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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update: 3/21/08

Add me for H3 or H2.
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And make us lose the good we oft might win
By fearing to attempt."

William Shakespeare,
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I have this bad feeling right now that the 'universally adored' map from the Legendary pack is Sidewinder. While Sidewinder might be great for some things, I sincerely hope that next Tuesday proves me wrong. Lockout/Remakes/New Arena Map FTW please.

  • 03.22.2008 11:45 AM PDT

Posted by: II brycerton II
I have this bad feeling right now that the 'universally adored' map from the Legendary pack is Sidewinder. While Sidewinder might be great for some things, I sincerely hope that next Tuesday proves me wrong. Lockout/Remakes/New Arena Map FTW please.

I'm pretty sure Frankie made that "universally adored" comment specifically about Moonlight Sonata. Besides they stated in the official press release that Moonlight Sonata was a "smaller, Slayer" map so there you go.

  • 03.22.2008 12:04 PM PDT
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The maps look awesome! but the only thing that I'm not likeing is that the heroic maps will be free, I just bought then and I'm just wondering, will I get a refund? Because even though the heroic maps are sweet, I would still want a refund if they are going to be free. But you know, I'm just another guy out there in the Halo 3 Xbox live universe, with my own ideas and sugestions. Not much more from here. Bananular Men, out. *powering down noise*

  • 03.22.2008 12:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Bananular men
The maps look awesome! but the only thing that I'm not likeing is that the heroic maps will be free, I just bought then and I'm just wondering, will I get a refund? Because even though the heroic maps are sweet, I would still want a refund if they are going to be free. But you know, I'm just another guy out there in the Halo 3 Xbox live universe, with my own ideas and sugestions. Not much more from here. Bananular Men, out. *powering down noise*


Sorry guys! I used my obsolete account that I made a mistake on! sorry! this is the real Bananular men, once again sorry!

  • 03.22.2008 12:54 PM PDT

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I'm never going to pay for extra maps. Ever.


If you want me playing the game make all new updates and such free.

But to heck with paying for extra maps, this game has other games to compete with for playing time.

  • 03.22.2008 1:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Heroic Elite 07
The Scorpion will destory the Wraith,the Warthog is better than the Chopper,and there are two Mongosses. The human side is too strong. Edit:Especially on flag,the human vehicles have passenger seats.


Okay, I don't know if you're just confused here or what, but the human vehicles are for the attacking team. To be more clear, they're for the team trying to steal the flag or plant the bomb. Attacking team having Covie only vehicles makes no sense. Everyone else would take off in the Ghosts, Chopppers, and Banshee, while the bomb carrier has to run it on foot across this big map? Or when someone gets the flag they have to run it all the way back to their base on foot, while the rest of team is running around in Ghosts and Banshee's, AND avoiding get mowed down by the other team that's all on vehicles? That would be incredibly unfair. Ever tried running a flag in a BTB game on Sandtrap? It's hard enough now trying to do it on foot. Now just imagine there being no human vehicles at all to make it easier. Getting constantly mowed down by all those Ghosts and Choppers, or bombed by the Banshee. Yeah, not a pretty thought is it?

That is why attacking team has to have human vehicles. Get it now? Hopefully you were just confused, and not one of those players that thinks the attacking team should have zero chance of doing anything. We don't need people like that.

  • 03.22.2008 1:36 PM PDT

I hope Moonlight Sonata has the ability to put at least one pelican, phantom, AA wraith and a transport hog on forge/custom games

  • 03.22.2008 1:47 PM PDT

Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
I hope Moonlight Sonata has the ability to put at least one pelican, phantom, AA wraith and a transport hog on forge/custom games
god, why do people want a Pelican in multiplayer? unless the map is riduculously huge (Blood Gultch+Sandtrap+Avalanche+Valhalla huge), it wont ever get put in. Neither will the phantom, nor the AA wraith or the TT Hog. just get over it

  • 03.22.2008 2:17 PM PDT
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I do say nice work on the graphics. And the sky looks amazing so does the snow and wow you guys really put some effort into this and for that i applaud you.

  • 03.22.2008 2:34 PM PDT
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"To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."

Thanks Bungie really looking forward to this map pack.

I hope you don't mind me saying but I'm going to stick my neck out and say I think I’ve noticed a few minor things in this week update.
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid= 13399

I am referring to the plan view of Avalanche with item placement hover over, which is great by the way. I bought the Halo 3 Official Guide with my Halo3 Legendary and found the same kind of pics very useful (where can I find High-Res ones for all of the DLC maps..? please, please, please, please)

Back to my over analytical (some may say a***) view of the map detail. I have downloaded the official High-Res pics of the DLC from
http://www.bungie.net/projects/halo3/asset_thumb_viewer.aspx? at=59&cc=21
and have the following comments:

1./ Camera angle 3 - does not look as though it was taken from where you indicated - rather from the very far right of the map facing the "UNSC Base" nearby the man cannons/vents closest to the base.

