ive been trying to get my 50 for a long time now, I see some people who had brig. gen. and they still got gen. so I know its not impossible for those who are brig. gen. so keep trying!

Whoever posted this, I ask permission to post it on my weekly update on my clan page, you will get full kudos... none to me at all!

i will link the thread there, just pvt msg me with an answer, thanks, you rock!

p.s. not many 50s give out good advice, its rare and i thank you for the great contribution to bungie and halo 3.

TU Black Tiger

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Posted by: SHADOWSTRIKE10
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Since this is bungie.net, its only a matter of time til somebody comes and insults you for not being a 50 and making this thread. But Im not that person. Good thread and good luck getting your 50 in the future


actually this is my main account, but i have another which i got to 50 on (it was when making new accounts was cool and the thing to do) and then i decided it was stupid cuz all it did was get me a 50, yet i lost all my gamerscore and my friends list...

But thanks for being understanding and a good person. :)


Yea i remember everybody made new accounts, it was ridiculous. I eventually got my 50, but I lost most of my live friends. In the end, it just wasn't worth it.

  • 05.05.2009 4:20 PM PDT
Subject: My Tips To Help You Reach 50! (Now With Video!)

Halo Tips-
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My Tips To Reach 50!
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Posted by: Klah Kmou
Hey man, ive been trying to get my 50 for a long time now, I see some people who had brig. gen. and they still got gen. so I know its not impossible for those who are brig. gen. so keep trying!

Whoever posted this, I ask permission to post it on my weekly update on my clan page, you will get full kudos... none to me at all!

i will link the thread there, just pvt msg me with an answer, thanks, you rock!

p.s. not many 50s give out good advice, its rare and i thank you for the great contribution to bungie and halo 3.

TU Black Tiger


Yeah sure, go ahead. I also just did an interview for Universal Halo and I think the "101st Batallion" or whatever? Whichever one was featured a few weeks back that had numbers in their name. So those who are members of them will see something pop up there.

[Edited on 05.06.2009 8:52 AM PDT]

  • 05.06.2009 8:46 AM PDT

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Posted by: ll Lil Jc ll
get br (got 2 have the br) and get snipe or rocks if u can, and try 2 play smart and dont do stupid stuff. thats my advice so dont go hatin on it.


It is VERY important to keep control of the power weapons. It's also good to keep a timer on them. I thought I'd take the time to explain weapon spawn times, ala matchmaking.

In normal matchmaking (not MLG), weapons have their own pre-determined spawn times, depending on map. Most of the time, Rockets is 3:00, Sniper is 2:00, Camo is 3:00, and Overshield is 3:00.

Now, for Camo and Overshield, it will respawn exactly 3:00 after it is picked up. This means, if you touch Camo at 11:50, you'd best be there at 8:50.

Weapons are a little different. Weapons will stay where they are put until picked up. Now, the respawn timer will not start until the person wielding the weapon stands still for TWO seconds. Exactly 2. This means, if you pick up Sniper, the timer will not start it's countdown till you stand in place for those 2 seconds. You can use this timing to your advantage, and maybe put it at an easier time to remember, such as 8:00 exactly.

Let's put together a scenario. You run over and pick up Overshield at 11:24. You then make your way to Sniper, and pick it up at 10:57. You keep running without stopping, and then stand still on S3 with sniper from 10:22 - 10:20.

Can you guess what will happen? Overshield will respawn at 8:24, and Sniper will respawn at 8:20.

EDIT: Here is a list of weapon respawn times.

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  • 05.09.2009 7:44 PM PDT
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Finally I get the system! Thanks a lot for that information bro.

  • 05.10.2009 3:45 AM PDT

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That explains a lot. I would never have expected weapons to only respawn after the wielder stands still. Now I know how my weapon timing can be off for a while.
Also should I presume that if the person who picked up a weapon did not stop moving that the respawn timer for that weapon would start two seconds after he dies?

