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If you play Halo 2 on Xbox Live, then you've no doubt encountered a dirty cheater at some point in the past few weeks. We received hundreds of mails per week accusing people of cheating, protesting bans from cheating and asking questions about cheating in general. To help shed some light on this problem, we've whipped up this quick FAQ to better explain what's going on.

To date, THOUSANDS of players have been banned from Xbox Live. And more are certain to follow. Read this FAQ and understand what you can do to help and what we're doing to help you.

  • 01.25.2005 2:49 PM PDT
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yay, no more confusion....or very little confusion if any

  • 01.25.2005 3:39 PM PDT
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i have witnessed severall cheaters but i really would like to know 3 things. 1. HOw do i get killed wit hone grenade with full shield? 2. and Why is it that higher levels seem to be impossible t okill because there was this one guy who i shot with dual magnums with two full clips in the head his blood is flying out of the back of his skull and he has no shield and yet he kills me with one smg. 3. Why dont contact shots with a shotgun kill? it never woks for me i will blast a guy form centimeters away and he will kill me yet again with another smg.

  • 01.25.2005 3:47 PM PDT
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How about this for standby. If any client gets the blue screen of death (connecting...), then the host should also get it no matter what. This will stop hosts from roaming around and doing what ever they want when clients are having connection problems. Its sounds easy to do, but bungie doesn't have this kind of time with all the money they have.

Halo 2's network code works great for relieving lag but it currently doesn't beat the security of halo1's synchronized network code. (halo1's network code wasn't optimized for internet play though)

How about using halo 1's network code but optimizing the packets to become smaller?
(most likely the code is built-in and cannot be replaced)

  • 01.25.2005 3:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Killtakular905
bungie duz not care bout me :'( /wrists
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Posted by: Biliruben
I'm so good at Halo, Chuck Norris has me as an avoided player.

Im still curious, what if a teammate is constantly betraying you? Which feedback option do you choose?

  • 01.25.2005 4:40 PM PDT
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Who are the Gaurdians?

  • 01.25.2005 5:04 PM PDT
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Thank you very much for the proclamation!

  • 01.25.2005 5:47 PM PDT
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but what if you but fun glitches like fleing tank glitch
I mean wouldnt it be fine if you play them on custom
games?

  • 01.25.2005 6:51 PM PDT
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not like cheat ones but fun one would that be fine?

  • 01.25.2005 6:52 PM PDT
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lol yea those are fun glitches

  • 01.25.2005 6:58 PM PDT
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WTF is up with u fukin glitchers its so -blam!- ure screwing up Xbox live every 3-4 games u have glitchers and usually they glitch bad. U move all ove rthe place and die without knowing. Bungie u need to rout those -blam!-s out and band them. X live would be better without those glitches. Some glitches are kool though but the ones that lag are -blam!- and should be banned.

  • 01.25.2005 7:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: PootyTang05
WTF is up with u fukin glitchers its so -blam!- ure screwing up Xbox live every 3-4 games u have glitchers and usually they glitch bad. U move all ove rthe place and die without knowing. Bungie u need to rout those -blam!-s out and band them. X live would be better without those glitches. Some glitches are kool though but the ones that lag are -blam!- and should be banned.


From the sounds of it, you should also get the boot if you're using language like that.

  • 01.25.2005 8:02 PM PDT
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Hey, i've got a question. Do you kick out people that MOD the game. I've seen people with dule wepons that arnt alowed in the game. I've seen a warthog witha tank turrent on the back and not the Goss Cannon.... It's fricken cool, but really cheap!

http://www.redvsblue.com/members/editImageComments.php?id=142 838
copy and paste that. To see it you need to sign up at www.redvsblue.com first, then copy and paste. They are some of my friends MOD Pictures of Halo2....NOT MINE, but his.
If bungie wants his Xbox Live gammer Tag, just ask but im not giving if out at the moment.


Thanks-Matt

  • 01.25.2005 8:14 PM PDT
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And you are sure he was using it on live? You can't use the mods on live, at leat I'm 99.9% sure. BTW, what does leaving good feedback do?

