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Subject: Legendary Map: Blackout
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this is why bungie has such a large fan base because they are good to there community unlike ubisoft.
thank you bungie.

  • 03.25.2008 2:25 PM PDT

I tried to sign my signature here but the pen busted off in my screen.
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Posted by: PiratesKillNinja
There is no way people wanted this more than midship

Ahhh... Yeah way! Sorry but Lockout was way better than Midship.
(My opinion = fact)

  • 03.25.2008 2:26 PM PDT
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boo lockout freaken stinks like bum. I wnated blood gulch its way cooler

  • 03.25.2008 2:28 PM PDT

Posted by: O5R1S
Wow, talk about mixed feelings! One the hand, I'm super excited to a remade Lockout in Halo 3; on the other, I think Bungie missed an opportunity here to diversify the options they present to players wanting to play on small maps.

I like the fact that Blackout's creation will probably increase sales of Halo 3 and the Legendary map pack more than any advertising campaign ever could. Whatever brings Bungie more sales and enables them to create more content has to be good for the average gamer. I just hope they don't obsolete Guardian or hurt the longevity of the game in the process.



Remakes have been a Halo staple since the beginning. Halo 2 had several remakes, Coagulation, Beaver Creek and Warlock come immediately to mind. I think it's cool that they tie the games together like that.

I will say though that they really need a faithful third iteration of Blood Gulch/Coagulation.

  • 03.25.2008 2:29 PM PDT
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Well you know i was rooting for somekind of Coagulation but you know lockout/blackout is ok too i guess.

  • 03.25.2008 2:29 PM PDT

the only people that are complaining about the new lockout are the people that suck at close combat and creativity. I really can't believe people are complaining about it since they have the two new maps there even though one is a rough remake it's still stuff. I think Bungie is doing a good job of making maps for both types of players. Course if your versital you can kill on any map.

  • 03.25.2008 2:31 PM PDT

Posted by: herky1
Eh. To be honest, I'm a little disappointed. Lockout is a great map, but since it already inspired Guardian and there are so many similarities, I was hoping the third map would be a revamp of something ELSE.

Oh well, it still looks nice.



Hehe, well there's 1 point in the dissapointed column to the 5,230,405 in the stoked column.

  • 03.25.2008 2:32 PM PDT
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Bungie Fails again.

This is not lockout.

You took everything fun out of the game. There are no more of the jumps, no more options, just single, closed minded hallways and closed perimeters for limiting vision across map.

GREAT JOB AT RUINING EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH!

it is a simple COPY and PASTE - nothing more, NOTHING NEEDED TO BE CHANGED FROM THE HALO 2 MAPS.

True halo 2 fans only find this as a disappointing failure like bungie has done time and time again.

Unbelievable. I am losing more and more hope in this pitiful excuse for a game developer every day.

  • 03.25.2008 2:32 PM PDT

I tried to sign my signature here but the pen busted off in my screen.
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Please remake "Prisoner" for the next map pack!
Not "Midship"! Symmetrical maps suck!

[Edited on 03.25.2008 2:40 PM PDT]

  • 03.25.2008 2:33 PM PDT

­"You have to aim above the head, but then a little lower so you actually get it."

-John Mayer

Only one thing struck me. ...Noes elbow to snipe tower 2hd floor off the door jump?!!1

Still looks pretty sick, can't wait for the 15th.

  • 03.25.2008 2:35 PM PDT
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ZOMG!!!! lockout back and a dark map at the same time!!!
Wow you impress me

And take a look at the jack-blam- above me
idoit,
the tacky guy lol

[Edited on 03.25.2008 2:36 PM PDT]

  • 03.25.2008 2:35 PM PDT

I tried to sign my signature here but the pen busted off in my screen.
:(

Posted by: Tacky
Bungie Fails again.

This is not lockout.

You took everything fun out of the game. There are no more of the jumps, no more options, just single, closed minded hallways and closed perimeters for limiting vision across map.

GREAT JOB AT RUINING EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH!

it is a simple COPY and PASTE - nothing more, NOTHING NEEDED TO BE CHANGED FROM THE HALO 2 MAPS.

True halo 2 fans only find this as a disappointing failure like bungie has done time and time again.

Unbelievable. I am losing more and more hope in this pitiful excuse for a game developer every day.

Did you even read the page? They even said all the jumps are still there!

  • 03.25.2008 2:36 PM PDT

Just remember... I keep it real...

Ummm... Lockout... Instant buy.

  • 03.25.2008 2:37 PM PDT

Great Map I have been waiting for this! Now if you only had a ranked Team Snipers Variant......

  • 03.25.2008 2:38 PM PDT
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oh for the love of god will they ever make a covenant map!

  • 03.25.2008 2:39 PM PDT
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ouuuuuuuuuuuuu lalaaaaaa!

  • 03.25.2008 2:39 PM PDT
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..............oh no.............i just p00ped a little............

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Posted by: Tacky
Bungie Fails again.

This is not lockout.

You took everything fun out of the game. There are no more of the jumps, no more options, just single, closed minded hallways and closed perimeters for limiting vision across map.

GREAT JOB AT RUINING EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH!

it is a simple COPY and PASTE - nothing more, NOTHING NEEDED TO BE CHANGED FROM THE HALO 2 MAPS.

True halo 2 fans only find this as a disappointing failure like bungie has done time and time again.

Unbelievable. I am losing more and more hope in this pitiful excuse for a game developer every day.