  • 05.10.2009 4:09 AM PDT

Halo Tips-
My Tips To Reach Onyx!
My Tips To Reach 50!
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Onyx Top 1% - #6 in the world (S4), #9 (S5)
Given Recon by Bungie June, 2009.

Posted by: MATCLAN
That explains a lot. I would never have expected weapons to only respawn after the wielder stands still. Now I know how my weapon timing can be off for a while.
Also should I presume that if the person who picked up a weapon did not stop moving that the respawn timer for that weapon would start two seconds after he dies?


That's where it gets difficult. The timer will start 2 seconds after the weapon STOPS on the ground.

So, lets say your on The Pit, and rushing rockets, and the enemy picks up the rockets at 11:18, and is running back, but you grenade him, obviously things are going to go flying. The rocket launcher will probably skid across the ground a little bit. So lets say you've got a good eye, and notice it stand still on the ground at 11:10. The rocket will respawn at 8:10. When it gets difficult like that, I just try to get a good estimation of when they'll be up, and then time them on the spawn.

MLG uses Drop Spawns. This means, the weapon actually spawns in mid air, which moves the weapon, and it will then start it's countdown 2 seconds after is it still on the ground.

If everything goes smooth, here are the times for weapon spawns on MLG settings:

15 Minute Games
15:00 - Rockets & Sniper
12:26 - Sniper
11:56 - Rockets
9:53 - Sniper
8:53 - Rocket
7:20 - Sniper
5:50 - Rocket
4:47 - Sniper
2:47 - Rocket
2:14 - Sniper

30 Minute Game
30:00 - Rocket & Sniper
27:26 - Sniper
26:56 - Rocket
24:53 - Sniper
23:53 - Rocket
22:20 - Sniper
20:50 - Rocket
19:47 - Sniper
17:47 - Rocket
17:14 - Sniper
14:44 - Rocket
14:41 - Sniper
12:08 - Sniper (Watch out, sniper spawns twice before rocket)
11:41 - Rocket
9:35 - Sniper
8:38 - Rocket
7:02 - Sniper
5:35 - Rocket
4:29 - Sniper
2:32 - Rocket
1:56 - Sniper

When I was learning to memorize these times, I made a type of box-chart time table thing that showed all the times, and what weapon, and taped it to the top and bottom of my screen. It really helped me learn.

Here's a quick Q&A-

Q: What are Drop Spawns?
A: Halo 3's weapon respawns are set based on when the weapon was picked up. Back in Halo 1 & 2, weapons always had a deterimined spawn time. Rockets were always at 12:30, 10:00, 7:30, 5:00, etc. MLG uses Forge to mimic these STATIC spawn times by placing weapons on boxes, and then deleting the box to make the weapon drop for a short time, activating it's spawn counter, similar to how if you die while running with the weapon, and you have to see when the weapon stops in normal matchmaking.

Q: Why do the weapons sometimes not spawn at these times?
A: Well, weapons have to drop from a certain height to activate the spawn timer. Now, if the weapon is picked up before it hits the ground, say someone is waiting on the spawn counting down, then the spawn timer will not activate until they hold still for 2 seconds. This is called Dirtying the spawn. You can do this to your advantage, to control spawn times. However, it can get sort of confusing.

Sweet.

  • 05.11.2009 9:07 AM PDT

Still active? Wow.

Also, that post about weapon spawns, thanks. I really never knew that 2 second thing.

Now I understand a bit on why Standoff can sometimes have 2 lasers. At least, I think I understand.

  • 05.11.2009 9:14 AM PDT

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Still active? Wow.

Also, that post about weapon spawns, thanks. I really never knew that 2 second thing.

Now I understand a bit on why Standoff can sometimes have 2 lasers. At least, I think I understand.


Yeah. I try to be there as long as there are questions.

Yeah, there is no maximum weapon on map limit for that laser, and I think the laser is on a 3:00 timer, so after they book it back to their base and hold still with that laser, another will pop up in 3 minutes. Hell, it's possible to arm your whole team with lasers if the match is slow enough.

  • 05.11.2009 9:27 AM PDT