2./ Avalanche pic 1 shows a Wraith, Hornet and Warthog in the "Covenant Base" which does not true up to the Placement Plan Overview.
Similarly Avalanche pic 3 shows a Scorpion, Wraith and Warthog in the "UNSC Base".

The placements should indicate as follows:
"Covenant Base" - Wraith, Banshee, Ghost, and Chopper(x2)
"UNSC Base" - Scorpion, Hornet, Warthog(x2) and Mongoose(x2)

So why the discrepancy..? Are the sceencaps Forge versions of Avalanche..? Or is one setup for "assault" and another for say "team slayer"..? I'm not an expert in these things; please can you clear this up?

3./ The vehicles don't appear the have the special wintery paint jobs that were indicated in weekly update http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid= 13368. Or is it just my eyesight getting bad...?

Also some questions:
1./ Is there a good supply of Grenades in the bases (not indicated thus far)
2./ Don't you think the range of the Scorpions main cannon will render the Wraith fairly useless other than for splattering attackers that are on foot..?
3./ I'm not sure exactly much you've knobbled the Hornet but I can still see it dishing out a good deal of air-to-surface pwnage to the "covenant side", Wouldn’t the addition of a rocket pod solve that problem somewhat..?


again - great looking DLC - can't wait

  • 03.22.2008 2:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: Kap4310
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
I hope Moonlight Sonata has the ability to put at least one pelican, phantom, AA wraith and a transport hog on forge/custom games
god, why do people want a Pelican in multiplayer? unless the map is riduculously huge (Blood Gultch+Sandtrap+Avalanche+Valhalla huge), it wont ever get put in. Neither will the phantom, nor the AA wraith or the TT Hog. just get over it


Wait a minute a transport hog is a great idea why didn't I think about that. But a pelican would be better for a forge game or custom.

  • 03.22.2008 2:38 PM PDT

Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
I hope Moonlight Sonata has the ability to put at least one pelican, phantom, AA wraith and a transport hog on forge/custom games

Now why the -blam!- would they put any of those on a 'smaller Slayer map'? Seriously guy. Think about it. Also why do people want to fly the pelican so bad? You could fly it in Halo: CE, it was like flying a goddamn brick. It would go really fast in a straight line but thats about it. Fun? Kinda. Worthless? Definitely.

  • 03.22.2008 3:18 PM PDT

Posted by: daddy I spy 007
Posted by: Kap4310
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
I hope Moonlight Sonata has the ability to put at least one pelican, phantom, AA wraith and a transport hog on forge/custom games
god, why do people want a Pelican in multiplayer? unless the map is riduculously huge (Blood Gultch+Sandtrap+Avalanche+Valhalla huge), it wont ever get put in. Neither will the phantom, nor the AA wraith or the TT Hog. just get over it


Wait a minute a transport hog is a great idea why didn't I think about that. But a pelican would be better for a forge game or custom.


The only way I could see myself enjoying the TT hog in multiplayer would be if Bungie made it possible to actually get into the back compartment (in campaign, you cant get into the back). And yes, a pelican would be good if it was available for an incredibley large map, like Hugeass for Halo: Custom Edition. But if they put in the TT hog without that change or if they put the Pelican on a map that seems too small for it, then those additions would be pointless.

Personally, I've always thought to myself that a Pelican would be cool on a map like Blood Gultch/Coagulation

  • 03.22.2008 3:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: Heroic Elite 07
The Scorpion will destory the Wraith,the Warthog is better than the Chopper,and there are two Mongosses. The human side is too strong. Edit:Especially on flag,the human vehicles have passenger seats.


Okay, I don't know if you're just confused here or what, but the human vehicles are for the attacking team. To be more clear, they're for the team trying to steal the flag or plant the bomb. Attacking team having Covie only vehicles makes no sense. Everyone else would take off in the Ghosts, Chopppers, and Banshee, while the bomb carrier has to run it on foot across this big map? Or when someone gets the flag they have to run it all the way back to their base on foot, while the rest of team is running around in Ghosts and Banshee's, AND avoiding get mowed down by the other team that's all on vehicles? That would be incredibly unfair. Ever tried running a flag in a BTB game on Sandtrap? It's hard enough now trying to do it on foot. Now just imagine there being no human vehicles at all to make it easier. Getting constantly mowed down by all those Ghosts and Choppers, or bombed by the Banshee. Yeah, not a pretty thought is it?

That is why attacking team has to have human vehicles. Get it now? Hopefully you were just confused, and not one of those players that thinks the attacking team should have zero chance of doing anything. We don't need people like that.

What about multi flag/bomb?

  • 03.22.2008 4:31 PM PDT

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  • 03.22.2008 4:34 PM PDT

I'm a serious dude, so what?

