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ya i guess so but it still pisses the crap out of me just to think someone has to stoop that low for them to win a game. u get wut im sayin?

  • 01.29.2005 8:40 PM PDT
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Ya while playing former friend Hard2takedown in head to head abuzive cheating some how thear where 2 of him.

  • 01.29.2005 8:59 PM PDT
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now that is wut u call a cheater. but b4 i start sayin anythin bad r u sure u saw 2 of him and it wasnt like lag or anythin and if it wasnt then be sure to send feedback. thats all i got to say.

  • 01.29.2005 9:31 PM PDT
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Well, it doesn't necessarilly mean he was cheating. A person could have joined while you were playing the game without you noticing it. That sometimes happens and people jump to conclusions. But if that's the case, just ignore it and hope you never play with him again. But if he WAS cheating, and you are one hundred percent positive, just send an email to bungie reporting him for cheating adn he will be banned for abusive standby.

  • 01.29.2005 10:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: MOETOG
I have witnessed in zanzibar a major cheat/glitch. While playing a clan match up by one. The other team came through the gate with a wart hog. The passanger jumped out grabbed the flag disappeard and all of a sudden flag captured. It was about a one second win. This is becoming of halo 2. I encounter cheating non stop. But, actually witnessed this one with my clan members.
Thank you,

RAJC5000

Yeah, I've witnessed the same thing while playing with this one clan, | 117 |, I believe. They dummied someone on their team and I even blew up the warthog with the rocks and they still managed to jump the flag like that. If you ask me, cheaters like that who have no honor and respect should just be banned...and then their XBox should randomly explode.

  • 01.30.2005 12:22 AM PDT
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you cant do that becaue the dummy glitch just makes the guy invisible and thats it we already tryied it in a custom game and i can see how they do it they have to kill the persons body out of the warthog so that the invisible 1 will die too but you cant kill the invisible 1 but more than likeley if there is only 1 person in the warthog it means they might b doing it we had it happen to us yesterday

  • 01.30.2005 6:59 AM PDT
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sometimes frag grenades get right under you and kill you I have done that to a few people. it might have ben the inviseable copy cheat or it was a very glitchy game. some shotgun shots look dead on but some of the bullets missand they kill you pretty dam fast

  • 01.30.2005 7:15 AM PDT
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That was awfully smart of you to admit to cheating/glitching, Susylou22. You'd be lucky if Bungie didn't ban your account today.

  • 01.30.2005 7:19 AM PDT
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i think cheating is pointless because you only beat people by useing stand by and i seen people get caught cheating and got suspended but they didn't do it there friends did so i think they need to find a better way to get people to stop cheating.

  • 01.30.2005 8:11 AM PDT
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That happend to me too a couple of times, I'm trying to tell these guys that I dont even know HOW to cheat and it must've been people on my optimatch team. Of course they didnt believe me. I think bungie should have a meter on where your positive and negitive feedback like how ebay does it.

  • 01.30.2005 8:59 AM PDT
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do u know if flag tossing through the roof is considered cheating

  • 01.30.2005 10:27 AM PDT
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you are completely right valkayree i made a post about the same thing on the third page hoping id get bungie to reply, and AMERICANSNIPER i dont think you cheated, and im sad to hear u cant play xbxlve any more :( hopefully this gets somewhere.

P.S. i was playing with a guy name M hom i think it is on ivory tower , me my friend inuvash, and i think door kicker x in my party. M hom was not in my party. we were red, so they go first , they score the first time in sudden death, then we score very fast due to no defense then they score again just barely again and then we get the flag out by the shotgun on the bottom floor and then i respawn back by under our base and i look and m hom is just standing there and i hear flag taken, flag captured and i realized he Sb'ed and he left before i could say anything to him and we got reported because of his stupidness cuz we would have scored anyways and won cuz we were red. I would just like to thank you m hom for getting me reported

  • 01.30.2005 10:55 AM PDT
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Im glad that Bungie is attempting to take care of the cheating problem. I just wish they would put more into it, mabye they are doing all they can but so far i still experence cheating atleast once a day i hope you guys go through the feedback but then again some people just put things because they lost...

  • 01.30.2005 11:41 AM PDT
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Bungie is doing there best and if you think you can to better, try it. Good for you Bungie keep up the good work. And i've had uber problems with cheaters to, i'd of won alot more games if all of the guys on my team didn't just mysteriously get stuck running into walls that we couldn't get away from, while some standbyer beat me over the head and took my flag. I've also thrown plasma grenades right at a persons chest and watched it go straight through him, same with rockets, and sword lunging, as the guy plowed me down with a shotgun that he didn't have before, cus he had a magnum on one slot, and a smg on the other, all in foundation mind you. I've also been sniped through walls and sword lunged through a solid wall as my flag actually disapeared and was instantly captured. We've all been cheated multiple times guys, but your no better than them when you start blameing Bungie!. Keep it up Bungie im rootin for the home team.