Dude calm down and go back to grade school where they teach you how to read. They used a bit of sarcasm, and then said, oh just kidding the jumps are still there.

closely looking at the pics in the gallery they look poretty spot on with lockout.

  • 03.25.2008 2:43 PM PDT

IIIIIII

Finally I've been waiting for this for so long and it's finally here! Man April 15 can't come any faster...

  • 03.25.2008 2:43 PM PDT
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Posted By: Realtreasure

I think its sad that bungie's creativity in level design has drop to the point that all folks are looking forward to, are "REMakes". Sure, Blackout looks cool but DAMN, Didnt we just leave Halo2? Bungie made Gardian, which is inspired by Lockout....shouldnt that be enough. Sidewinder/ Avalanche is welcomed in my opinion because not too many people experienced the joys of playing this on xbxconnect, Lan Parties or just 4 players on one screen. Seem like a waste of time and sad way to cash leech.


This might be a philosophical point beyond the scope of a discussion about maps, but I think it's unfair to imply that Bungie's "creativity in map design" has fallen at all, or accuse them of "cash leeching." Bungie has certainly proven time and time again they they can deliver innovative, fun multiplayer gaming experiences, and the fact that they chose to remake Lockout at this time instead of creating an entirely new map probably has more to do with their desire to meet their fans' desires (as made evident by the overwhelmingly positive sentiment this announcement has garnered among posters in this thread) than a underhanded desire to trick them into paying for something they've already bought once. Besides, whatever's good for bungie in that sense is probably good for us - if they manage to reclaim the #1 spot on the xbox live most played charts, it'll probably give them the financial and creative freedom neccessary to make more innovative maps in the future. That's MY hope, anyway.

But yeah... I definitely feel a lot of the same disappointments you do that this map isn't something more original, esp. since the majority of the time I'm playing, I'm playing with 3 other guys on splitscreen, and we're getting pretty tired of Guardian, Epitaph, and drab-looking Foundry variants. Sigh... maybe we'll get something more original in the Mythic map pack. :)

[Edit: fixed quote formatting and included quote attribution.]

[Edited on 03.25.2008 2:48 PM PDT]

  • 03.25.2008 2:45 PM PDT

Posted by: Tacky
Bungie Fails again.

This is not lockout.

You took everything fun out of the game. There are no more of the jumps, no more options, just single, closed minded hallways and closed perimeters for limiting vision across map.

GREAT JOB AT RUINING EVERYTHING YOU TOUCH!

it is a simple COPY and PASTE - nothing more, NOTHING NEEDED TO BE CHANGED FROM THE HALO 2 MAPS.

True halo 2 fans only find this as a disappointing failure like bungie has done time and time again.

Unbelievable. I am losing more and more hope in this pitiful excuse for a game developer every day.

Dude whats your problem? They can't just copy and paste the maps because Halo 3 isn't the same as Halo 2.

For example, the Needlers are way more powerful than they were in H2 so they can't just throw them around the map anymore, and basically most of the guns in H2 don't work the same as they did.

Plus there's too much new stuff to incorporate into the maps like equipment to just copy and paste, tbh I think 3 equipment on that map is overkill on a map that size since theres only 1 on Guardian. Plus theres stuff thats been taken out too like the Brute Rifles gone and I'm pretty sure that had a spawn on Lockout, what do you want them to do specifically remake the Brute Rifle just for Lockout?

And if you're problem isn't with all the above crap then it must be the difference between the Human design of Blackout and the Forerunner design of Lockout, dude grow up its the same map layout it just looks different. O LOOK I REMADE THE SAME MAP WITH BETTER GRAPHICS BUT I CHANGED THE COLOUR OF ONE BUILDING TO PINK SO I FAIL AT MAKING MAPS BECAUSE ITS SUPPOSED TO BE BLUE

And if it makes you feel any better Blackout probably won't play the same as Lockout, because Halo 2 and Halo 3 aren't the same game, Last Resort plays nothing like Zanzibar.

Peace

[Edited on 03.25.2008 2:52 PM PDT]

  • 03.25.2008 2:48 PM PDT


Posted by: Son of Posidon
the only people that are complaining about the new lockout are the people that suck at close combat and creativity. I really can't believe people are complaining about it since they have the two new maps there even though one is a rough remake it's still stuff. I think Bungie is doing a good job of making maps for both types of players. Course if your versital you can kill on any map.


The only people who complain about complainers by pointing out their shortcomings are those who couldn't make a justified arguement if Johnnie Cochran was over their shoulder.

[Edited on 03.25.2008 2:52 PM PDT]

  • 03.25.2008 2:50 PM PDT

I didn't bother searching through all of the thread, but did anyone else notice the building names: the barracks, the laboratory, and maintenance. I didn't see a name for the blue sniper tower. Do you think any of those names will stick? Or, will people just go with the previous names (i.e. the library, etc.)?

On a side note, I'm equally as excited about Ghost town...it looks great, and should be fun for 4v4.

  • 03.25.2008 2:50 PM PDT

I'm sure it plays just as well as the old lockout and it'll be great...but this is possibly the ugliest map you guys have made. Looks so dumb just sticking up out of the water like that and the angles make it look so blocky and clumsy not to mention how repetitive the colors are...Paul Russel said he wanted to get away from forunner designs because of people calling him a one trick pony or something? Stick with the forunner stuff those designs of yours are awesome, this human one is weak sauce though.

btw I thought we already had a lockout remake...

[Edited on 03.25.2008 2:57 PM PDT]

  • 03.25.2008 2:52 PM PDT