  • 01.25.2005 8:24 PM PDT
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I have witnessed in zanzibar a major cheat/glitch. While playing a clan match up by one. The other team came through the gate with a wart hog. The passanger jumped out grabbed the flag disappeard and all of a sudden flag captured. It was about a one second win. This is becoming of halo 2. I encounter cheating non stop. But, actually witnessed this one with my clan members.
Thank you,

RAJC5000

  • 01.25.2005 8:49 PM PDT
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Well bungie no offense but I think you might of banned some inncocent people for instance lets say that you are beaten by somebody and you are really mad at him that you get all ur friends to leave feed back and try and get him booted what or how do you know that you havent booted inncocent people the only 2 cheats that i have ever encountered is the dummi glitch and the stand by cheat even local x box magzines suggest that you should use the stand by cheat I just want to say that you will never for surley have banned the right people

  • 01.25.2005 9:06 PM PDT
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if Bungie is banning gamers for Online Cheating by the thousands, then why has Microsoft announced that Memberships are at an all time high?? Patch These Easy To Manipulate Glitches. We need better online sercuity protocols or programming to prevent Action Replay gamers from getting online. How about we stop advertising that Halo 2 is a good game and fix it to prolong its life, let companies like Sony and EA continously remind how great they think they are. I see cheating as cheating, weither its a flag bounce or a modem gltich, cheating is cheating and gamers need to accept it instead of covering it up. Cheating Online will be the end of online gaming as we know it.

  • 01.25.2005 9:20 PM PDT

How messy would it be if you were a Spartan, who unzipped for a pee and forgot to turn off the shielding?

Purhaps there are too many to symptoms to list, but I'm not clear on what cheating will actually look like in the game. I see wierd stuff like people disappearing and re appearing...thus avoiding an effective strafe and more often than not ending up with me out of ammo and dead. Is this what cheating looks like or is it a problem with the game or connection? Once on mid ship there was a player who was facing up against a wall, apparantly trying to run through it? I came up from behind for an assassination (one clubbing will do it) and hit him about 4 times...no effect. I was myself, killed from behind while trying to send him to the ever after. I want to give accurate feedback, but I frankly don't know what to look for. Some clear cut examples would be very helpful. Don't tell us how it's being done, just what the effect of it will be in the game.

  • 01.26.2005 1:18 AM PDT
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I hear that, in fact me and a friend were both suspended for 2 days for an unknown reason. We dont cheat and absolutely hate it when people use stand-by against us it just shows that you're a coward. Ive played against clans 2 and 3 times that stand-by and I leave feedback everytime and it seems like nothing is being done. And I get banned for nothing. I just finished a rumble pit match and every single player was lagging. Two of the players blamed me for cheating. I acctually played against one of the two players in the game before this one and nothing went wrong. He was mad cuz I was winning. I cant stand it when u beat the crap out of someone that is a higher level than u and they say you're cheating. Something needs to be done about this. I really hate it when I'm blamed for stand-bying I dont even know how to do it and think that it is the cheapest thing anyone can do.

  • 01.26.2005 2:50 AM PDT
Subject: Is It Just Me?!?!
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Is it just me or do I usually suck when it comes to a close range combat when someone has dual wield. Because everytime that happens i always lose even when i have a shotgun i still lose!!!! I even jump up and down and i still lose!!! HOW does this happen?!?!?!?!
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If you play Halo 2 on Xbox Live, then you've no doubt encountered a dirty cheater at some point in the past few weeks. We received hundreds of mails per week accusing people of cheating, protesting bans from cheating and asking questions about cheating in general. To help shed some light on this problem, we've whipped up this quick [url=/Stats/page.aspx?section=FAQInfo&subsection=cheat&am p;page=cheat]FAQ[/ url] to better explain what's going on.

To date, THOUSANDS of players have been banned from Xbox Live. And more are certain to follow. Read this FAQ and understand what you can do to help and what we're doing to help you.

  • 01.26.2005 6:36 AM PDT
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ya, i agree, glitches are no fun. it's not fun 2 just stand around doin nothing but watch someone flying around in a tank or something like that. you can't kill them. i'm in the fight for the fun.

spartan 0058- sniping everyone 1 by 1. I take you out for the fun of sniping.

  • 01.26.2005 8:12 AM PDT

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I'm so very glad this FAQ was released about what is cheating, now i can tell all those tools that dummy cheat "HAHA sniz knockers it IS cheating! and yes I did read the forums!"

I can tell you whole heartedly that my rank would be higher than a 15 on BTB if it wasn't for the standbyers and the dummy's

Thanks Bungie as this FAQ was so very needed

  • 01.26.2005 8:33 AM PDT
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I love how you guys at Bungie have finally started banning these cheaters. I still see some here and there and report them but at least the cheating has gone down in my experiences. I don't think too many innocent people have been banned. Bungie would need substanial proof of the cheating before banning a credit card from microsoft's plush bank account. Cheaters suck and banning rules, keep it up fellas.

  • 01.26.2005 8:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sniperboy
"Why dont contact shots with a shotgun kill? it never woks for me i will blast a guy form centimeters away and he will kill me yet again with another smg."

I find the same problem. I get within an inch of someone and blast them with a shotgun, but there shields don't even vanish. Then they just turn around and shoot me and I die. Its happened like, 20 times and it really pisses me off. WHYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!

  • 01.26.2005 10:34 AM PDT