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And if you think they are the same then go get map layouts for both of them and put them side by side and you will see how different they are.

  • 03.25.2008 2:05 PM PDT

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YES! Lockout! months maybe years of fun :D just make sure you put the right objects into forge. not to be pushy or anything



P.S. just for the next map pack i might throw this in there, Blood Gulch/Coagulation keep the tradition on bungie!

  • 03.25.2008 2:08 PM PDT

Soffish for everyone!

Art and Halo = my life... pretty much.

Can't wait!!!

  • 03.25.2008 2:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cowfister
why not boarding action? gaurdian is lockout damnit!


nope, nope, and nope. guardian is a COMPLETLY new map. i dont remember grav lifts taking me from one side of the map to the other on lockout, or a gravity hammer, or camo/ overshield.

  • 03.25.2008 2:09 PM PDT

Posted by: ScaleyManfish1
i guess that means 90% of halos communtiy is 12 years old
thats probably a very close figure

  • 03.25.2008 2:09 PM PDT
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This is a sig. No one looks at this. Who cares.

There. now everyone can quit whining. And i can go back to loathing this map.

I mean aside from the obvious visual difference, this doesnt look any different than Lockout, and therefore because i despise the eminet MLG gametypes on this map, i will not enjoy it because it will be overplayed. to Death...

  • 03.25.2008 2:10 PM PDT

Next map pack...Coagulation!!!, hey i can hope cant I :P

  • 03.25.2008 2:11 PM PDT
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I'm so happy I gave birth to a poop!

  • 03.25.2008 2:11 PM PDT
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YAY!!! Now Bungie just needs to make Midship on the next DLC map pack and I'll be set for life! great job guys looks great

  • 03.25.2008 2:12 PM PDT

Mixed opinion really.

I, like alot of people, loved Lockout but I was hoping for some other small map instead just because Guardian and Lockout are pretty similar. Don't get me wrong I'm stoked we got Blackout but I would have preferred for this to come out in a later pack and we get something small but completely different to Guardian, just for a change of pace.

For the positives I think this is great, we desperately needed another small map since we had like 8 medium sized maps and 5 big maps but only like 1 small map. I was initally dreading this map because from what I can remember from the description this map sounded pretty big. Also the MLG roster needed to be boosted as there are only 5 different maps in circulation currently because there are too many bigger maps in Halo 3 at the moment so I think it's great theres more variety for the competitive player.

Another good thing to note is that because you actually gave us what we asked for rather than what you think we might like, more people will actually get this pack at release rather than waiting till its free, thus meaning that more time on it in matchmaking so people don't feel like they wasted their money, and also restoring some confidence in you from the community meaning that future packs maybe obtained after release. I mean some people believed that the Heroic map pack was naff so they are pretty adamant by now that they aren't buying this one or any others (btw I love Foundary and Standoff). Maybe it should be a rule from now on to make one popular remake per pack to keep us all interested, I mean that only cuts your creativity by a third and you can still mess around designing how it should look and stuff.

Also making this map probably cut a tone of threads on the boards.

Cheers Bungie, just hoping you put Midship/Beaver Creek or some other old small map where most game types work in the next pack!!

[Edited on 03.25.2008 2:28 PM PDT]

  • 03.25.2008 2:12 PM PDT

also, this is halo 3. even if you don't think that lockout and guardian are the same, you have to admit that they are similar. and since these are 2 different games, having a similar map is good enough. you don't need a port 6 months after the game comes out. re-imagining lockout into guardian was a great move. if instead of re-making lockout as well, i think re-imagining big maps for snipers, team snipers, shotty-snipers, and pretty much all the other game types would have been more fun. like i said earlier, headlong or terminal would have been great, or 2 that i forgot like relic or burial mounds.

  • 03.25.2008 2:12 PM PDT

Well that map just looks downright sexy. Lockout is back baby.

  • 03.25.2008 2:12 PM PDT
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Guardian is a completely different map than Lockout nothing is the same except for the size.

  • 03.25.2008 2:13 PM PDT

they said that most of the jumps are still there cause a great portion of lockout was the amount of jumps that can be used to traverse quickly and sneak up on people. are you gonna be able to jump from courtyard to the top of the BR tower? jump on door frames on sniper tower? sneak around the opposite side of sniper tower on that ledge? jump from courtyard to the ramp going up to sniper spawn? i imagine that a few of these are going to be included based on what they said, but i wonder if all of these jumps are gonna be there cause i loved 'em and they made the map.

anyways this is what i have been waiting for since a few weeks after H3 came out. sooooooooooooooooo pumped for april 15th. 3 weeks left!!!

also, TEAM SNIPERS hopper is needed. TEAM SNIPERS was one of my favorite hoppers in H2. TEAM SNIPERS also needs to be up to 50 not 25. please include TEAM SNIPERS in an upcoming update. TEAM SNIPERS will no doubt be a hit.