  • 01.30.2005 11:42 AM PDT
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I fought my first cheater a while ago and a guy who used standby and assasinated all of our team so we ran around and spun around so he cant get us but he still did. My team slayer stats wont come up on the website, and bungie should watch people who have names like "born to glitch"

  • 01.30.2005 11:53 AM PDT
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okay u know the clan pokemon is tops like 2 in the world well.... my clan faced up with them in major look at it my clans name is xxl pwnzone lxx they scored all three times on coag w/ wraiths in 1 minn. and 34 seconds... a bit unbelievable huh. they should be banned

  • 01.30.2005 12:56 PM PDT
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If these evil people are banned, what's to stop them opening a new live account and further making our lives a misery? I know it will cost them more money but some people are just stupid!!

  • 01.30.2005 3:14 PM PDT
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They might of just been really good, dude.

  • 01.30.2005 5:03 PM PDT
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How come in the leader boards the guy in first place has less wins then the guy in a lower place.

  • 01.30.2005 5:35 PM PDT
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Will somebody please tell me, what is the dummy glitch, and... who the hell are the guardians?!

  • 01.30.2005 6:32 PM PDT
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This has also been a deep concern of mine. But, in most cases, a lot of people know that the higher level people get, the more their ego swells and they become walking breathing -blam!-s to everyone in their vector. What this has to do with cheating means nothing, but their are of course anomolies in the actual x-box live system, and maybe its cheating, but you might of encountered something like you killing somebody, and you know very well that you should've died, and the only way you didn't was because the gods of halo had shined upon you. You have to realize that getting x-box live up and running and configuring a way to get players from all around the country together on one map to play one game takes a suicidal amount of work, so dont be so hard on Bungie, they're my heroes, thanks bungie...

The monkey,

  • 01.30.2005 7:27 PM PDT
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By the way, who the hell are the gaurdians, they suck man.

The monkey,

  • 01.30.2005 7:29 PM PDT
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Bah leave the cheaters I love playing a lvl 20+ that doesn't know his ass from his elbow.. DAMMIT!!

  • 01.30.2005 8:40 PM PDT
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i hate cheaters

  • 01.31.2005 12:21 AM PDT
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Here is something I wrote to Frankie which I think Bungie should also read.

You should also update it about the rest of a clan will be banned also if a member cheats. I’m not sure how much you know the Bungie team but they seriously need to fix THEIR games problems, I talked to the Xbox Live support today since I was banned and wasn’t online for two days and was a bit confused as to why I was banned, in a nutshell I got banned because someone I was playing with was cheating.

So I gave them a few suggestions that I think and hope they should implement as a part of the feedback which would require the person providing feedback to either voice record what happened in detail or to write them a response if they do not have a voice recorder. They said they know that their feedback system is crude right now and is also resulting in a lot of people being banned for no grounds, another thing that he told me as to why they would make it to were someone who was giving feedback was to provide proof of you cheating or violating the rules, was because of those few that are sore losers who send you negative feedback.

Something Bungie should get on that was made even more clear to me after talking to the Xbox Live Supervisor that there is a very poor lack of any evidence that they have, they are going on what others give and I really haven’t seen any side Bungie nor Microsoft looking into that much to get to the root of the problem which is only the individuals who are cheating and not the people who are in their party that is unfair for them to be banned for something that a person in their party did.

Another thing Bungie needs to do is stop being lazy about the bugs in their game, it is their responsibility to fix it glitches are used a lot in the games, coming out and saying that it is a cheat to do the dummy glitch is total BS, it is there game fix it patch it don’t tell Microsoft nor the consumer "No I’m not patching it." It is your problem not the peoples who are playing the game, but your lack of fixing those bugs is making it our the consumers problem. If you’re not going to fix it and it is clear that dummying is a glitch in the programming of your game its not a cheat since no one is using any outside gaming devices to enable it.

I have seen it done and I couldn’t do it to save my life cause I think its to hard to do and I don’t have the patients for it, seriously fix your problems that you left in the programming of your game that your Beta Testers missed.

Another thing about flag grabbing I have to complain about those who are online who think that that is a cheat another reason that I may have been banned because my team took the flag through the wall right from them, which is why some proof would be needed to have to send a negative feedback about cheating. I even explained to them it is not a cheat go read it for yourself on Bungie.net, well to late for that now they already sent there feedback that we cheated for using something that Bungie has even stated that is not a cheat, I say to Bungie and to Live, you both get in a room and fix these problems like I suggested on the phone to the Supervisor here is the ticket number #185 357 789. You say you want a better Live community well better start listening to the complaints from those who were banned for just being in the same game with someone who cheated.

I don’t know about you but I would be as I am now rather pissed to come on Live after not being on for a couple days finding out I was banned and not knowing why and knowing I did nothing wrong, and finding out that there ISNT any evidence that Bungie nor Xbox Live have against people very unfair, especially after being led to believe that Bungie has such evidence as they claim they have that they are "Using a variety of tools and reports we are able to confidently stand behind the actions we take to create a stronger Live community." From what the Xbox Live person said it is clearly evident that they do not have such evidence so there is a much needed improvement on the feedback system to support a better Live community.

Sincerely, G0UKEN

  • 01.31.2005 4:51 AM PDT