Avalanche looks awesome, but I"m a little sad that the Halo ring doesn't dominate the sky like it did in Sidewinder. I always felt like that was a cool touch which added in a level of perspective that no other game has ever really done. Everyone has clouds, but a thousand mile wide artificial construct in the sky is freeking awesome.


Good job guys,
-brady

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Short, sweet and the Heroic Maps are about to be free.


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  • 03.22.2008 4:43 PM PDT
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Does anyone know why they didn't give a paint job on the wraith. Isn't on a snow map? And what happens when snow gets on the vehicle it turns brighter just like the scorpion tank. Why Bungie, why didn't you do the covenant?"

By the way look off of the picture listed below, the wraith hasn't change a bit.
http://www.bungie.net/projects/halo3/asset_popup_viewer.aspx? at=59&cc=21&item=1

[Edited on 03.22.2008 5:08 PM PDT]

  • 03.22.2008 5:08 PM PDT

You know, I thought I was mad that I paid for the maps but that is not it at all!
I just don't want the rest of you getting it for free! Man, I am such an @######!
(I bet you 800 points I am not alone with this feeling!)

Anyway, I have already gotten the $10 worth out of the maps just playing around once in awhile with friends or locally with my kid. I will pay my ten bucks just to drive that white tank around!!

I just hope bungie is at least getting something out of all those sales.
I wouldn't want to be the one developing something like this just to hear all of the complaints.

Please throw out some armor Tchotchke or something to shut everyone up and maybe convince people to download so I can get more play on them!

Thanks for keeping up work on the maps.!

  • 03.22.2008 5:09 PM PDT

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  • 03.22.2008 5:16 PM PDT
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Here is my question for the day.... Are we going to be refunded the cost of loading the maps already? Like me for instance I just loaded them a couple of weeks ago and now they are free. Does anyone know if Bungie has any plan to refund?

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Posted by: Heroic Elite 07
Posted by: Russdogg76
Posted by: Heroic Elite 07
The Scorpion will destory the Wraith,the Warthog is better than the Chopper,and there are two Mongosses. The human side is too strong. Edit:Especially on flag,the human vehicles have passenger seats.


Okay, I don't know if you're just confused here or what, but the human vehicles are for the attacking team. To be more clear, they're for the team trying to steal the flag or plant the bomb. Attacking team having Covie only vehicles makes no sense. Everyone else would take off in the Ghosts, Chopppers, and Banshee, while the bomb carrier has to run it on foot across this big map? Or when someone gets the flag they have to run it all the way back to their base on foot, while the rest of team is running around in Ghosts and Banshee's, AND avoiding get mowed down by the other team that's all on vehicles? That would be incredibly unfair. Ever tried running a flag in a BTB game on Sandtrap? It's hard enough now trying to do it on foot. Now just imagine there being no human vehicles at all to make it easier. Getting constantly mowed down by all those Ghosts and Choppers, or bombed by the Banshee. Yeah, not a pretty thought is it?

That is why attacking team has to have human vehicles. Get it now? Hopefully you were just confused, and not one of those players that thinks the attacking team should have zero chance of doing anything. We don't need people like that.

What about multi flag/bomb?


For Multi Games they'll probably have the same vehicles for both teams. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair...

[Edited on 03.22.2008 5:29 PM PDT]

  • 03.22.2008 5:28 PM PDT
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Could Bungie put all the clips they used on the Favorites please? I'd like to look at some first hand =)

  • 03.22.2008 6:27 PM PDT

Add me for H3 or H2.
GT:: o Bryce o


"Our doubts are traitors,
And make us lose the good we oft might win
By fearing to attempt."

William Shakespeare,
Measure for Measure,
Act I, Scene IV

Thank you for assuaging my fears.


  • 03.22.2008 6:28 PM PDT

Add me for H3 or H2.
GT:: o Bryce o


"Our doubts are traitors,
And make us lose the good we oft might win
By fearing to attempt."

William Shakespeare,
Measure for Measure,
Act I, Scene IV

^^^Referencing Cadillac Ferd (2nd post on this page)^^^
Sorry for hitting post too quickly.



Posted by: Cadillac Ferd
Posted by: II brycerton II
I have this bad feeling right now that the 'universally adored' map from the Legendary pack is Sidewinder. While Sidewinder might be great for some things, I sincerely hope that next Tuesday proves me wrong. Lockout/Remakes/New Arena Map FTW please.

I'm pretty sure Frankie made that "universally adored" comment specifically about Moonlight Sonata. Besides they stated in the official press release that Moonlight Sonata was a "smaller, Slayer" map so there you go.


[Edited on 03.22.2008 6:30 PM PDT]

  • 03.22.2008 6:29 PM PDT

IM A CRAZY POLISH MAN.

are you guys gonna pick the winners from dlc tommorow just a question

  • 03.22.2008 6:30 PM PDT