[Edited on 03.25.2008 2:16 PM PDT]

  • 03.25.2008 2:13 PM PDT

Wooot. I'm so glad this is out.

  • 03.25.2008 2:14 PM PDT
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For once, I love Bungie. CoD4 has some comp now...

  • 03.25.2008 2:17 PM PDT
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now this is a remake finally, i h8 'inspired by' maps, like valhalla and guardian.

W00T, lol i never thought about the name of the map. Blackout = Lockout

i r dum

  • 03.25.2008 2:19 PM PDT
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OH MY BUNGIE.
idc what you call it, im still calling it lockout. cause it is after all.

1. i didnt like how u explained that the jumps were easier to make than before. =P
2. the setting, zomg, awesome! (is there falling snow??)
3. incoperate these maps in with the other playlists sooner than u did the last DLC maps, PLZZZ.
4. i love you guys, thanks.

now your making me go out to get more MSP - .-

Not first page <3

BUNDIES MCGEE - They probably wont ever give us our "TEAM SNIPERS" ever. im guessing it'll be the next double exp weekend. ;)

What they do need to bring back though it TEAM SWAT, only good hopper besides anything. XD


"Not first page" i love it.

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  • 03.25.2008 2:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: BUNDIES MCGEE
they said that most of the jumps are still there cause a great portion of lockout was the amount of jumps that can be used to traverse quickly and sneak up on people. are you gonna be able to jump from courtyard to the top of the BR tower? jump on door frames on sniper tower? sneak around the opposite side of sniper tower on that ledge? jump from courtyard to the ramp going up to sniper spawn? i imagine that a few of these are going to be included based on what they said, but i wonder if all of these jumps are gonna be there cause i loved 'em and they made the map.

anyways this is what i have been waiting for since a few weeks after H3 came out. sooooooooooooooooo pumped for april 15th. 3 weeks left!!!

also, TEAM SNIPERS hopper is needed. TEAM SNIPERS was one of my favorite hoppers in H2. TEAM SNIPERS also needs to be up to 50 not 25. please include TEAM SNIPERS in an upcoming update. TEAM SNIPERS will no doubt be a hit.


I agree there was nothing better than TEAM SNIPERS in Halo 2 they NEED to bring it back.

  • 03.25.2008 2:21 PM PDT
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Wow, talk about mixed feelings! One the hand, I'm super excited to a remade Lockout in Halo 3; on the other, I think Bungie missed an opportunity here to diversify the options they present to players wanting to play on small maps.

I like the fact that Blackout's creation will probably increase sales of Halo 3 and the Legendary map pack more than any advertising campaign ever could. Whatever brings Bungie more sales and enables them to create more content has to be good for the average gamer. I just hope they don't obsolete Guardian or hurt the longevity of the game in the process.

  • 03.25.2008 2:21 PM PDT

Oh yes how sweet i feel like more than a day off sick is gonna happen when this comes out!!!

see you all on blackout

  • 03.25.2008 2:24 PM PDT

After 7 months of incessant whining and moaning we finally get our way! Woot woot and stuff!

Looks fantastic though. Remakes are so much better when they are true to the original like Last Resort rather than a "spiritual successor" like Guardian. This likes it will be very true to form of the original Lockout.

The night time setting looks excellent as well. Very unique and very well done.

  • 03.25.2008 2:24 PM PDT

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Am I the only one who thinks this was a waste of resources? I mean, Guardian is close enough to Lockout that I really didn't care. It was only the hardcore, 12 year old, chocolate milk drinking (just kidding on the last one) kids who were begging for this map. I mean, all my friends agreed, yes, we miss Lockout, but it's new design in Guardian is fine, and works to the mechanics of Halo 3.

I mean, we could have had a completely different map made, like, I don't know, Battle/Beaver Creek, as that isn't even slightly present in Halo 3. Or how about Wizard/Warlock, or maybe Midship. Something that wasn't done to some extent already.

i guess that 90% of halos population is 12 years old

I'll admit, Avalanche was a surprise that was welcomed, and Ghost Town looks like it'll be great, but this one is the major disappointment to me. I want something somewhat fresh. Now we'll have the twins: Guardian and Blackout... that seems like intellegent multiplayer map design.


I do agree that guardian was a close map to lockout, but if you just take a look at the fourms you will see the 100s of fans screamin for a real remake! just goes to show that bungie do listern, and for that im greatful.


Shame on you all for peer pressuring Bungie into this obviously silly idea.

  • 03.25.2008 2:25 PM PDT