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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update: 3/21/08

Bathed In Blood, Crowned In Glory

Someone email me the name of that house level, that level looks hot.

  • 03.22.2008 7:13 PM PDT

I am a living poison. A soul so black and withered and tainted by pain and hatred that it consumes my very being. Do not test me; If I strike, my venom will surely kill you before you can open your mouth to cry for help.

Posted by: jwg31
Why do people always bring up this "but a movie ticket cost 10 dollars" argument, when it comes to DLC.

How many movies cost you around 65 dollars, plus an additional 10 dollars to see? That's right, none. This comparison is stupid and needs to die.

Having said that, I think the two new maps you guys have shown so far look great. When Lockout (or Midship) shows up this coming Tuesday, I'll take the plunge and pay the extra 10 for these maps when they're available.

One potential problem: if (and that's the keyword "IF") these maps are never free, that's going to really screw up matchmaking. You're going to have people who pay for maps not get to enjoy them that much if they're never properly implemented into matchmaking the way the current 3 DLC maps are going to be.





First off, you don't pay $65 for a movie because it isn't interactive and it doesn't play differently every single time you watch it (which likely means you'll get a lot fewer hours of enjoyment too, unless you're a nut for repetition). Secondly, if you want the additional "Special Features" and such that are released after the initial movie, you're going to pay more than $10 for the DVD. Looking at it that way, I think it's a perfectly valid argument, don't you?

  • 03.22.2008 7:54 PM PDT

I am a living poison. A soul so black and withered and tainted by pain and hatred that it consumes my very being. Do not test me; If I strike, my venom will surely kill you before you can open your mouth to cry for help.

Posted by: I 7alon I
The map looks awesome, but I disagree with the pricing. Halo has 11 maps for proper matchmaking atm. Thats far too few and its going to take light years to get all the decent maps into matchmaking, due to the fact half the damn community refuses to pay 800 points.


Did you know that a light-year is actually a measure of distance, not time?

  • 03.22.2008 8:08 PM PDT

I am a living poison. A soul so black and withered and tainted by pain and hatred that it consumes my very being. Do not test me; If I strike, my venom will surely kill you before you can open your mouth to cry for help.

Posted by: Styles P
That Sidewinder to Avalanche picture just reminded me how much better Halo 1 looked compared to 3...


Are you retarded?

  • 03.22.2008 8:13 PM PDT

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i completely agree i payed money for these maps and i only had them for about 2 weeks then now i figured out they will be free. so i basically wasted money for something i could have waited and gotten for free.

Although i played on them before some people i agree that we should get at least half of our points back.


Hmm, so you're saying that when I bought Heroic back in December that I wasted money on something I could've gotten for free if I'd waited? Or how about Killtacular, Maptacular and Blastacular map packs for Halo 2? Bungie said with each of these releases that eventually the maps would be free. It doesn't take much reading to get educated on these things (with anything else, you should know what it is that you're buying before you buy it). Yes, they were a little less clear about when Heroic would become free, but they did say eventually the maps would be free. I bought the maps knowing full well that I could've gotten them for free later on. I don't feel the least bit bad for those that bought the maps two weeks ago or even this Monday night (North America).

Moving along to the update itself...

What I really have a problem with is the part "We are currently unaware of any plans" for the Legendary pack to become free. What does that spell, kids? Microsoft is putting their foot down as publisher. The Legendary map pack will probably never be free. This is bad. For anyone that bought Heroic the day it was released knows that the maps came up very rarely in regular matchmaking (outside the DLC playlist[s]). It's bad for the same reason that when you buy Forza DLC (or something similar) you will run into problems finding others with the same DLC unless they're on your friends list. Yes, Bungie is going to give people special weekend playlists and the DLC playlist, but its going to do nothing more than segment the Halo 3 population OR make our Legendary purchase not worthwhile.

What made Killtacular, Maptacular and Blastacular so special was that eventually they would be free and people would be required to download the maps and everyone would have a great variety of maps to play on. Now Microsoft is saying they want to squeeze every last red cent out of people for this map pack, and then still not even make it a requirement to the play the game? In my opinion, the hardcore people that will pay for it are going to pay for it within the usual 3 month period after release. Others will wait till it becomes free. The people that won't buy it because they're cheap are not going to wait several months down the road after having the game for a year and a half then just up and decide to buy it.

Please let this opinion be known to your Masters, Bungie. Is this how they're punishing you for escaping to the underground railroad and going to the North? By punishing us? The people that have been supporting (and BUYING) the DLC from the get?

EDIT: Whoops, my bad. I forgot the Bonus map pack (Halo 2) was free from the beginning.


I wish more people would look at your post.

I for the record bought every DLC for Halo 2. However, I for one haven't bought the first DLC, and I haven't played Halo 3 in quite a while and I was looking forward to being able to be update with the rest of the population, but I won't pay more than $2 per map. Thats my limit I refuse to pay upkeeping costs to enjoy a game.

