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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update: 3/21/08

Posted by: lukems
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Nice update. Those Top 10 clips are all amazing.

P.S. - The "favorite things" youtube video is non-existent.


The YouTube video keeps going up and down. Sounds like a YouTube issue.


zee oh em gee. i haz first post on fourth page1!!!! I are teh awesome!!!!!!

Seriously... I don't think anyone cares about what number post you are and on what page. See how foolish you look? See the underlined text above.

AND WTF IS LUKEMS DOING READING THE FORUMS! THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!! Bungie isn't supposed to care about these posts... I think my mind just exploded.

[Edited on 03.21.2008 6:50 PM PDT]

  • 03.21.2008 6:49 PM PDT

if knowledge is power and power corrupts, isn't knowledge therefore dangerous?
Black Tower

sweet, can't wait to see if i was right about moonlight being a night map or not
hopefully bungie won't delay the pics again >.>

  • 03.21.2008 6:51 PM PDT
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The Team SWAT playlist was a colossal disappointment. In Halo 2, there were no grenades in Team SWAT for a good reason. They defeat the purpose of the gametype. The bubble shield also makes for HORRIBLE gameplay whenever there's any amount of latency. The spawn system is pretty rough, and in Team SWAT it's a serious problem. Because of bad spawns and shield door and bubble shield problems caused by latency, you can really drop dead at any time and any place regardless of how intelligently you're playing and how well you can aim. I hate to bash Bungie because they usually do a good job with everything, but the setup for the Team SWAT playlist was really half-assed.

  • 03.21.2008 6:54 PM PDT

love the overveiw of avelanche. Cant wait till tuesday when the last map is shown

  • 03.21.2008 7:03 PM PDT

Join Men of War.

Yes get the heroic map pack for free then go by the legendary.

  • 03.21.2008 7:05 PM PDT

Dont make me take off my belt!
It was my idea for the "New Teabag" of punching someone in the head with the armor lock.

dont mention recon because you wont get it

  • 03.21.2008 7:09 PM PDT
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I wish we could get some sort of refund. The xbox live marketplace doesn't let you refund, or trade downloaded content. I guess because if you could refund your downloaded purchases you would just keep refunding and buying new items. Though if we bought the maps and the maps we bought were going to be free in a couple months, we should get a refund, or at least half of the points back.

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  • 03.21.2008 7:10 PM PDT
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I couldn't agree more with the guy above me. My patience paid off, I held off on buying the Heroic DLC and now I can get it for free in 4 days. Thanks Bungie!! Oh yeah, I like the Team SWAT plenty of noobs about but fun none the less, a lot more strategy needed and a quicker trigger figger. I will probably end up buying the Legendary map pack when it comes out too, I'm guessing there will be a dedicated playlist for that when it comes out, no?

  • 03.21.2008 7:11 PM PDT

The human vs. covenant vehicle setup looks unfair for CTF. The human side has all the vehicles with a passenger seat.

  • 03.21.2008 7:15 PM PDT

avalanche looks awesome....can't wait to play ctf, assault and infection on that one
oh and btw, it seems from the scale of the vehicles on the picture that avalanche is even bigger than sandtrap (which would make it even more awesome) - can anyone at bungie confirm this? oh and i hope you can forge the gauss warthog with snow camo onto avalanche

@ the dude above me: yeah you know the human side is the attacking one, they need to transport the flag whereas the covenant side doesn't need to transport anything
but i must admit, i would have liked seeing 2 spectres instead of the choppers...i miss these damn things *sniff*
hell, i would have even taken a prowler or two before the choppers so we finally see it in MM...anyway, i'm happy to see hornet and scorpion in matchmaking, a spectre/prowler would just have been the cherry on the cake

ps: hey bungie, what about jungle/desert/swamp camo for the vehicles on future maps? i would definitely love to see some more camo types or at least the snow camo on another map (containment anyone?)

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  • 03.21.2008 7:16 PM PDT
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Making Heroic free before the Legendary release is something we have been saying over and over since day one. Even the official MSFT press release for the Heroic maps stated this. I realize that not everyone gets that message and some people will inevitably get caught buying the maps on the eve of their free release but sadly there's nothing we can really do to fully prevent that. We are still very happy to be able to offer these Heroic maps for free to all of our fans though.

We really appreciate all the pepole who opted to buy them early and support Halo 3 and Bungie.

To everyone else, get ready, they will be yours on Tuesday. In the meantime, try some SWAT action.