Every other DLC that I can think of said they will be free in the future, this to me says that they will not be free no matter how much I wait. This is a complete shot in the gut, when the property holder can not determine the cost of DLC, there is a problem. I for one will not buy nor put in Halo 3 until I know that these will be free in the future. So your support by following my lead.

EDIT......

I wish to make it clear I make 90,000+ a year, so I am no way too "cheap" to buy the new maps, I feel that I should get what I pay for.

And the fact that they said that this content is not currently being planned to be free should worry everyone, since M$ is gorging everyone to pay for "premium content", in every game if the publishers want it or not.


The fact that is was made clear that “We didn’t set the price? If that didn’t settle in” let me tell you whats to follow, every single game that goes platinum their DLC will be priced at 800 MS points or $10. I fell that every publisher should determine their price not M$.

I am looking forward to the push that Valve has put on M$ saying we want our DLC to be free, we will see what M$ wants to put it up for though.


800 points anyone????????


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  • 03.22.2008 8:14 PM PDT
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AGREED!!!!

Bungie thank you so much for swat!!!! I kneel down to you! make it forever though!

  • 03.22.2008 9:13 PM PDT

What's up? I'm Anthony, from Maryland. I play a lot of video games, too many. Enjoying the Halo Reach Beat right now. Also Halo was kind of my life from the age of 11-14.

Man I can't wait.

  • 03.22.2008 9:14 PM PDT
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Crap! I just bought them! Why couldn't you have told me earlier?

  • 03.22.2008 10:33 PM PDT

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Sean: Hey Tre whats the answer to number 4
Me:RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Sean:ok...you the A student..."Raaaaaaaaaaah" right?

hornet...and banshee?!! bungie will you have my babies

  • 03.22.2008 10:40 PM PDT
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Looks like a great new map. And yeah Heroic Maps are going to be free now. great work guys! Keep it up!

  • 03.23.2008 1:09 AM PDT

great vid! i luv owning noobz, no w8, pwning is better, n w8 both r best

  • 03.23.2008 2:53 AM PDT

Bathed In Blood, Crowned In Glory

Yeah, Swat gametype is the -blam!-.

  • 03.23.2008 4:49 AM PDT

Bathed In Blood, Crowned In Glory

All the people that go "Oh no, i just bought it" are RETARDED. The levels came out months ago, and your just getting them now? And then complaining that they didnt tell you the levels would be free, but if you go back a couple months and look at the posts and -blam!-, THEY DID. PLUS, They always make the levels free after a while. The Movie tickets and the video game comparison have NOTHING to do with eachother. Weve always had to pay way more for the interactive one anyway, stop complaining, shut up, and have some fun! It's only 10 dollars anyway. who DOESNT have 10 dollars to spend for more halo levels?

  • 03.23.2008 4:55 AM PDT
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I respect your opinion, I'm probably just going to disagree with it.

Heh. Is this 'Weekend Warriors' theme perhaps a hint to an ancient game developed by Pangea and published by Bungie?
;-)

  • 03.23.2008 6:07 AM PDT

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Thanks...

For some reason this update seemed less of an update, and more of what we were already thinking...

  • 03.23.2008 8:08 AM PDT

Is the SWAT playlist already taken down??? It's Sunday morning and I cant access it. I was really excited about playing SWAT in Halo 3! Why would they remove it before the weekend is over?

  • 03.23.2008 8:31 AM PDT
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i could not find this more annoying...i just bought the heroic pack today, then i go on the bungie website and bang! i find ive just wasted 800 points on something thats going to be free in 2 days! i know it's not bungies fault, but still...

  • 03.23.2008 8:33 AM PDT
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Cool, my birthday is the day the Heroic maps are free, the 25th!

  • 03.23.2008 8:57 AM PDT
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Oh ho ho ho! I cannot wait for Foundry, I have quite a few ideas.

  • 03.23.2008 9:04 AM PDT
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Jason

Sweeetness, free maps.. Team Swat's the best. It should be permanent!!

correction, no more swat. Now theirs nothing fun.

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  • 03.23.2008 10:00 AM PDT
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If you think nobody cares about you, miss some car payments.
Hard work never hurt anyone, but why take the chance.
The first sign of maturity is that the volume knob also turns to the left.

New Gamertag and profile: SHENANIGANS4780

Since it seems that the account didn't transfer, that's my new account everyone.

wiil you be able to have a party of two or more for the Double XP weekend FFA?

  • 03.23.2008 10:01 AM PDT

NiNjA AlLiAnCe

ok if i bought my extra heroic map packs yesterday march 22 can i get my money back for the maps i bought yesterday?

  • 03.23.2008 10:35 AM PDT
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That looks like...Sidewinder!!!!

  • 03.23.2008 10:40 AM PDT
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Sorry bungie for all these poor lazy kids complaining and wanting a refund...It is 10$ get a job work for an hour...If you work at minimum wage then work for 2 hours...Do you people think that the artists and designers dont get paid?? Get real.

Avalanche looks cool, I like how the covies team on one sided objective games gets a closer shot at the laser.

[Edited on 03.23.2008 10:59 AM PDT]

  • 03.23.2008 10:56 AM PDT