  • 03.21.2008 7:17 PM PDT
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for the people who already bought the heroic maps do they get the legendary half off or free or something cause thats not really fair for the people who already bought the maps they want something for free to!!

  • 03.21.2008 7:20 PM PDT

let it be known to anyone who kills me that i will burn your house in your sleep. so don't kill me =)

i completely agree i payed money for these maps and i only had them for about 2 weeks then now i figured out they will be free. so i basically wasted money for something i could have waited and gotten for free.

Although i played on them before some people i agree that we should get at least half of our points back.

  • 03.21.2008 7:22 PM PDT
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awsome pics but what is with the splazer, shotgun, and a few other weapons placement on the map?

YEAH!!! 4th page.......just mixing it up

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  • 03.21.2008 7:24 PM PDT
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"The empires of the future are the empires of the mind" ~Winston Churchill

i bought the heroic maps and now they're going to be free? well aint that a -blam!-...

  • 03.21.2008 7:30 PM PDT

Get ready for more Tuesday insanity...

Good God are we ready for another riot like that.

  • 03.21.2008 7:31 PM PDT
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to bad i already have the maps

  • 03.21.2008 7:39 PM PDT
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True dat, I just bought my Heroic Maps like a week ago, lol.

  • 03.21.2008 7:40 PM PDT

That "Favorite Things" video is awesome.

  • 03.21.2008 7:42 PM PDT
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Avalanche > Sidewinder anyday.

I am so impressed with the pictures and I was wondering if more snow maps were coming because they are my favorite.

Heroic map pack sold over a million copies, so it was a success. I predict 1.3 million copies of legondary (especially if lockout is next!)


I'm getting my xbox back from ring of death and the first thing I'm doing is buying these maps.

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  • 03.21.2008 7:44 PM PDT

Nice.

  • 03.21.2008 7:48 PM PDT
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Can't wait till Avalanche.

  • 03.21.2008 7:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Oofthka
i completely agree i payed money for these maps and i only had them for about 2 weeks then now i figured out they will be free. so i basically wasted money for something i could have waited and gotten for free.

Although i played on them before some people i agree that we should get at least half of our points back.


Hmm, so you're saying that when I bought Heroic back in December that I wasted money on something I could've gotten for free if I'd waited? Or how about Killtacular, Maptacular and Blastacular map packs for Halo 2? Bungie said with each of these releases that eventually the maps would be free. It doesn't take much reading to get educated on these things (with anything else, you should know what it is that you're buying before you buy it). Yes, they were a little less clear about when Heroic would become free, but they did say eventually the maps would be free. I bought the maps knowing full well that I could've gotten them for free later on. I don't feel the least bit bad for those that bought the maps two weeks ago or even this Monday night (North America).

Moving along to the update itself...

What I really have a problem with is the part "We are currently unaware of any plans" for the Legendary pack to become free. What does that spell, kids? Microsoft is putting their foot down as publisher. The Legendary map pack will probably never be free. This is bad. For anyone that bought Heroic the day it was released knows that the maps came up very rarely in regular matchmaking (outside the DLC playlist[s]). It's bad for the same reason that when you buy Forza DLC (or something similar) you will run into problems finding others with the same DLC unless they're on your friends list. Yes, Bungie is going to give people special weekend playlists and the DLC playlist, but its going to do nothing more than segment the Halo 3 population OR make our Legendary purchase not worthwhile.

What made Killtacular, Maptacular and Blastacular so special was that eventually they would be free and people would be required to download the maps and everyone would have a great variety of maps to play on. Now Microsoft is saying they want to squeeze every last red cent out of people for this map pack, and then still not even make it a requirement to the play the game? In my opinion, the hardcore people that will pay for it are going to pay for it within the usual 3 month period after release. Others will wait till it becomes free. The people that won't buy it because they're cheap are not going to wait several months down the road after having the game for a year and a half then just up and decide to buy it.

Please let this opinion be known to your Masters, Bungie. Is this how they're punishing you for escaping to the underground railroad and going to the North? By punishing us? The people that have been supporting (and BUYING) the DLC from the get?

EDIT: Whoops, my bad. I forgot the Bonus map pack (Halo 2) was free from the beginning.

[Edited on 03.21.2008 7:58 PM PDT]

  • 03.21.2008 7:49 PM PDT

Angle 3 looks wrong. Should be opposite, on the other side of the offense open ground outside the base, me thinks.

Awesome update, anyway. Sorry to be picky.

[Edited on 03.21.2008 7:56 PM PDT]

  • 03.21.2008 7:55 PM PDT